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Oldest biped skeleton discovered - new evolution record, 1.2 millions added in one day
http://cooltech.iafrica.com/science/421933.htm ^ | Mon, 07 Mar 2005

Posted on 03/07/2005 3:19:42 PM PST by Truth666

A joint Ethiopian-US team of palaeontologists announced on Saturday they had discovered the world's oldest biped skeleton to be unearthed so far, dating it to between 3.8 and four million years old.

"This is the world's oldest biped," Bruce Latimer, director of the natural history museum in Cleveland, Ohio, told a news conference in the Ethiopian capital, adding that "it will revolutionise the way we see human evolution".

The bones were found three weeks ago in Ethiopia's Afar region, at a site some 60 kilometres from Hadar where Lucy, one of the first hominids, was discovered in 1974. Researchers at the site in northeast Ethiopia have in all unearthed 12 hominid fossils, of which parts of one skeleton were discovered.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: evolution; fauxiantroll; fauxiantrolls; youngearthdelusion; youngearthdelusions
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To: metacognative
...darwinites will treat you like the church treated heretics. Maybe a concentration camp is preferable to burning at the stake.

...what do you think of the name calling intolerant darwin zealots who want to put christians in zoos and teach their children atheism?

So, you refuse to retract these statements and instead stand behind them?

301 posted on 03/09/2005 11:26:28 AM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

I follow the evidence...not a gaggle of government funded establishment religion biology professors who pretend to believe the impossible. I stand for real science, not bought and paid for science.


302 posted on 03/09/2005 11:29:25 AM PST by metacognative (eschew obfuscation)
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To: D Edmund Joaquin
It started out being about the lies that evolutionists tell.

And in the course of "discussions", there was no honest attempt to document these "lies", other than by telling lies.

I'm just trying to guage where you stand in the debate. Do you support lying to make the anti-science case or no?

303 posted on 03/09/2005 11:33:20 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: DannyTN
This crevo thinks even in a fallen state the Designer's design is pretty cool.

God's Creation's is pretty cool.

I'm not big on the designer thing though.

304 posted on 03/09/2005 11:36:01 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: D Edmund Joaquin

Thank you mayor. I recognized the dennett doctrine when I saw it. "We will raise your children." Kind of like Hillary's village.


305 posted on 03/09/2005 11:37:10 AM PST by metacognative (eschew obfuscation)
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To: shubi
Your statement is so confused, it shows a complete lack of understanding of the biological process of evolution. Go to Patrick Henry's list of links and study a bit.

How about you just answer the question? I have come with humility and recognition that I am no subject matter expert.

So perhaps I must repeat myself yet again: While I don't doubt for a second that God created the universe, I don't preclude the possibility that evolution is the means God chose do advance life on earth.

If you have such an intimate working knowledge of evolution and "how it really works", it shouldn't be hard for you to give me fairly succinct answers to the questions I raised. Yet all I get from you and others is a refusal to answer me in the form of condescension and insults about how confused my statements are.

To know is to define. If it is that difficult for you to lay it out fairly simply in a way that even a moron like me can understand, then can you be sure that I am the one who is confused?

306 posted on 03/09/2005 11:37:31 AM PST by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: metacognative
I stand for real science, not bought and paid for science.

Anti-evolutionism is a multi-billion dollar business. You're still not picking a side.

307 posted on 03/09/2005 11:37:55 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Zhangliqun

This reminds of Philip Johnson's point; if the materialist/naturalists believe their brains are just moleclules in motion...their thoughts are mindless.


308 posted on 03/09/2005 11:42:13 AM PST by metacognative (eschew obfuscation)
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To: mysterio
An animal is often repulsed by something dead, but it has no realization that it will die as well. We are the only species that understands this much of our own fate. And it is because of our more well developed intellect that we realize this. Thus, the "apple" from the "tree of knowledge" introduced "death" into the Garden of Eden.

They are also often attracted to something dead because they want to eat it.

True, animals are not able to reflect on death and non-existence the way we do. But they know enough of death to fear it and avoid it when they "smell" death. Such unpleasant feelings (fear, terror, anxiety) by definition cannot be present in paradise.

309 posted on 03/09/2005 11:43:46 AM PST by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: metacognative
I follow the evidence...not a gaggle of government funded establishment religion biology professors who pretend to believe the impossible. I stand for real science, not bought and paid for science.

I know nothing of this "gaggle" so I can't pretend to enter the debate about their merits and motivations. BUT...

Unless you're talking about an independently wealthy scientist funding everything with his own money, isn't all science "bought and paid for"?

310 posted on 03/09/2005 11:47:17 AM PST by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Why do I have to pick a side? I want a coherent worldview of my own. Not someone else's dogma


311 posted on 03/09/2005 11:47:54 AM PST by metacognative (eschew obfuscation)
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To: Zhangliqun

Are you unaware of the discrimination, derision and destruction vented upon the vilified independent thinkers on this issue. The Constitution forbad establishment of religion...but we have one in the form of old fashioned darwinism-atheism.


312 posted on 03/09/2005 11:51:24 AM PST by metacognative (eschew obfuscation)
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To: Long Cut
I'm done with you.

There was a time not too long ago when Freepers were happy to have the state of Utah in the Bush column.

313 posted on 03/09/2005 11:51:33 AM PST by js1138
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To: metacognative
Why do I have to pick a side? I want a coherent worldview of my own. Not someone else's dogma.

Agreed.

So what is your world view? Inquiring minds want to know.

314 posted on 03/09/2005 11:53:08 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

...and that makes me wonder if the darwinites have retreated from the theory that started this thread yet..


315 posted on 03/09/2005 11:54:07 AM PST by metacognative (eschew obfuscation)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Are you still posting to a freeper too dumb to spell his own name?


316 posted on 03/09/2005 11:58:17 AM PST by js1138
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To: metacognative
...and that makes me wonder if the darwinites have retreated from the theory that started this thread yet..

Actually this thread started with a poorly written news release and a claim that has yet to be substantiated in any scientific way.

It's obvious that you're in the anti-evolutionist camp from your posts. C'mon. Give it up now. Where do you stand on this controversy? ;)

317 posted on 03/09/2005 11:59:10 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: js1138

I wish I was an arrogant smart-ass darwinite who knew how to spell other peoples names better than they do.


318 posted on 03/09/2005 12:00:23 PM PST by metacognative (eschew obfuscation)
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To: js1138
Now now. My 12-year-old is working with me on my use of emoticons so that I can convey more of my meaning without coming off sounding like I'm being sarcastic.

I could have her e-mail some stuff to you. ;)

319 posted on 03/09/2005 12:02:58 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

I'm not anti-evolution. I just don't believe it can do magic. And...here's something to jump on; I get younger earther all the time


320 posted on 03/09/2005 12:03:02 PM PST by metacognative (eschew obfuscation)
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