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Should children be allowed to work in sawmills
Creators ^ | MARCH 2, 2005 | John Stossel

Posted on 03/05/2005 1:17:09 PM PST by flixxx

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I worked my butt off a a kid on my father's farm...you learn how to balance work, school, sports and fun...
1 posted on 03/05/2005 1:17:09 PM PST by flixxx
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To: flixxx

Kids should be allowed to work in sawmills. It build character and teaches them to pay attention.

- Johnny "Stumpy" Harrison


2 posted on 03/05/2005 1:28:48 PM PST by Mike Darancette (MESOCONS FOR RICE '08)
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To: flixxx; mikrofon; Charles Henrickson
Should children be allowed to work in sawmills

Of course.

They're little shavers.

3 posted on 03/05/2005 1:32:56 PM PST by martin_fierro (I wood say that.)
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To: Mike Darancette
- Johnny "Stumpy" Harrison

hilarious. That is too funny.

4 posted on 03/05/2005 1:35:12 PM PST by sockmonkey
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To: flixxx

Well if we rid ourselves of child labor laws then maybe wal-mart will build a few factories here.


5 posted on 03/05/2005 1:39:22 PM PST by jpsb
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To: flixxx
I worked my butt off a a kid on my father's farm.

I'll be damned before I ever haul hay again.
They have machines for it now, but BACK IN THE DAY... ;-)

6 posted on 03/05/2005 1:39:59 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: Mike Darancette

LOL


A sawmill is a dangerous place no matter how old you are. I worked in a sawmill for a few years and had some close calls and I paid attention. I caught a 6 inch diameter log across the chest once.


I was working near a big industrial sized wood chipper when a log got to the chipper blades, caught and slammed against the shroud and busted off. I looked up just in time to see it spinning across the room at me and I jerked my head out of the way. It caught me across my chest and broke 4 ribs and cracked my sternum. I wore the flak jacket they provided after that.


7 posted on 03/05/2005 1:41:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: flixxx
If a young man or woman works to buy something they want a car etc.

They will drive the car with care because they do not want to hot rod it or wreck it because it is their responsibility.

It is a shame that younger children are not allowed to work as it will help them become adults.

Most children I know lay around watching TV or playing games on a computer.

They have a lot of money, which they don't earn and are not allowed to grow up.
8 posted on 03/05/2005 1:49:15 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5% of the time!)
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To: cripplecreek

The title of the article caught my attention. My brothers and I grew up in a logging/sawmill family. We owned the only sawmill that provided lumber for 100 miles and logged all our own timber. No one ever lost a finger, hand, foot, arm or had any other accident. My father "taught" safety to us. What a concept.... parents actually being allowed to be parents. The age of introduction to the mill was 9. We started shoveling shavings and sawdust out from under the machinery. By the time we were 12, we were full time loggers and mill workers. Every one of us has gone on to win performance awards in highly-skilled positions of life.


9 posted on 03/05/2005 1:49:41 PM PST by Integrityrocks
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Integrity does rock doesn't it?


10 posted on 03/05/2005 1:51:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: cripplecreek

Nothing better!


11 posted on 03/05/2005 1:52:35 PM PST by Integrityrocks
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When I was twelve my family bought a pathetic, broken down country store in the middle of nowhere. I pumped gasoline and sliced lunch meat on an electric slicer and cut cheese with a big sharp knife. Yeah, it helped build character but there is no way I would have let my daughter near that electric slicer when she was twelve. Makes me shudder when I think of it now. Kids are kids and they don't have the body strength or maturity that is sometimes needed.


12 posted on 03/05/2005 2:05:54 PM PST by hardworking (-O-U)
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The broader question is, are our national child labor laws benevolent or destructive?

I don't think we want to see little kids working in sweat shops 18 hours a day. But the idea that kids can't work at all is crazy. Why is it better to hang around getting into trouble than doing a few hours honest work every day?

Most of my kids have worked when they got old enough, and it has always been a positive experience for them. Play time is important too, but after kids pass a certain age they need to have something to do and some sense of what it means to earn your own money.


13 posted on 03/05/2005 2:06:32 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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broke 4 ribs and cracked my sternum.

Ouch...I've had ribs broken before, but only one at a time - and it was hard to get a good breath with just that.

14 posted on 03/05/2005 2:12:05 PM PST by ErnBatavia (ErnBatavia, Boxer, Pelosi, Thomas...the ultimate nightmare Menage a Quatro)
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To: Cicero; forester; Carry_Okie; farmfriend; eldoradude
Who in the heck has any sawmills for kids to work in anymore??? CA has had nearly 95% of it's mills closed over the last decade!!!

Now that we have Schwarzenegger's stupid Sierra-Nevada CONservancy, we'll soon have the remaing private timberland shut down an the remaining 5% of mills, with it!!!

Then the kids can't even play in the sawdust piles on weekends!!!

15 posted on 03/05/2005 2:12:13 PM PST by SierraWasp (The Dems have lost whatever "redeeming social value" they ever had!!! Just ask Zell...)
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To: ErnBatavia

I was lucky it caught me broadside and not on the pointy end. I assume it's kinda like having Sammy Sousa or A-rod taking a home running swing at you. It wiped me off my feet.


16 posted on 03/05/2005 2:19:44 PM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
"They will drive the car with care because they do not want to hot rod it or wreck it because it is their responsibility."

That is absolutely true.

I would not buy insurance for my sons when they became old enough to get a driver's license.

So prior to the age of 16, they were working at restaurants, hobby shops, and golf courses to make the $1000 a year they would need for insurance.

When they had a collison or speeding ticket, they had to pay the increase premium.

One son could not keep up with his rising payments so he had to quit driving.

His car is sitting in my driveway right this very moment.

17 posted on 03/05/2005 2:37:09 PM PST by tahiti
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To: flixxx

I have always thought that in eighth grade one should have the option of ending and go on to work. There are a lot of children who neeed to get on with their lives and will work and perhaps eventually go to night school/


18 posted on 03/05/2005 2:38:37 PM PST by mlmr (The "Naked and the Fred"....is back!)
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To: hardworking
>When I was twelve my family bought a pathetic, broken down country store in the middle of nowhere. I pumped gasoline and sliced lunch meat on an electric slicer and cut cheese with a big sharp knife

My little sister
used to honk the local moose.
Until it bit her!

19 posted on 03/05/2005 2:41:41 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Cicero
"The broader question is, are our national child labor laws benevolent or destructive?"

I think the "broader question" is are national child labor laws constitutional?

For the sake of argument, I will acknowledge, reluctantly, that Congress has jurisdiction and power for such a federal law emanating from the "commerce clause" (when did a "foreign nation," or "one of the several states" or "Indian tribes" become a private business?), but such power has to respect the Bill of Rights.

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others (rights) retained by the people.

Is not the decision as to whether children work or not a right "retained by the people," or their parent(s)?

20 posted on 03/05/2005 2:42:53 PM PST by tahiti
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