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1 posted on 03/05/2005 7:49:14 AM PST by Pendragon_6
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"When you have a tax, where you pay the same tax whether you're wealthy or you're poor," Rangel said, "that's not fair."

Since the rich consume more than the poor it would hardly be the same tax. Only the percentage would be the same not the end result. Rangel has to know this.

2 posted on 03/05/2005 7:51:48 AM PST by KJacob (If I yawn it is only in anticipation.)
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Oh Charlie, do tell us what is "Fair" then?

Let me guess...


3 posted on 03/05/2005 7:51:48 AM PST by Barney59 (Now there's a man with an open mind - you can feel the breeze from here!)
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And in other news Rangel responded up was really down, hot was cold and light was just a shade of dark.


4 posted on 03/05/2005 7:52:41 AM PST by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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Congressman Charlie go cleanup your neighborhood and leave the thinking to people who are not racist.
5 posted on 03/05/2005 7:53:36 AM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods.)
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Redistribution of wealth is the basis of SOCIALISM!!!!
There are no Democrats in our country. They are Socialists.
They say the exact same things that the openly Card Carrying Socialists of Europe say. When will they have the gonads to admit what they are.
The Democrats are nothing more than the American Socialist Party.
6 posted on 03/05/2005 7:55:33 AM PST by oldenuff2no (Proud Nam Vet)
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Congressman Charles Rangel: Equal Taxation 'Not Fair'

Well, he's a socialist. What else would he say?

8 posted on 03/05/2005 7:58:33 AM PST by texasbluebell
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Charlie: Did you know I served in Korea? Well I did. Couple Korea with the fact I am black and metally challenged (Liberalism is a Mental Disease). I can say any stupid thing entering my mind and you can't even attempt to correct me.


9 posted on 03/05/2005 8:00:29 AM PST by hflynn
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One of the very best politician put downs I ever heard came from Rush Limbaugh, concerning Dick Gephardt. He said "He's (Gephardt) a small man from a small state, with a limited understanding of economics". OUCH!!!

Rangel is the same, only a large man from a large state.

10 posted on 03/05/2005 8:05:03 AM PST by Hardastarboard
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Rangel's just being his knee-jerk leftist self. Other conservative pundits have suggested pinning down liberals in debate about taxes. It's all about getting them to admit that to a lib the primary purpose of taxation is not to gather revenue for the functioning of government but to punish people who make a lot of money. Rangel is one of those safe-seat dems who have been doing the manure-throwing recently. Greenspan did not say what everyone does not already know but have been afraid to, or would rather die than, state openly. But the dems are still shooting themselves by attacking him.

I would still go with a flat-tax, however. It has a long, successful track record: from Hong Kong beginning in the fifties to all the former Eastern European and former Soviet vassal states (including Russia itself) over the past decade, we know it works. A consumption tax is too untried and too easy to simply add on to the existing system.


12 posted on 03/05/2005 8:07:06 AM PST by sinanju
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"A simpler tax code would reduce the considerable resources devoted to complying with current tax laws," Greenspan said, "and the freed-up resources could be used for more productive purposes."

IMO this is one of the most powerful arguments for revamping the Code. The amount of time, effort and real resources spent by individuals and Corporations in their efforts to comply with the tenets of this monstrosity are incalculable but enormous.

Add to this the distortions engendered by the 'Favored' actions dictated by the Gov't, influenced by Lobbyists and reinforced by the Code and it seems very clear that the current system is a serious impediment to growth and proper market function.

13 posted on 03/05/2005 8:10:48 AM PST by drt1
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Rangle wrangling with the demise of socialism.


14 posted on 03/05/2005 8:14:24 AM PST by Principled
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This guy is such a transparent moron! But, everytime he opens his yap he aids the Republicans, so I guess I'll just add him to the pile of "useful idiots."


16 posted on 03/05/2005 8:24:10 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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Does anyone honestly think our high roller politicians look out for the little people first. I don't think there is much chance of a "flat tax" ever passing because of the powerfuls need for greed. "I made my money the hard way" they will say, so I deserve to keep it. Do our politicians of today really look out what is best for us or for them?.


20 posted on 03/05/2005 8:28:03 AM PST by JamesA ( The more you try to change my convictions the more resolved I am to keep them.)
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A consumption tax is a HORRIBLE idea. It will slow down retail and other businesses tremendously and possily cause a black market.

A FLAT income tax is the ONLY way to go.

22 posted on 03/05/2005 8:30:28 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Is there absolutely any doubt that the Democrats are devoid of any new ideas? All they do is attack anything proposed by the Republicans. It's why we are steadily becoming the overwhelming party in power.


25 posted on 03/05/2005 8:33:20 AM PST by Casloy
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But there can be no denying the real problem politicos have with a simplified tax system. They will lose the ability to write special favors for their cronies and supporters into the tax code. That, and social engineering schemes. That is why it grows by scores of pages every year. To abandon the old system is to give up power. And clinging to that power is as bipartisan an issue as ever there was.


26 posted on 03/05/2005 8:33:27 AM PST by sinanju
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Somebody send the Commie Rangel to Cuba...In a circus cannon.


27 posted on 03/05/2005 8:34:10 AM PST by Liberator
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"When you have a tax, where you pay the same tax whether you're wealthy or you're poor," Rangel said, "that's not fair."

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30 posted on 03/05/2005 8:40:02 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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ping for later


31 posted on 03/05/2005 8:40:45 AM PST by llevrok (Don't blame me! I voted for Pedro.)
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When I read the headline, I thought at first it would be an item from Scrappleface.


39 posted on 03/05/2005 8:57:39 AM PST by Joann37
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