Posted on 03/04/2005 1:36:56 PM PST by Eurotwit
AFP US President Bush has pursued his agenda of gun-boat democracy with single-mindedness.
The Buchenwald concentration camp after its liberation by the US army. Democracy was brought to Germany at the tip of the sword.
REUTERS Lebanese took to the streets in thousands earlier this week. A sign of things to come?
Good article. But mistreating enemy combatants that do not fall under any conventions, Geneva or otherwise, does no make for a "war crime". Nor does a small group of soldiers going beyond the rules of warfare taint the enterprise.
The United States itself is a democratic republic born of violence... based on principles of individual rights (Magna Carta, Glorious Revolution) carried from Britain that were rights won through violence...
Another recent one from Der Speigel:
Could George W. Bush Be Right?
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,343378,00.html
"Democracy being born out of violence"
It appears that democracy is almost always born out of violence. That doesn't make it a bad thing.
There seems to be no mention of the literally thousands of innocent American citizens who have been murdered, beheaded, tortured, or just plain executed by the Muslim world over the past ten years.
A pox on Old Europe and its self centered, self destructive socialism.
To these people, war is a war crime.
The fact is no other army on earth would have performed better ethically than the US army in Iraq. None.
I'm not going to be lectured about war crimes by any German of any age.
Nor I, Eric.
The hand-wringing makes me sick. And the suggestion that mistakes made by Generals 60 years ago, or the pranks of Abu-Ghraib are the equivalent of tyrranical atrocities of Saddam and Hitler aren't even good nonsense.
I'm flabbergasted by an article like this coming out of an important German paper. What kind of paper is Der Spiegel, and what kind of Germans read it?
"Infected with the virus of democracy." I like it!!
Virus of Democracy?
This german magazine is really socialist.
These germans would prefer the impotence of Jimmy Carter or the incompetence of Bill Clinton.
This same article could substitue Reagan for Bush and not be any different.
It also ASSUMES war crimes by the USA. Very Goebles by bootstrapping the propaganda upon falsehood. Goebles lives in germany again.
When you "walk the walk" those that always "talk the talk" just can't stand to admit they could possibly could be wrong without quantify and qualify your success. Have heart, maybe if this is the beginning of a big shift in opinion in Germany. They may actually start to help us in Iraq. Irag and the US could use some "good" payback from the Germans.
Sadly, violence has spread religion, freedom, and communism. it appears that violence is a tool and can be used for good and for evil. (And my wife says I am always stating the obvious.)
gee, breaking the chains of oppression by kicking the posterior of evil.
Assumes violence is always bad. Written by a person who opposes the death penalty.
If the Germans and the French are any example, we will know that we have really succeeded in bringing freedom to Iraq when 40 or 50 years from now the Iraqi's no longer appreciate what we did for them.
It's hard for the Germans to understand trying to help the oppressed people of the world because it's the right thing to do rather than trying to conquer the world which is their track record.
'205th brigade of the military secret service'
The author just can't admit that Iraq was a all-around good deal for humanity.
Even when they are re-assessing the War in Iraq, this column succeeds in taking a few swipes at the US. Oh well, I suppose we should be glad they've come this far...
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