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Wal-Mart plans 10 new stores in China
MSNBC News ^ | November 2, 2004 | Reuters

Posted on 03/04/2005 12:10:26 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot

Wal-Mart plans 10 new stores in China Firm aims to profit from new rules for foreign retailers

Updated: 11:51 a.m. ET Nov. 2, 2004BEIJING -

The world’s biggest retailer, Wal-Mart Stores Inc., said it planned at least 10 new stores in China next year, joining other foreign retail giants in taking advantage of new rules letting them move into smaller cities.

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Last year, it sourced $15 billion worth of goods in low-cost China, from bicycles to fish. Scott said Chinese products made up about 80 percent of imports sold by Wal-Mart at its more than 3,200 U.S. outlets.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: china; dothemath; walmart; walmarthell
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To: teletech

All the China Wally-world stores should sell stuff made in Taiwan. ;)


61 posted on 03/04/2005 1:20:04 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: jpsb
You are tooooo much, just because the supplier in an American company does not mean the goods are produced in the USA.

The source says 50%-50%. Please, by all means, prove me wrong.

But use a real source, not your lame "I saw it with my own eyes, everything in WalMart is from China"

That's so 4th grade.

62 posted on 03/04/2005 1:21:05 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: discostu

He(?) gets cranky when you point out his math and comprehension shortfalls.


63 posted on 03/04/2005 1:22:25 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I noticed, the funny part is I fully expected a similar response. It's sort of a universal formula on FR, anyone that starts by saying you're lying, then lies themselves and insults you is sure to complain that you're mean in their next post. It's so predictable I almost think that breed of poster are actually web-bots, it's not their fault they're just coded wrong.


64 posted on 03/04/2005 1:24:44 PM PST by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: discostu
Why are these protectionists so bad at math? These aren't my numbers, and I'm surprised they were so small, but 7.5% is 7.5%.

Next year it will be higher, maybe 9%. Still a long way from most (50.1%) or all (100%), but that's just my Catholic school math talking.

I keep forgetting how publik skool math works. LOL!

65 posted on 03/04/2005 1:28:49 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Todd, I think the issue is with the language of their information (calm down...I'm not accusing you of not knowing how to read :-)). As I read it, they mean 1/2 were purchases from companies making goods specifically to WalMart's specs, sort of like an OEM manufacturer, while the other half from companies selling them general merchandise that was already being made for others. Basically I mean half made to order and half bought off the shelf so to speak. In my case (A Japanese company with distributors in the U.S. and Canada) we wouldn't fall under either category even though the specific goods we sell WalMart are made in China.


66 posted on 03/04/2005 1:29:00 PM PST by mitchbert (Paul Martin is a Spineless Ditherer. That's a Fact. And Facts Are Stubborn Things .)
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To: G.Mason

I work in Lyndhurst - that's pretty close to Bloomfield. I live up near Mahwah.


67 posted on 03/04/2005 1:29:37 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

It's all about the sacred cows, I like to challenge them to compare WalMart's stock to their competitors, Wally and Target and KMart have like 90% brand consistency so those offensive Chinese goods you find in one will probably be in the others (and in Penneys and Robinsons May and other stores that compete in those product areas). But they just don't dig on that. Never challenge a sacred cow.


68 posted on 03/04/2005 1:32:09 PM PST by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Why are these protectionists so bad at math?

$600,000,000,000.00 trade deficit in 2004. Now you do the math. And I am very very good at math, and the first thing one does then working with numbers is get the right numbers. Your are bogus numbers as has been pointed out to you by numberious posters. It is so 2cd grade to use bogus numbers.

69 posted on 03/04/2005 1:33:11 PM PST by jpsb
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To: ican'tbelieveit
I am with you on this, discostu. I have heard the lame argument that you can't buy American made at Walmart. So, my son and I went thru everything in our house that we regularly bought at Walmart. I know in my bathroom alone, out of all of the products in there, I only found 1 or 2 products that were not made in the US.

It's all labor union propaganda. They hate the wal-mart.
70 posted on 03/04/2005 1:35:00 PM PST by Righty_McRight ("Rescue those being led away to death; hold back those staggering toward slaughter" Proverbs 24:11)
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To: mitchbert
In my case (A Japanese company with distributors in the U.S. and Canada) we wouldn't fall under either category even though the specific goods we sell WalMart are made in China.

That depends. If they buy the goods from the Canadian or US distributors then you might be correct.

If they buy them from your plant in China, then I am correct. Either way, they don't sell 100% Chinese goods.

According to walmartfacts.com they bought $137.5 billion from US companies. Is zero of that sourced from Chinese companies? I don't know. But I'm open to new sources (linked of course) unlike some dingbats around here.

71 posted on 03/04/2005 1:35:23 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
So, does this mean that Walmart is going to water down China's economy with cheap products manufactured in sweat shops in Somalia?
72 posted on 03/04/2005 1:35:23 PM PST by Conservative Infidel
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To: jpsb

And only 3% of that is WalMart (and that's if you assume ALL WalMart imports are part of the trade deficit and completely ignore all the exports WalMart is responsible for by having stores in other countries), so why do you have it so bad against WalMart? Take Wally out of the picture and the trade deficit is still $581,250,000,000.00 at best.


73 posted on 03/04/2005 1:37:17 PM PST by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: jpsb
$600,000,000,000.00 trade deficit in 2004. Now you do the math.

I don't disagree with your number here. Now didn't that source say $15 billion was from WalMart?

Your are bogus numbers as has been pointed out to you by numberious posters. It is so 2cd grade to use bogus numbers.

Which of my numbers was bogus? The $15 billion WalMart bought from China? Or was it the $198.747 billion they bought total?

74 posted on 03/04/2005 1:38:33 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: miliantnutcase
All the China Wally-world stores should sell stuff made in Taiwan. ;)
Sink a Chinese ship, buy Taiwan!
75 posted on 03/04/2005 1:40:14 PM PST by Righty_McRight ("Rescue those being led away to death; hold back those staggering toward slaughter" Proverbs 24:11)
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To: Conservative Infidel
So, does this mean that Walmart is going to water down China's economy with cheap products manufactured in sweat shops in Somalia?

That'll teach 'em!! We've seen how cheap Japanese, Taiwanese, South Korean and Chinese goods have destroyed America. We've only been importing that stuff for what, 40 years? I bet if we keep importing stuff for 40 more years, we'll really be in trouble.

76 posted on 03/04/2005 1:42:08 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
That depends. If they buy the goods from the Canadian or US distributors then you might be correct.

If they buy them from your plant in China, then I am correct. Either way, they don't sell 100% Chinese goods.

Exactly. They don't buy them from our factory there, they purchase them from us via their local buying office and we assign the order to the plant that can produce them at the pricing they want still allowing a meagre profit for us. In some cases the plant will be in China, in other cases one of our other factories in Japan, Malaysia, or in the States. All they care about is the price we sell to them at...we could make it in Antarctica for all they care. Their Chinese buying office deals only with stuff they procur themselves and flush through their supply chain. In our case we get classed as "locally sourced."

I'd call their buyer I deal with and confirm the numbers but based on his usual behavior we'd be lucky to get a call back by this time next week :-). I will try and remember to ask him the next time I get a chance though and if he gives me an answer or even knows I'll ping you with his response.

77 posted on 03/04/2005 1:43:17 PM PST by mitchbert (Paul Martin is a Spineless Ditherer. That's a Fact. And Facts Are Stubborn Things .)
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To: dead
Oh ... Okay.

I caught some big bass in Franklin Lakes sand pits when I was a kid. Used to hitchhike from W.Orange all over to that area fishing and awimming.

A kid tries it now, they'll prolly never be heard from again. ;)

78 posted on 03/04/2005 1:45:28 PM PST by G.Mason ("If you are broken It is because you are brittle" ... K.Hepburn, The Lion In Winter)
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To: miliantnutcase
All the China Wally-world stores should sell stuff made in Taiwan. ;)

LOL!

79 posted on 03/04/2005 1:46:16 PM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: mitchbert; SwankyC
Exactly. They don't buy them from our factory there, they purchase them from us via their local buying office and we assign the order to the plant that can produce them at the pricing they want still allowing a meagre profit for us. In some cases the plant will be in China,

What do you know? Sounds like Todd is right and SwankyC feels stupid, again.

Thanks for posting facts, not feelings.

80 posted on 03/04/2005 1:46:34 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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