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Ambrose Bierce on Terrorism His Own Words
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Posted on 03/04/2005 9:04:22 AM PST by robowombat

Exclusive! Ambrose Bierce on Terrorism His Own Words

interviewed by Don Swaim

BIERCE: I knew you'd be back eventually, Mr. Swaim.

SWAIM: Mr. Bierce, we beg your counsel. On September 11, the worst terrorist attack in the history of America occurred in New York, and...

BIERCE: "Celestial bird," I cried in pain, / "What vandal wrought this wreck? Explain."

SWAIM: Precisely, Mr. Bierce, what vandal indeed? Americans need clarity. We must know what sort of people would commit such a deed, flying heavily fueled airliners into tall buildings at the cost of thousands of lives.

BIERCE: I always warned against the airplane. I felt that the invention of the electric leg would be more practical and would end the necessity for flight. Unfortunately, the electric leg has yet to be invented.

SWAIM: This is not a time for humor, Mr. Bierce.

BIERCE: Who's being humorous, Mr. Swaim? But to answer your question directly, let me say that armed with the sinister power of life and death, any evil-minded person [can] gratify a private revenge or wanton malevolence by slaying whom he would...

SWAIM: The strategy and tactics of these terrorists succeeded beyond our wildest imagination -- and perhaps theirs.

BIERCE: And what is strategy, Mr. Swaim? Never mind, I'll tell you. The art of putting two knives to one throat. And what is tactics? The art of drawing them across it. The contemporary "avenger" slays, not the merely the "exalted," but the good and inoffensive...

SWAIM: Yes, the innocent victims who died in this terrorist attack. And it's believed the terrorists were part of a network headed by an extremist named Osama bin Laden.

BIERCE: The recent uniformity of malevolence in the choice of victims is not without significance. It points unmistakably to two facts: first, that the selections are made, not by the assassins themselves, but by some central control inaccessible to individual preference and unaffected by the fortunes of its instruments; second, that there is a constant purpose to manifest an antagonism, not to any individual rule, but to rulers; not to any system of government, but to government. The issue is defined, the alignment made, the battle set: Chaos against Order, [Terrorism] against Law.

SWAIM: The terrorists must have been deranged.

BIERCE: A condition of mind immediately precedent to the commission of a murder.

SWAIM: If the government's right, the terrorists were, and are, members of a fanatic Islamic group that interpreted the Koran literally.

BIERCE: Correct, the Koran. A book which the Mohammedans foolishly believe to have been written by divine inspiration, but which Christians know to be a wicked imposture, contradictory to the Holy Scriptures.

SWAIM: The Western mind can't fathom these militants.

BIERCE: I don't know what, in all circumstances, is right or wrong; but I know that, if right, it is at least stupid to judge an uncivilized people by the standards of morality and intelligence set up by civilized ones.

SWAIM: The hijackers who died aboard the four airliners... They apparently walked among us, lived among us.

BIERCE: From centuries of secret war against particular forms of authority in their own countries they inherited a bitter antagonism to all authority, even the most beneficent. In their new home they were worse than in their old. In the sunshine of opportunity, the rank and sickly growth of their perverted natures became hardy, vigorous, bore fruit. They surrounded themselves with proselytes from the ranks of the idle, the vicious, the unsuccessful. Everyone of them became a center of moral and political contagion.

SWAIM: What should we do with the surviving terrorists if we can catch them?

BIERCE: I favor mutilation for [those] convicted of killing or inciting to kill -- mutilation followed by death; for those who merely deny the right and expediency of law, plain mutilation -- which might advantageously take the form of removal of the tongue... You foul [terrorists], applauding with untidy palms when one of your coward kind hurls a bomb among powerless and helpless women and children!

SWAIM: The attack was a blow against liberty.

BIERCE: Tauri excretio,my friend. We shall learn that our blind dependence upon the magic of words is a fatuous error; that the fortuitous arrangements of consonants and vowels which we worship as Liberty is of slight efficacy in disarming the lunatic brandishing a bomb. Liberty, indeed! The murderous wretch loves it a deal better than we, and wants more of it. Liberty! One almost sickens of the word, so quick and glib it is on every lip -- so destitute of meaning. There is no such thing as abstract liberty; it is not even thinkable. If you ask me, "Do you favor liberty?" I reply, "Liberty of whom to do what?" Just now I distinctly favor the liberty of the law to cut off the noses of [terrorists] caught red-handed or red-tongued. If they go in for mutilation let them feel what it is like.

SWAIM: It was a monumental intelligence failure that let the terrorists slip through airport security, Mr. Bierce.

BIERCE: And I blame the government for it. A government that does not protect life is a flat failure, no matter what else it may do. Life being almost universally regarded as the most precious possession, its security is the first and highest essential -- not the life of him who takes life, but the life which is exposed defenseless to his hateful hand. In no country in the world, civilized or savage, is life so insecure as in ours. The best that we can hope for through all the failures, the injustice, the disheartening damage to individual rights and interests, is a fairly good general result, enabling us to walk abroad among our fellows unafraid, to meet even the tribesmen from another valley without too imminent a peril of braining and evisceration.

SWAIM: Sir, for some ten hours after the disaster, some of us thought the current president of the United States, a man of modest intellect called George W. Bush, was a casualty -- because he spent that time safely hopping from airport to airport instead of taking charge. Even when he did appear on TV to vow vengeance against the perpetrators, he looked like a very small and weak man. What do you think about that?

BIERCE: A politician such as your [accidental] president is an eel in the fundamental mud upon which the superstructure of organized society is reared. When he wriggles he mistakes the agitation of his tail for the trembling of the edifice. As compared with the statesman, he [Mr. Bush] suffers the distinction of being alive.

SWAIM: In the days following the disaster there was a run on American flags. I don't think I've ever seen Americans show as much patriotism.

BIERCE: (harumphs) Patriotism is fierce as a fever, pitiless as the grave, and blind as a stone, Mr. Swaim.

SWAIM: Mr. Bierce, two of the worst elements within the Christian cult, evangelists Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, went on television to say that civil liberties groups, feminists, homosexuals, abortion rights activists bear responsibility for the terrorism. Falwell says God gave us what we deserve.

BIERCE: I know of no public performer [Falwell] who has had to contend against the equal natural disadvantages of personal ignorance and professional incapacity, and the fact that with such heavy odds against him he has succeeded in getting away without incurring actual disgrace is evident. An astronomer knows that the growth of the human hair is not affected by the phases of the moon. A physician knows that homoeopathy is a humbug. A clergyman is aware of the spurious nature of his calling.

SWAIM: I agree, sir. Robertson and Falwell may be ignorant -- but they're shrewd. The frightening thing is that these two fanatics are, in effect, leaders of a Christian Taliban in America, and if they could, they would impose their distorted religious opinions on the rest of us.

BIERCE: Rally around the cross, O leather-lunged elect, for the recognition of Christianity, and its relentless enforcement by law. Let us jam our holy religion down the protesting throats of the heathen and the infidel, so that they shall be brought to know God, and to love him as we do; yea, that they may hanker after him, even as a baby craves rhubarb, or a cat lusts after soft soap.

SWAIM: Perhaps Falwell and Robertson are suffering from some form of dementia.

BIERCE: Dementia being the melancholy mental condition of one whose arguments we are unable to answer.

SWAIM: So where do we stand, Mr. Bierce, after this horrifying attack on America?

BIERCE: Many years ago lived a man who was so good and wise that none in all the world was so good and wise as he. He was one of those few whose goodness and wisdom are such that after some time has passed their foolish fellowmen begin to think them gods and treasure their words as divine law; and by millions they are worshipped through centuries of time. Among the utterances of this man was one command -- not a new nor perfect one -- which has seemed to his adorers so preeminently wise that they have given it a name by which it is known over half the world. One of the sovereign virtues of this famous law is its simplicity, which is such that all hearing must understand; and obedience is so easy that any nation refusing it is unfit to exist except in the turbulence and adversity that will surely come to it. When a people would avert want and strife, or, having them, would restore plenty and peace, this noble commandment offers the only means -- all other plans for safety or relief are as vain as dreams, as empty as the crooning of hags. And behold, here it is: "All things whatsoever ye would that men should so to you, do ye even so to them."

SWAIM: An eye for an eye, Mr. Bierce?

BIERCE: If you do not do others as they would do to you it shall occur, and right soon, that ye be drowned in your own blood and your pickpocket civilization quenched as a star that falls into the sea.

SWAIM: A frightening thought, sir.

BIERCE: You think that's frightening, Mr. Swaim? Many years ago I wrote about a civilization edging toward its destruction. So horrible was the mortality, so futile all preventive legislation, that society was stricken with a universal panic. Cities were plundered and abandoned; villages without villagers fell to decay; homes were given up to bats and owls, and farms became jungles infested with wild beasts. The people fled to the mountains, the forests, the marshes, concealing themselves from one another in caves and thickets, and dying from privation and exposure and diseases more dreadful from which they had fled. When every human being distrusted and feared every other human being, solitude was esteemed the only good; and solitude spells death. In one generation Americans and Europeans had slunk back into the night of the barbarian.

© 2001 by Don Swaim

(Note: These actual comments by Ambrose Bierce were culled from his COLLECTED WORKS and other source material, and in a few instances were minimally edited for form only. I have substituted the word "terrorist" for "anarchist." The questions were my own.)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: California; US: Ohio; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ambrosebierce; bierce

1 posted on 03/04/2005 9:04:22 AM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat
POLITICS, n. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage.

- AB

2 posted on 03/04/2005 9:11:32 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: robowombat

Ambrose Bierce was a skeptic's skeptic. He makes H.L. "Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey-cage" Menken look like a lightweight. Very clever piece.

"...the Koran. A book which the Mohammedans foolishly believe to have been written by divine inspiration, but which Christians know to be a wicked imposture, contradictory to the Holy Scriptures."

Bierce didn't need 9/11 to figure that out.


3 posted on 03/04/2005 9:22:39 AM PST by cloud8
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To: robowombat

Leftist pap dressed like Arthurian prose, but pap just the same. Why post it other than to further its ideas?


4 posted on 03/04/2005 9:23:10 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: cloud8
I believe the comment was meant to be irony. "Bitter" Bierce was as skeptical of the Christian church as he was of any other institution.
5 posted on 03/04/2005 9:29:42 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

> "Bitter" Bierce was as skeptical of the Christian church as he was of any other institution.

You're right, of course. Bierce spares no one, and his attitude towards Christianity comes out clearly later in the article. I was merely enjoying his dig at the Religion of Peace.


6 posted on 03/04/2005 9:42:01 AM PST by cloud8
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Leftist is about as far from Bierce's orientation as is possible. Unfortunately his redactor seems to have the usual SF smart Aleck attitude towards the President. Bierce detested politicians per se not by party affiliation. The closest I can come to a political orientation would be a sort of libertarian with a small'l'. He would have found the current Libertarian Party hilarious.
7 posted on 03/04/2005 10:27:40 AM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat
I form my opinion based on this:

SWAIM: Sir, for some ten hours after the disaster, some of us thought the current president of the United States, a man of modest intellect called George W. Bush, was a casualty -- because he spent that time safely hopping from airport to airport instead of taking charge. Even when he did appear on TV to vow vengeance against the perpetrators, he looked like a very small and weak man. What do you think about that?

It seems that his collaborator speaks for him in the way he sets up the question.

BIERCE: A politician such as your [accidental] president is an eel in the fundamental mud upon which the superstructure of organized society is reared. When he wriggles he mistakes the agitation of his tail for the trembling of the edifice. As compared with the statesman, he [Mr. Bush] suffers the distinction of being alive.

Considering what Bush has accomplished I think to cast him in this light is to support the other side. It mimics the MSM.

SWAIM: In the days following the disaster there was a run on American flags. I don't think I've ever seen Americans show as much patriotism.

BIERCE: (harumphs) Patriotism is fierce as a fever, pitiless as the grave, and blind as a stone, Mr. Swaim.

Sounds like the moral relativism of the left. Each is a patriot to his own cause, including the "freedom fighter" terrorists.

Regardless of what is in his heart the result of his comments is to support the left.

8 posted on 03/04/2005 11:29:39 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: robowombat
Ambrose Bierce sounds to me like someone completely consumed with self-perception of an over-inflated sense of intellect. He seems to go out of his way to make each and every utterance sound more intellectual than the one before. (Intellectual overkill, if you will).

This interview comes off sounding like a series of one-liners prepared in advance in response to a series of questions served up like softballs.

The only people who talk like this do it with the uncontrollable desire to talk over the heads of everyone else. I refuse to believe that it is because he can't talk in a more casual manner, he just gets a buzz from the notion that he confuses most of his listeners. In my opinion, that is a poor reflection on him.
9 posted on 03/04/2005 11:32:54 AM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: robowombat

Ambrose Bierce was an interesting writer, but hardly a reliable moral guide or political commentator.


10 posted on 03/04/2005 11:37:10 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: robowombat
BIERCE: And I blame the government for it. A government that does not protect life is a flat failure, no matter what else it may do. Life being almost universally regarded as the most precious possession, its security is the first and highest essential -- not the life of him who takes life, but the life which is exposed defenseless to his hateful hand.

For someone who expends so much effort trying to come off as intellectual, Bierce possesses a fundamental lack of understanding regard the "American Experience". He doesn't understand the concept that Patrick Henry so boldly stated with "Give me liberty, or give me death". This epitomizes American history. Bierce seems to think that Americans would rather cry "Give me LIFE, no matter what". What Americans believe is the government's most important responsibility toward its citizens is to provide liberty, not security. Maybe where he is from, security is the most precious commodity, but at least for now ( and hopefully for a long time) we choose to value liberty over security.
11 posted on 03/04/2005 11:44:59 AM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: Billthedrill
"Bitter" Bierce was as skeptical of the Christian church as he was of any other institution.

Bierce's definition of a Christian: "One who believes in the teachings of Jesus Christ insofar as they are not inconsistent with a life of sin ..."

The quote came up several years ago in connection with the kind of Christianity a recent ex-president practices.

12 posted on 03/04/2005 12:20:36 PM PST by beckett
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To: AaronInCarolina
However, one of the thirteen stated functions of the federal government in the Constitution is 'providing for the common defense' and as jerked out of historical context as the Bierce quote is it is apropos. For all the dollars we send off to Washington we do have a reasonable right to feel that our government will use some of them to actually protect us from foreign treats whether from enemy states or simply marauders such as the 9-11 terrorists. (Who ought be considered in the same category as pirate 'the common enemies of mankind'.). The current administration didn't produce the sorry state of affairs that led to 9-11. There is a long line of high ranking civil and military figures and several past presidents that have 9-11 to answer for. From the murder of US diplomats in Khartoum in 1973 down to the series of terrorist events Bill Clinton chose to ignore, starting with the first attack on the WTC in Feb 1993 the so called leaders who recoiled from dealing with terrorism because of its inherent messiness and potential for generating diplomatic headaches and bad press (the MSM feel the only response to terrorism tolerable is 'sympathy' for its victims) have the blood of 9-11 fatalities on their hands.
When Reagan and part of his White House team wanted to get serious with terrorism there was the biggest uproar imaginable within the government. No agency wanted to touch it. The Pentagon chieftains saw it as a messy no win engagement that would siphon dollars from big ticket weapons systems. (The US armed forces want to prepare and fight high intensity battlefield conflict such as the battle we endlessly prepared to fight with the Soviets over West Germany. The unconventional gray area conflicts that would have tobe (and now are) being waged with terrorists and their enablers was simply an unpalatable diversion. The State Dept urinated on itself with fear of the 'consequences' of taking such actions. The Arabs would get angry and the French would be unhappy and the Russians would use the attacks to 'make inroads' among the turban turner nations. Blah Blah Blah. This was why most of the anti terror campaign faltered from the start. When we intercepted the Klinghoffer killers aircraft and forced down in Sicily there was the damnedest uproar imaginable. 'Piracy, violation of international law', were among the mildest epithets Euroweasels employed. Now finally our government is doing something to crush the terrorists and still all the liberals and their ilk do is rant about 'prisoner abuse' and how we have made the Europeans unhappy.

Bottom line , if there is one thing we our owed by our government it is an effort to keep Americans from being killed en mass by foreigners.
13 posted on 03/04/2005 12:21:24 PM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat

True, but to be totally secure, we have to give up liberty. To be totally free, we have to give up security. Now, there exists a continuum between these 2 extremes, some relative mutually exclusive weighting, and the ideal selection of some point along that continuum is difficult to choose so that everyone is happy. The fact is that most of the responses that the Bush administration has made in the way of the Dept. of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act have been roundly critized by critics such as Bierce as being too over-reaching. Your point is well-made regarding the responsibilities as laid out in the Constitution, but I don't think the founders envisioned a threat that came from vaguely defined terrorist groups as opposed to other foreign nations. Out government does a pretty good job of keeping other countries from harming us while not sacrificing any personal liberties. It cannot, however, completely protect us from terrorists without potentially depleting some civil liberties. The point that I was making was that Bierce seemed to think that we as Americans value security above all else and would be willing to give up significant amounts of our personal liberties in order to feel secure. I believe that Americans would rather keep most of our civil liberties and be less secure, than vice-versa.


14 posted on 03/04/2005 12:41:18 PM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Bierce's comments need to be viewed in context. An officer for the North in the Civil War, Bierce's cynicism was informed by the war's horror in large part caused when 16th century tactics met 19th century weaponry. Viewed in today's light, and as redacted by this author, his words can be perplexing. Viewed in the context of his times, however, many of his perceptions are amazing. I think the Devil's Dictionary should be required high school reading.
15 posted on 03/04/2005 1:18:10 PM PST by Buzwardo
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To: Buzwardo

Thanks. I was totally unaware of the context, not being familiar with Bierce. My ignorance is exceeded only by my ennui.


16 posted on 03/04/2005 1:26:03 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: AaronInCarolina
Actually the first foreign foes the US faced were somewhat similar to the jihadis, namely Barbary pirates and later piratical marauders in the Caribbean using letters of marque (shhhh don't tell the Libertarians) from various Latin American groups revolting against Spain. All the same gray area messiness and treacherous conduct by foreign states who were happy to profit from piracy or were willing to succor pirates and let them attack a 'weak' state such as the new USA was present.that we face with the jihadis was present. The US government never developed a coordinated policy to handle these raiders. However, when Jefferson and later Madison (after the end of the War of 18120 directed strong naval forces to deal with Barbary pirates these sea rovers desisted in attacking American vessels.
17 posted on 03/04/2005 2:13:11 PM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat
However, when Jefferson and later Madison (after the end of the War of 18120 directed strong naval forces to deal with Barbary pirates these sea rovers desisted in attacking American vessels.

Yes, but there were no attacks within our borders were there? I'm honestly asking. Most were attacks on the high seas, something that military forces could respond to, without infringing on civil liberties within our borders. I think that what we have going on here is at least slightly different, and not so easily remedied.
18 posted on 03/04/2005 2:26:46 PM PST by AaronInCarolina
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