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The Intellectual Incoherence of Conservatism
Ludwig von Mises Institute ^ | March 4, 2005 | Hans-Hermann Hoppe

Posted on 03/04/2005 5:12:44 AM PST by kjvail

Modern conservatism, in the United States and Europe, is confused and distorted. Under the influence of representative democracy and with the transformation of the U.S. and Europe into mass democracies from World War I, conservatism was transformed from an anti-egalitarian, aristocratic, anti-statist ideological force into a movement of culturally conservative statists: the right wing of the socialists and social democrats.

Most self-proclaimed contemporary conservatives are concerned, as they should be, about the decay of families, divorce, illegitimacy, loss of authority, multiculturalism, social disintegration, sexual libertinism, and crime. All of these phenomena they regard as anomalies and deviations from the natural order, or what we might call normalcy.

However, most contemporary conservatives (at least most of the spokesmen of the conservative establishment) either do not recognize that their goal of restoring normalcy requires the most drastic, even revolutionary, antistatist social changes, or (if they know about this) they are engaged in betraying conservatism's cultural agenda from inside in order to promote an entirely different agenda.

That this is largely true for the so-called neoconservatives does not require further explanation here. Indeed, as far as their leaders are concerned, one suspects that most of them are of the latter kind. They are not truly concerned about cultural matters but recognize that they must play the cultural-conservatism card so as not to lose power and promote their entirely different goal of global social democracy.1 The fundamentally statist character of American neoconservatism is best summarized by a statement of one of its leading intellectual champions Irving Kristol:

"[T]he basic principle behind a conservative welfare state ought to be a simple one: wherever possible, people should be allowed to keep their own money—rather than having it transferred (via taxes to the state)—on the condition that they put it to certain defined uses." [Two Cheers for Capitalism, New York: Basic Books, 1978, p. 119].

This view is essentially identical to that held by modern, post-Marxist European Social-Democrats. Thus, Germany's Social Democratic Party (SPD), for instance, in its Godesberg Program of 1959, adopted as its core motto the slogan "as much market as possible, as much state as necessary."

A second, somewhat older but nowadays almost indistinguishable branch of contemporary American conservatism is represented by the new (post World War II) conservatism launched and promoted, with the assistance of the CIA, by William Buckley and his National Review. Whereas the old (pre-World War II) American conservatism had been characterized by decidedly anti-interventionist foreign policy views, the trademark of Buckley's new conservatism has been its rabid militarism and interventionist foreign policy.

In an article, "A Young Republican's View," published in Commonweal on January 25, 1952, three years before the launching of his National Review, Buckley thus summarized what would become the new conservative credo: In light of the threat posed by the Soviet Union, "we [new conservatives] have to accept Big Government for the duration—for neither an offensive nor a defensive war can be waged . . . except through the instrument of a totalitarian bureaucracy within our shores."

Conservatives, Buckley wrote, were duty-bound to promote "the extensive and productive tax laws that are needed to support a vigorous anti-Communist foreign policy," as well as the "large armies and air forces, atomic energy central intelligence, war production boards and the attendant centralization of power in Washington."

Not surprisingly, since the collapse of the Soviet Union in the late 1980s, essentially nothing in this philosophy has changed. Today, the continuation and preservation of the American welfare-warfare state is simply excused and promoted by new and neo-conservatives alike with reference to other foreign enemies and dangers: China, Islamic fundamentalism, Saddam Hussein, "rogue states," and the threat of "global terrorism."

However, it is also true that many conservatives are genuinely concerned about family disintegration or dysfunction and cultural decline. I am thinking here in particular of the conservatism represented by Patrick Buchanan and his movement. Buchanan's conservatism is by no means as different from that of the conservative Republican party establishment as he and his followers fancy themselves. In one decisive respect their brand of conservatism is in full agreement with that of the conservative establishment: both are statists. They differ over what exactly needs to be done to restore normalcy to the U.S., but they agree that it must be done by the state. There is not a trace of principled antistatism in either.

Let me illustrate by quoting Samuel Francis, who was one of the leading theoreticians and strategists of the Buchananite movement. After deploring "anti-white" and "anti-Western" propaganda, "militant secularism, acquisitive egoism, economic and political globalism, demographic inundation, and unchecked state centralism," he expounds on a new spirit of "America First," which "implies not only putting national interests over those of other nations and abstractions like 'world leadership,' 'global harmony,' and the 'New World Order,' but also giving priority to the nation over the gratification of individual and subnational interests."

How does he propose to fix the problem of moral degeneration and cultural decline? There is no recognition that the natural order in education means that the state has nothing to do with it. Education is entirely a family matter and ought to be produced and distributed in cooperative arrangements within the framework of the market economy.

Moreover, there is no recognition that moral degeneracy and cultural decline have deeper causes and cannot simply be cured by state-imposed curriculum changes or exhortations and declamations. To the contrary, Francis proposes that the cultural turn-around—the restoration of normalcy—can be achieved without a fundamental change in the structure of the modern welfare state. Indeed, Buchanan and his ideologues explicitly defend the three core institutions of the welfare state: social security, medicare, and unemployment subsidies. They even want to expand the "social" responsibilities of the state by assigning to it the task of "protecting," by means of national import and export restrictions, American jobs, especially in industries of national concern, and "insulate the wages of U.S. workers from foreign laborers who must work for $1 an hour or less."

In fact, Buchananites freely admit that they are statists. They detest and ridicule capitalism, laissez-faire, free markets and trade, wealth, elites, and nobility; and they advocate a new populist—indeed proletarian—conservatism which amalgamates social and cultural conservatism and socialist economics. Thus, continues Francis,

while the left could win Middle Americans through its economic measures, it lost them through its social and cultural radicalism, and while the right could attract Middle Americans through appeals to law and order and defense of sexual normality, conventional morals and religion, traditional social institutions and invocations of nationalism and patriotism, it lost Middle Americans when it rehearsed its old bourgeois economic formulas.

Hence, it is necessary to combine the economic policies of the left and the nationalism and cultural conservatism of the right, to create "a new identity synthesizing both the economic interests and cultural-national loyalties of the proletarianized middle class in a separate and unified political movement."2 For obvious reasons this doctrine is not so named, but there is a term for this type of conservatism: It is called social nationalism or national socialism.

(As for most of the leaders of the so-called Christian Right and the "moral majority," they simply desire (far worse from a genuinely conservative point of view) the replacement of the current, left-liberal elite in charge of national education by another one, i.e., themselves. "From Burke on," Robert Nisbet has criticized this posture, "it has been a conservative precept and a sociological principle since Auguste Comte that the surest way of weakening the family, or any vital social group, is for the government to assume, and then monopolize, the family's historic functions." In contrast, much of the contemporary American Right "is less interested in Burkean immunities from government power than it is in putting a maximum of governmental power in the hands of those who can be trusted. It is control of power, not diminution of power, that ranks high.")

I will not concern myself here with the question of whether or not Buchanan's conservatism has mass appeal and whether or not its diagnosis of American politics is sociologically correct. I doubt that this is the case, and certainly Buchanan's fate during the 1995 and 2000 Republican presidential primaries does not indicate otherwise. Rather, I want to address the more fundamental questions: Assuming that it does have such appeal; that is, assuming that cultural conservatism and socialist economics can be psychologically combined (that is, that people can hold both of these views simultaneously without cognitive dissonance), can they also be effectively and practically (economically and praxeologically) combined? Is it possible to maintain the current level of economic socialism (social security, etc.) and reach the goal of restoring cultural normalcy (natural families and normal rules of conduct)?

Buchanan and his theoreticians do not feel the need to raise this question, because they believe politics to be solely a matter of will and power. They do not believe in such things as economic laws. If people want something enough, and they are given the power to implement their will, everything can be achieved. The "dead Austrian economist" Ludwig von Mises, to whom Buchanan referred contemptuously during his presidential campaigns, characterized this belief as "historicism," the intellectual posture of the German Kathedersozialisten, the academic Socialists of the Chair, who justified any and all statist measures.

But historicist contempt and ignorance of economics does not alter the fact that inexorable economic laws exist. You cannot have your cake and eat it too, for instance. Or what you consume now cannot be consumed again in the future. Or producing more of one good requires producing less of another. No wishful thinking can make such laws go away. To believe otherwise can only result in practical failure. "In fact," noted Mises, "economic history is a long record of government policies that failed because they were designed with a bold disregard for the laws of economics."3

In light of elementary and immutable economic laws, the Buchananite program of social nationalism is just another bold but impossible dream. No wishful thinking can alter the fact that maintaining the core institutions of the present welfare state and wanting to return to traditional families, norms, conduct, and culture are incompatible goals. You can have one—socialism (welfare)—or the other—traditional morals—but you cannot have both, for social nationalist economics, the pillar of the current welfare state system Buchanan wants to leave untouched, is the very cause of cultural and social anomalies.

In order to clarify this, it is only necessary to recall one of the most fundamental laws of economics which says that all compulsory wealth or income redistribution, regardless of the criteria on which it is based, involves taking from some—the havers of something—and giving it to others—the non-havers of something. Accordingly, the incentive to be a haver is reduced, and the incentive to be a non-haver increased. What the haver has is characteristically something considered "good," and what the non-haver does not have is something "bad" or a deficiency. Indeed, this is the very idea underlying any redistribution: some have too much good stuff and others not enough. The result of every redistribution is that one will thereby produce less good and increasingly more bad, less perfection and more deficiencies. By subsidizing with tax funds (with funds taken from others) people who are poor, more poverty (bad) will be created. By subsidizing people because they are unemployed, more unemployment (bad) will be created. By subsidizing unwed mothers, there will be more unwed mothers and more illegitimate births (bad), etc.

Obviously, this basic insight applies to the entire system of so-called social security that has been implemented in Western Europe (from the 1880s onward) and the U.S. (since the 1930s): of compulsory government "insurance" against old age, illness, occupational injury, unemployment, indigence, etc. In conjunction with the even older compulsory system of public education, these institutions and practices amount to a massive attack on the institution of the family and personal responsibility.

By relieving individuals of the obligation to provide for their own income, health, safety, old age, and children's education, the range and temporal horizon of private provision is reduced, and the value of marriage, family, children, and kinship relations is lowered. Irresponsibility, shortsightedness, negligence, illness and even destructionism (bads) are promoted, and responsibility, farsightedness, diligence, health and conservatism (goods) are punished.

The compulsory old age insurance system in particular, by which retirees (the old) are subsidized from taxes imposed on current income earners (the young), has systematically weakened the natural intergenerational bond between parents, grandparents, and children. The old need no longer rely on the assistance of their children if they have made no provision for their own old age; and the young (with typically less accumulated wealth) must support the old (with typically more accumulated wealth) rather than the other way around, as is typical within families.

Consequently, not only do people want to have fewer children—and indeed, birthrates have fallen in half since the onset of modern social security (welfare) policies—but also the respect which the young traditionally accorded to their elders is diminished, and all indicators of family disintegration and malfunctioning, such as rates of divorce, illegitimacy, child abuse, parent abuse, spouse abuse, single parenting, singledom, alternative lifestyles, and abortion, have increased.

Moreover, with the socialization of the health care system through institutions such as Medicaid and Medicare and the regulation of the insurance industry (by restricting an insurer's right of refusal: to exclude any individual risk as uninsurable, and discriminate freely, according to actuarial methods, between different group risks) a monstrous machinery of wealth and income redistribution at the expense of responsible individuals and low-risk groups in favor of irresponsible actors and high-risk groups has been put in motion. Subsidies for the ill, unhealthy and disabled breed illness, disease, and disability and weaken the desire to work for a living and to lead healthy lives. One can do no better than quote the "dead Austrian economist" Ludwig von Mises once more:

being ill is not a phenomenon independent of conscious will. . . . A man's efficiency is not merely a result of his physical condition; it depends largely on his mind and will. . . . The destructionist aspect of accident and health insurance lies above all in the fact that such institutions promote accident and illness, hinder recovery, and very often create, or at any rate intensify and lengthen, the functional disorders which follow illness or accident. . . . To feel healthy is quite different from being healthy in the medical sense. . . . By weakening or completely destroying the will to be well and able to work, social insurance creates illness and inability to work; it produces the habit of complaining—which is in itself a neurosis—and neuroses of other kinds. . . . As a social institution it makes a people sick bodily and mentally or at least helps to multiply, lengthen, and intensify disease. . . . Social insurance has thus made the neurosis of the insured a dangerous public disease. Should the institution be extended and developed the disease will spread. No reform can be of any assistance. We cannot weaken or destroy the will to health without producing illness.4 I do not wish to explain here the economic nonsense of Buchanan's and his theoreticians' even further-reaching idea of protectionist policies (of protecting American wages). If they were right, their argument in favor of economic protection would amount to an indictment of all trade and a defense of the thesis that each family would be better off if it never traded with anyone else. Certainly, in this case no one could ever lose his job, and unemployment due to "unfair" competition would be reduced to zero.

Yet such a full-employment society would not be prosperous and strong; it would be composed of people (families) who, despite working from dawn to dusk, would be condemned to poverty and starvation. Buchanan's international protectionism, while less destructive than a policy of interpersonal or interregional protectionism, would result in precisely the same effect. This is not conservatism (conservatives want families to be prosperous and strong). This is economic destructionism.

In any case, what should be clear by now is that most if not all of the moral degeneration and cultural decline—the signs of decivilization—all around us are the inescapable and unavoidable results of the welfare state and its core institutions. Classical, old-style conservatives knew this, and they vigorously opposed public education and social security. They knew that states everywhere were intent upon breaking down and ultimately destroying families and the institutions and layers and hierarchies of authority that are the natural outgrowth of family based communities in order to increase and strengthen their own power. They knew that in order to do so states would have to take advantage of the natural rebellion of the adolescent (juvenile) against parental authority. And they knew that socialized education and socialized responsibility were the means of bringing about this goal.

Social education and social security provide an opening for the rebellious youth to escape parental authority (to get away with continuous misbehavior). Old conservatives knew that these policies would emancipate the individual from the discipline imposed by family and community life only to subject him instead to the direct and immediate control of the state.

Furthermore, they knew, or at least had a hunch, that this would lead to a systematic infantilization of society—a regression, emotionally and mentally, from adulthood to adolescence or childhood.

In contrast, Buchanan's populist-proletarian conservatism—social nationalism—shows complete ignorance of all of this. Combining cultural conservatism and welfare-statism is impossible, and hence, economic nonsense. Welfare-statism—social security in any way, shape or form—breeds moral and cultural decline and degeneration. Thus, if one is indeed concerned about America's moral decay and wants to restore normalcy to society and culture, one must oppose all aspects of the modern social-welfare state. A return to normalcy requires no less than the complete elimination of the present social security system: of unemployment insurance, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, public education, etc.—and thus the near complete dissolution and deconstruction of the current state apparatus and government power. If one is ever to restore normalcy, government funds and power must dwindle to or even fall below their nineteenth century levels. Hence, true conservatives must be hard-line libertarians (antistatists). Buchanan's conservatism is false: it wants a return to traditional morality but at the same time advocates keeping the very institutions in place that are responsible for the destruction of traditional morals.

Most contemporary conservatives, then, especially among the media darlings, are not conservatives but socialists—either of the internationalist sort (the new and neoconservative welfare-warfare statists and global social democrats) or of the nationalist variety (the Buchananite populists). Genuine conservatives must be opposed to both. In order to restore social and cultural norms, true conservatives can only be radical libertarians, and they must demand the demolition—as a moral and economic distortion—of the entire structure of the interventionist state.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
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To: Sam the Sham
"So the government must step in to protect people from themselves and each other."

Just what the Left wants, I guess you are just right on that. It's why the Left encourages irresponsible behavior and why they say nothing is anybody's fault. At least if you are irresponsible, they say it's not your fault - if you are trying to uphold American tradition, everything is your fault.

181 posted on 03/04/2005 10:33:11 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam the Sham

Responsibility needs to be taught. Without it, a libertarian society will not succeed.

I forget who said what about all this, but the synopsis is this:

a representative republic will not succeed where the society does not have strong moral fabric.

I think it was Madison or one of those guys.


182 posted on 03/04/2005 10:33:13 AM PST by Al Gator (God did not give us life so that we could run and ask a bureaucrat what to do with it.)
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To: Al Gator

Why should you need to do anything about 'sneaky folk'? If they're breaking a law, you arrest and prosecute. If not, go about your business and ignore them.


183 posted on 03/04/2005 10:35:04 AM PST by thoughtomator (National Socialist, Transnational Socialist, what's the difference?)
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To: thoughtomator; Al Gator; Protagoras
Respect for the law is easy. Make sure every man, woman, and child has a gun and knows how to use it. Make as few laws as possible so that everyone can know the whole of the law.

Sixgun justice is no justice at all. Human beings established the state because they did not wish to live under feud, vendetta, warlord anarchy, or the bullying of the mobbed up. Adults established the state because there is no worse tyranny than that of a teenage boy with a gun in a lawless world.

With thinking like yours, no wonder libertarianism is and will always be a common sense-deficient fringe.

184 posted on 03/04/2005 10:41:36 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham
no wonder libertarianism is and will always be a common sense-deficient fringe.

Yawn.


185 posted on 03/04/2005 10:43:50 AM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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To: Sam the Sham
You signed up on April fools day, and it was prophetic.

What was your screen name before you got booted last time?

186 posted on 03/04/2005 10:45:46 AM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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To: Pietro

In order to restore social and moral norms, we are going to need something a lot stronger than the Patriot Act.

I for one would be against it. Give me a party that (unlike some republicans) stays OUT of my personal business and a party that (unlike the democrats) stay OUT of my wallet and I'd vote for them.

Don't even mention the losertarians, that party has some good ideas but no party that refuses to protect our borders deserves anyones' vote. At least not from a legal citizen.


187 posted on 03/04/2005 10:47:43 AM PST by trubluolyguy ("You think that's tough, try losing a testicle in a knife fight with your mother")
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To: thoughtomator
Be more specific please. What about the subject of family law requires a tyranny of government or society?

As I explained above, in olden time when a man got a girl in trouble he either married her or was disgraced or answered to the swords of her kinsmen. Now he has to pay child support because we no longer have shotgun weddings.

188 posted on 03/04/2005 10:48:13 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham

Ahh, now I know what is driving your thinking. You are so afraid of guns that you refuse to consider the role of self-defense in maintaining an orderly, peaceful society.

Self-defense is not "sixgun justice". It is an inalienable human right. I am not and never have proposed the lawless society you fear, nor would I favor such a society. Anyone who pursued vigilante justice would be punished for crimes they committed.

You need to educate yourself in the values that founded this great nation of ours. They can work and they do work.

Tyranny - social or governmental - is NOT a requirement of human society.


189 posted on 03/04/2005 10:50:12 AM PST by thoughtomator (National Socialist, Transnational Socialist, what's the difference?)
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To: kjvail
I think that the essayist, who is a renowned economist, is largely right on his analysis of the problem. However, he is wrong to lump Pat Buchanan's moderate Conservatism in with the phoney baloney types, who call themselves "Neocons," or with other big Government favoring aberrations. Pat has compromised the traditional American values, in a--I suppose compassionate--outreach, to deal with the disruptions in the economics of various parts of the United States. I also disagree with his approach to Tariffs, although I acknowledge that there at least, there is a segment of traditional America which would agree with Pat.

But all of this said, I think that Pat has at least said what the writer is saying; that what is being peddled in Washington, today, as Conservatism, most certainly is not.

The writer, on the other hand, is entirely right in pointing out that true American Conservatism is very Libertarian. He would do better, I think, not to call it "radical," however, as that is a big turn off. And there is nothing radical in demanding that we return to the wise Republic of the Founding Fathers--who provided us with the only legal basis for a Federal Government. It is not radical to demand that our elected leaders observe their oaths of office, for a prime example. As for Medicare? It is not radical to demand that they end a program that is neither Constitutional, nor economically sustainable. The radicals are those who insist on increasing the ambit.

Finally, I would suggest that the writer would not find any of the destructive, Statist false "Conservatism," at my Conservative web site. Some of us have not compromised and never intend to.

All that said, thank you for publishing a challenging article.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

190 posted on 03/04/2005 10:50:56 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Al Gator

No moral fiber?

Eat rye bread


191 posted on 03/04/2005 10:52:02 AM PST by trubluolyguy ("You think that's tough, try losing a testicle in a knife fight with your mother")
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To: Sam the Sham

So what's the bar to requiring a man to support a child he fathers? Why do we need the entire apparatus of a big government/society to make such a simple rule?


192 posted on 03/04/2005 10:52:36 AM PST by thoughtomator (National Socialist, Transnational Socialist, what's the difference?)
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To: Al Gator

Without civilized behavior, the citizenry becomes a bread and circuses mob. And Caesars come from there.


193 posted on 03/04/2005 10:54:16 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: thoughtomator

Do you have a clue how hard it is even with big government to enforce child support rulings ? There is nothing in the least simple about it !


194 posted on 03/04/2005 10:55:39 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham

As I asked, what's the bar to it? Why does requiring a person to support his/her children also require government education and mohair subsidies?


195 posted on 03/04/2005 11:00:53 AM PST by thoughtomator (National Socialist, Transnational Socialist, what's the difference?)
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To: Sam the Sham
Without civilized behavior, the citizenry becomes a bread and circuses mob.

Putting government in charge of civilization is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.

196 posted on 03/04/2005 12:39:41 PM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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To: Protagoras; Al Gator; Durus; thoughtomator

And civilization is safer with MTV in charge ?

Only a society structured around deferred gratification, respect for authority, rigid social conventions, etc could render big government unnecessary. And the logic of capitalism is to create a Viacom which tells our daughters to dress like Britney Spears.

The sexual revolution was pure consumer capitalism. Always looking for the better deal. Trading in your old model for a flashy new status symbol. Moving up. Trading up. Sex is just business. Nothing personal. No hard feelings. Didn't "trade" become a euphemism for sex ?

So the very logic of consumer capitalism is to destroy the values that would make a libertarian society possible.


197 posted on 03/04/2005 12:54:38 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: thoughtomator
Socialism and conservatism are highly opposed to one another

Of course they are. However, please provide the names of some actual conservatives that hold office and do not adhere to the principles of the New Deal or countless other social programs.

Conservatism in the US today bears zero resemblance to what the article alleges is conservative.

Of course it doesn't because what passes for conservatism today in this nation of states is not conservative

198 posted on 03/04/2005 12:57:38 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: kjvail

I suppose that cognitive dissonance must have cognitive before dissonance can take place. I don't detect much of the cognitive factor in this piece.


199 posted on 03/04/2005 1:00:04 PM PST by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: Sam the Sham
Please remove me from your goofy little ping list. You have nothing to say worth reading.

What was your old screen name?

200 posted on 03/04/2005 1:02:59 PM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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