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Scientists Slam US Plasma Weapon
The Register ^ | 03/03/2005 | Lester Haines

Posted on 03/03/2005 11:09:09 PM PST by NationSoConceived

Scientists have reacted angrily to the revelation that the US military is funding development of a weapon intended to deliver an "excrutiating bout of pain" from over a mile away. The "Pulsed Energy Projectile" (PEP) device "fires a laser pulse that generates a burst of expanding plasma when it hits something solid", the New Scientist explains. If you happen to be that something solid, then you get temporarily incapacitated without suffering permanent injury.

That's the theory, but pain reasearchers fear that the proposed riot control weapon could be used for torture, and further doubt a solid ethical basis for the research. Andrew Rice, a consultant in pain medicine at Chelsea and Westminster Hospital in London, said: "Even if the use of temporary severe pain can be justified as a restraining measure, which I do not believe it can, the long-term physical and psychological effects are unknown."

What those physical effects might be is the subject of a University of Central Florida in Orlando study which aims to "optimise" the effect of PEPs as noted in a 2003 US Naval Studies Board review of non-lethal weapons. The review outlined how PEPs produced "pain and temporary paralysis" in animal tests, apparently as a result of "an electromagnetic pulse produced by the expanding plasma which triggers impulses in nerve cells".

The new study was exposed by biological weapons research watchdog the Sunshine Project, which obtained papers relating to the programme under the US's Freedom of Information Act. One research contract between the Office of Naval Research and the University of Florida in Gainsville is snappily entitled: "Sensory consequences of electromagnetic pulses emitted by laser induced plasmas".

New Scientist notes that the contract was heavily censored before release, but reveals that researchers are requested to investigate "optimal pulse parameters to evoke peak nociceptor activation", ie, how to cause the maximum pain possible without killing the subject.

One scientist working on the project - Martin Richardson, a laser expert at the University of Central Florida - declined to comment to New Scientist. Another - Brian Cooper, an expert in dental pain at the University of Florida - attempted to downplay his involvement by saying: "I don't have anything interesting to convey. I was just providing some background for the group."

According to John Wood of University College London, an expert in how the brain perceives pain, both Richardson and Cooper and all those working on the PEP research project should face censure because any weapon resulting from the programme "could be used for torture".


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; miltech; nondeadly; nonlethal; pep; plasma; torture; unsecgenclinton; weapon; weapons
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To: NationSoConceived

Actually, this gadget sounds like one of the Goa'uld Staff Weapons from "Stargate SG-1." Maybe the technology was leaked out of Cheyenne Mountain........


21 posted on 03/04/2005 5:35:55 AM PST by G-Bear (My liver is EVIL, and I must PUNISH it!)
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To: NationSoConceived

If it is possible, it WILL be invented. The only questions become, who owns 'em and how are they used.


22 posted on 03/04/2005 5:38:10 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: NationSoConceived
I like the idea of avoiding killing people who very much need to be incapacitated, but is it going to make life easier or harder for soldiers? One extra decision: shoot to kill or shoot to disable?

It depends on whether or not there's information to be obtained from the target.

23 posted on 03/04/2005 5:38:49 AM PST by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: ConservativeMind
I accept that this seems an ominous direction to take.

You do realize that this means revolution to overthrow a domestic tyranny will now be impossible.

24 posted on 03/04/2005 5:39:22 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: NationSoConceived

Andrew Rice seems to have been the first target...;-)


25 posted on 03/04/2005 5:40:59 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: NationSoConceived

I think disabling your enemy is more destructive to the other side. They then have to have a person or 2 take care of them, and the physical pain displayed also demoralizes them.


26 posted on 03/04/2005 5:42:44 AM PST by Mr. K (this space for rent)
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To: GeronL

Big Brother believes he can be better in battle if he had a bigger, bolder beeber.


27 posted on 03/04/2005 5:43:31 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Harpo Speaks

LOL


28 posted on 03/04/2005 5:44:48 AM PST by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: NationSoConceived
"Even if the use of temporary severe pain can be justified as a restraining measure, which I do not believe it can, the long-term physical and psychological effects are unknown."
Oh well.
Guess we'll just have to shoot them after all.
29 posted on 03/04/2005 5:45:42 AM PST by norton (build a wall and post the rules at the gate)
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To: NationSoConceived
device "fires a laser pulse that generates a burst of expanding plasma when it hits something solid"

B.S. Plasma would boil a human alive, not merely cause pain.

30 posted on 03/04/2005 5:46:06 AM PST by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: Hunble

New Scientist is a VERY left-wing science journal. The Register is a VERY left-wing IT website. No surprises here.


31 posted on 03/04/2005 5:47:52 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: NationSoConceived
According to John Wood of University College London, an expert in how the brain perceives pain, both Richardson and Cooper and all those working on the PEP research project should face censure because any weapon resulting from the programme "could be used for torture".

I thought any weapon by definition could already be used for torture. No one looks at a carrot and thinks 'torture'. Well, okay, I guess it is possible to look at a carrot and think 'torture'.
32 posted on 03/04/2005 5:49:03 AM PST by aruanan
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To: NationSoConceived

If we tell these scientist that we accept their moral superiority will they shut up and go away?


33 posted on 03/04/2005 5:53:11 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
New Scientist is a VERY left-wing science journal.

Extremely left wing. An issue from a few months ago actually had a glowing article praising the daughter of Che Guevara, who is 'also' a Medical Doctor in Cuba.

BARF!

34 posted on 03/04/2005 5:54:27 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Sloth
"B.S. Plasma would boil a human alive, not merely cause pain."

Well, the pain WOULD only be TEMPORARY...

35 posted on 03/04/2005 5:55:57 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: NationSoConceived

I suppose that the non lethal pepper spray cartridge which the Boston Police used to (accidently) kill a young co-ed after a Red Sox victory in October would be a better alternative.


36 posted on 03/04/2005 5:57:51 AM PST by Radix (The next time that I find a good Tag Line, I'll be sure to post it here.)
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To: G-Bear; All

Sounds like the Zat Gun.. 1st shot your are paralyzed, 2nd shot you are dead, 3rd shot you are vaporized...


37 posted on 03/04/2005 5:58:57 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: aruanan

"could be used for torture".

So can Barbara Striesand and John Tesh recordings.....what's your point?


38 posted on 03/04/2005 6:08:34 AM PST by Bogtrotter52 (Singin' the blues with a smarmy Irish smile)
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To: azhenfud

"B.S. Plasma would boil a human alive, not merely cause pain."


Stick a fork in 'em, he's done


39 posted on 03/04/2005 6:10:25 AM PST by Bogtrotter52 (Singin' the blues with a smarmy Irish smile)
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To: Bogtrotter52
So can Barbara Striesand and John Tesh recordings.....what's your point?

That the critics' charge that since the weapon could be used for torture meant there was no ethical basis for it being developed was a false distinction because any weapon can be used for torture.
40 posted on 03/04/2005 6:14:34 AM PST by aruanan
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