Posted on 03/03/2005 7:06:57 AM PST by Pokey78
New Hampshire
The other day in the Guardian Martin Kettle wrote: The war was a reckless, provocative, dangerous, lawless piece of unilateral arrogance. But it has nevertheless brought forth a desirable outcome which would not have been achieved at all, or so quickly, by the means that the critics advocated, right though they were in most respects.
Very big of you, pal. And I guess thats as close to a mea culpa as were going to get: even though Bush got everything wrong, it turned out right. Funny how that happens, isnt it? In a few years time, theyll have it down pat just like they have with Eastern Europe. Oh, the Soviet bloc [the Middle East thugocracies] was bound to collapse anyway. Nothing to do with that simpleton Ronnie Raygun [Chimpy Bushitler]. In fact, all Raygun [Chimpy] did was delay the inevitable with his ridiculous arms build-up [illegal unprovoked Halliburton oil-grab], as many of us argued at the time: see my 1984 column Yuri Andropov, The Young, Smart, Sexy New Face Of Soviet Communism [see the April 2004 Spectator column Things Were Better Under Saddam: The coalition has destroyed Baathism, says Rod Liddle, and with it all hopes of the emergence of secular democracy and yes, that really ran in these pages, on 17 April, not 1 April.]
By the way, whens the next Not In Our Name rally? How about this Saturday? Millions of Nionists can flood into Trafalgar Square to proclaim to folks in Iraq and Lebanon and Egypt and Jordan and Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian Authority that all the changes under way in the region are most certainly Not In Their Name. Among the celebrity Nionists, Harold Pinter should be available to denounce Blair as a war criminal and a hired Christian thug one mo time. For as the Guardian reported this week, the great man announced that he has decided to abandon his career as a playwright in order to concentrate exclusively on politics.
Thats great news, isnt it? One of the reasons Mr Pinter was right only in most respects (as Martin Kettle would put it) is that he had to fit being right about everything in between composing 11-minute plays. Now he can devote his energies to it full time Ive no doubt hell be right in all respects.
As for me, I got a lot of things wrong these last three years, but, looking at events in the Middle East this last week, Im glad that, unlike the Nionist Entity, I got the big stuff right. On 8 May 2003, a couple of weeks after the fall of Saddam, I wrote in the Speccies then sister paper the Jerusalem Post:
You dont invade Iraq in order to invade everywhere else, you invade Iraq so you dont have to invade everywhere else.
And so its turned out.
Some of the reasons for starting the remaking of the Middle East in Iraq were obvious within a day or two of 11 September. As I said back then, by his sheer survival, Saddam Hussein had become a symbol of Americas lack of will. As long as he was around, the message to Gaddafi, Arafat, Assad, Mubarak, the House of Saud and the rest of the gang was that we were still in a 10 September world. But the other reasons for starting in Iraq werent all so clear. After the liberation, the doom-mongers dusted down the old Bumper Boys Book of the British Empire and rattled off a zillion pseudo-authoritative backgrounders beginning, Iraq was a new country cobbled together from several former Ottoman provinces, its lines drawn by the Europeans. That was Mark Mazower in the Independent. You get the cut of his jib: phony state, the slapdash creation of the Colonial Office, you can never make it work.
In fact, the artificially cobbled together country is one reason its worked so well. The Shia are the biggest group, but, even if they were utterly homogeneous, which theyre not, theyre not so big that they can impose their will easily on the Kurds and the Sunni. When the Wests headless chickens were running around squawking that there were more than a hundred parties on the ballot, it was all going to be one almighty mess, they failed to understand that the design flaw of Iraq is paradoxically its greatest strength: the traditional Arab solution the local strongman was not available. Instead, in the run-up to the election and in the month since, weve seen various groupings come together, hammer out areas of agreement, reach out to other coalitions, identify compromise positions, etc. in a word, politics. The sight of eight million Iraqis going to the polls was profoundly moving to their neighbours in Syria, Lebanon, Egypt etc. But it was all the pluralist multi-party smoke-filled-room stuff that caught the fancy of the frustrated political class in those other countries. It would have been possible to find a friendly authoritarian Musharraf type and install him on one of Saddams solid gold toilets, but it would have been utterly uninspiring to the world beyond Iraqs borders. It would have missed the point of the exercise.
I can understand why the transnational jet set the EU, the UN, the NGO neo-imperialists, the foreign correspondents for CNN, the BBC and so forth have a preference for strong, centralised states. The State Department was still in favour of keeping the Soviet Union together even after the Soviets had given up on it. Its a pain in the neck to have to update your Rolodex every half-century or so, and when you do, you want to be able to write President-for-Life Sy Kottik, also Defence Minister, Foreign Minister, Oil-for-Food Programme Director, Press Accreditation Supervisor, the one-stop shop for all your government-contacts needs call Baghdad 001. Its a real nuisance to have to pencil in the Kurdish guy, and the Kurdish opposition guy, and the Sunni rejectionist, and the Sunni accommodationist and the secular Shiite and the theocrat Shiite; and thats just for Kirkuk municipal council.
But its grossly condescending to assume that the Iraqi people would share your priorities. All through the worst moments of the insurgency the real horrors in Fallujah, not the second-hand Nissan set alight on the edge of the Green Zone so the herd of foreign correspondents can film it from their hotel balconies all through that darkest period, a few of us insisted that between two thirds and three quarters of Iraq was up and running smoothly with functioning government institutions and nascent political parties. And we were right. Dont take my word for it ask King Abdullah, whos planning to duplicate some of Iraqs political structures in Jordan.
A couple of years back, I went to hear Paul Wolfowitz. I knew him only by reputation the most sinister of all the neocons, the big bad Wolfowitz, the man whose name started with a scary animal and ended Jewishly. In fact, he was a very soft-spoken chap, who compared the challenges of the Middle East with Americas experiments in democracy-spreading after the second world war. He said he thought it would take less time than Japan, and maybe something closer to the 1989 revolutions in Eastern Europe. I would have scoffed, but he knew so many Iraqis by name not just Ahmed Chalabi, but a ton of others.
Around the same time, I bumped into Dominique de Villepin, the French foreign minister and man of letters. He was just back from Egypt, where hed been profoundly moved when hed been asked to convey the gratitude of the Arab people to President Chirac for working so tirelessly to prevent a tragic war between Christianity and Islam. You dont say, I said. And, just as a matter of interest, who asked you to convey that? He hemmed and hawed and eventually said it was President Mubarak. Being a polite sort, I rolled my eyes only metaphorically, but decided as a long-term proposition Id bet Wolfowitzs address book of real people against Villepins hotline to over-the-hill dictators. The lesson of these last weeks is that it turns out Washingtons Zionists know the Arab people a lot better than Europes Arabists.
Islamism, with its plans to destroy America, take back Europe, colonise Australia and set you up with 72 virgins, may be bonkers but its a big idea. And you cant beat it with a small, shrivelled idea like another decade or three of Mubarak or Assad or some such. The Bush administration decided that the only big idea they had to sell was liberty. The Europeans and the Europhile US media mostly scoffed. Theyd been here before. Back in the Cold War, the Americans were able to use the phrase the free world without irony; the French, Germans and even the British never were. This time round, the media assured us that what Iraqis wanted was not freedom but security. They didnt all go as far as Rod Liddle, pining for the smack of firm Saddamite government, but they subscribed to the same general thesis: freedom is some airy-fairy illusion; in Saddams day, the streets were safe and there was no crime, apart from the ones he was committing. All wrong, as wrong as the brutal Afghan winter and all the other media fictions. On 30 January, Bushs big idea squared off against the head-hackers big idea you vote, you die and we know which one the Iraqi people chose, and which the rest of the region, to one degree or another, is following.
Heres another line of mine that looks pretty good this week my claim back in January that this is the most important year in the region since Churchill drew the map of the modern Middle East in 1922. Ill stand on that one. But what Id like to know is this: when Martin Kettle says he and the Nionists were right in most respects, which respects is he thinking of? What exactly did the Nionist Entity get right? That the seething Arab street would rise up? Well, after three and a half years they finally did in Beirut. There never was an Arab street: thats part of the same reductive thinking that leads Dominique de Villepin to pass off some feeble schmoozing from Mubarak as the voice of the Muslim people. The entire concept of the Arab street was lazy and condescending.
With hindsight, the fellow travellers were let off far too easily when the Iron Curtain fell like a discarded burka. Little more than a decade later, they barely hesitated a moment before jumping in on the wrong side of history yet again and this time without the excuse that the ideological virtues of communism had merely gone awry in practice. Its hard to make that argument about Islamism or Baathism, though Rod Liddle gamely gave the latter a whirl. But personally I hope if ever I find myself one of the unfortunate subjects of a totalitarian dictatorship, that its Bush and the Republicans who take up my cause rather than the Left.
The other day I found myself, for the umpteenth time, driving in Vermont behind a Kerry/Edwards supporter whose vehicle also bore the slogan FREE TIBET. It must be great to be the guy with the printing contract for the FREE TIBET stickers. Not so good to be the guy back in Tibet wondering when the freeing thereof will actually get under way. For a while, my otherwise not terribly political wife got extremely irritated by these stickers, demanding to know at a pancake breakfast at the local church what precisely some harmless hippy-dippy old neighbour of ours meant by the slogan hed been proudly displaying decade in, decade out: But what exactly are you doing to free Tibet? she demanded. Youre not doing anything, are you? Give the guy a break, I said back home. Hes advertising his moral virtue, not calling for action. If Rumsfeld were to say, Free Tibet? Jiminy, what a swell idea! The Third Infantry Division go in on Thursday, the bumper-sticker crowd would be aghast.
But for those of us on the arrogant unilateralist side of things, thats not how it works. FREE AFGHANISTAN. Done. FREE IRAQ. Done. Given the paintwork I pull off every time I have to change the sticker, it might be easier for the remainder of the Bush presidency just to go around with FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]. Not in your name? Dont worry, its not.
There is, and you are now on it.
Thanks for posting this incredible Steyn insight.
This in all honesty might be the one I use most in days and years to come.
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Okay, guys, thanks to you both for helping me get to see the first part of this interview!
That was a great hour with Steyn, and I really appreciate the assistance from you!
Another great read....and another thank you for the ping!
another author in agreement with Steyn:
http://www.rightwingnews.com/john/bushiraq.php
Rewriting History To Attack Bush On Iraq
by John Hawkins
If you picked up a paper in the last week or so, you probably got the impression that George Bush spent a year demanding an Iraqi invasion based on claims that Saddam had reconstituted nuclear weapons with uranium bought in Niger. But now that the war is over, we've found out that it was all a lie & there were never any weapons of mass destruction to begin with. So far, nobody has suggested putting Saddam back in power, apologizing, and sending him a fruit basket, but just give them time.
Of course, that wasn't how it actually happened. While the Bush administration certainly talked extensively about weapons of mass destruction, they also continuously discussed Iraq's breaking of UN Resolutions, freedom for the Iraqi people, and Iraq's ties to Al Qaeda & terrorism. But I'm sure many of Bush's critics were too busy screaming about a "war for oil" & "US imperialism" to pay attention to what the Bush administration was actually saying; so we'll have to forgive them.
However, I want to address these claims that Bush lied in the build-up to the Iraq war. So let's take on the big issues, one by one. First off, Bush certainly said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Here's just one of Bush's quotes on the subject,
"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow."
Whoops, I'm sorry! That was actually Bill Clinton in 1998. Gosh, it just sounds so much like what President Bush was saying during the build-up to the Iraqi war that it must have just slipped in. So let's try this again. Here's just one of Bush's quotes on the subject of WMD & Iraq,
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security."
Shoot, I did it again. That's actually Hillary Clinton in October of 2002. How did that get in there?
OK, OK...that's enough shenanigans for one editorial. The point is that there was very little dispute between the GOP & Democrats over whether Hussein had WMD or not.
So why haven't we found them already? Since just about everyone expected to have already run across WMD by now, that's hard to say. But that doesn't mean there never were any WMD in Iraq. After all, we haven't found Saddam yet, but that doesn't mean he didn't exist. Besides, as I said before the war, every sign points to the fact that Iraq had WMD,
"To come to the conclusion that Hussein doesn't have WMD, you have to believe that after the inspectors left in 98, Saddam Hussein destroyed all of his WMD and then decided that he'd lose billions of dollars in oil revenue because of the sanctions rather than tell anyone about it.
Furthermore, Saddam has refused to let his scientists and their families leave the country, defectors have talked about Hussein's WMD, rockets with empty chemical warheads have been found, and the inspectors have actually found artillery shells tipped with mustard gas. So yes, Saddam does have WMD, and to be honest, that has been patently obvious since the Gulf War."
So where are the weapons? They may still be buried in Iraq, or perhaps they were destroyed before the war, given to Syria or terrorists, looted, or some combination thereof. I still believe we will find WMD in Iraq, but we're just going to have to be patient & see what turns up. ..."
LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!
From the back hole of their body... and it goes not only for the chooks, but for the Left "humans" as well. In fact, they sometimes sound like that even when they're not headless.
bttt, love the bumper sticker story...
...such as corrupt multinational institutions, incessant negotiation, and parasitical welfare states. But the adherents of those nostrums are far too sophisticated to fall for such simplistic notions as freedom and representative government. They've defined them out of existence, thank you very much.
With hindsight, the fellow travellers were let off far too easily when the Iron Curtain fell like a discarded burka. Little more than a decade later, they barely hesitated a moment before jumping in on the wrong side of history yet again...
...with the same old illusions, the same moral equivalency and obsessive and accusatory approaches to the nation that had held firm during the Cold War. What is most difficult for even some conservatives to come to grips with is that these people really were rooting for the side that lost and continue to work against the side that won. A war won with so little death is a war that leaves a lot of embittered foes alive and functioning. These are not the friendly opposition, they are inveterate and implacable enemies who wish the worst on us. They are Harold Pinter, Jean Baudrillard, Robert Fisk, Hugo Chavez, and Jose Zapatero, and the entire rotten class of followers of a discredited and evil ideology. In a Hot War they'd have been shot, and had they won the Cold War, they'd have seen to it that we were.
How about FREE HOLLLYWOOD!
I always love a Mark Steyn ping in the evening. Thanks, Meek!
You bet. This is a great one, too. Steyn in full glory.
Bingo! Thank you Mr Steyn..... may I have another?
FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]
I have got to get some stickers made up...
Reading Mark Steyn has become an exercise where I am looking for little gems like this one, that I think and chuckle about all day.
My favorite one to date is when he described Kofi Annan and Jaques Chirac as two men playing a panotmime horse, where both men are the rear end.
If I have another son, I may have to name him Mark.
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