How horrible!
1 posted on
03/02/2005 9:38:53 AM PST by
Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe
The wonderful thing about this is it could be the slippery slope we are looking for. Since it only affects the children of ILLEGAL immigrants, babies born to people here who waited in line for the proper visas would be welcome Americans. So would the babies of tourists. But babies of ILLEGALS would not become citizens.
This may be the first step to get the focus on the word "illegal" again, and might lead to other laws, such as not providing schooling to people who are not residents. And someone here illegally could be determined NOT to be a resident. Cool.
Could you imagine the pregnant illegal, going in to have her baby, and being explained to in Spanish, "This is your obstetrician. He will deliver your baby for free. This here is your pediatrician. He will make sure your baby is healthy, for free. And here is your immigration control officer. He will escort your baby back to Mexico for free."
46 posted on
03/02/2005 9:59:25 AM PST by
Yaelle
To: Happy2BMe
Korean women often "visit" Hawaii or LA in the final weeks of a pregnancy. They stay until the child is born in the States. They then return with a child who can use his US status to avoid compulsory military service in the ROK 18 years later.
47 posted on
03/02/2005 9:59:30 AM PST by
wtc911
("I would like at least to know his name.")
To: Happy2BMe; Lurking Libertarian; Publius6961
""All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside"".
Could it be the argument will be since they are not legally born here, they are not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof"? It says born here AND subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
Just a thought.
To: Happy2BMe
One way to fix this immigration mess would be to get rid of most govt-mandated "social welfare" programs starting with Medicaid and food stamps.
It is ridiculous how corrupt these programs are. Doing away with these regressive and oppressive socialistic schemes for EVERYBODY would go a long way into limiting the number of illegal immigrants (or any for that matter), except the best.
Passing law after law and or erecting barriers on the borders is plainly ineffective.
52 posted on
03/02/2005 10:00:44 AM PST by
eleni121
('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
To: Happy2BMe
Excellent! :-)
53 posted on
03/02/2005 10:01:07 AM PST by
BlessedBeGod
(George W. Bush -- The Terror of the Terrorists)
To: Happy2BMe
Probably won't happen but if it does maybe they will make it retroactive for the past 10 years :o!
To: Happy2BMe
About time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
72 posted on
03/02/2005 10:10:32 AM PST by
DoctorMichael
(The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
To: Happy2BMe
this would be an excellent first step! Having children become citizens at birth is a huge incentive for coming over the board to pop the bun.
73 posted on
03/02/2005 10:10:34 AM PST by
wouldntbprudent
("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
To: Happy2BMe
FINALLY! I was starting to think that Bush would never do anything about this. I am almost surprised he signed it. Now it's time to start sealing the borders.
74 posted on
03/02/2005 10:11:20 AM PST by
Right Wing It
(www.conservativetruths.blogspot.com)
To: Happy2BMe
""Citizenship belongs to a person wherever they are born," said Katherine Cullion, an attorney with the Mexican American Legal Defense Fund, a Latino rights group. "The most basic, fundamental right is the right to citizenship in the country where you were born.""
How about the right of citizens and their duly elected government representatives to determine who receives citizenship and how.
To: Happy2BMe
80 posted on
03/02/2005 10:14:11 AM PST by
Centurion2000
(Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
To: Happy2BMe
And all persons--not just citizens--within our boundaries or subject to our jurisdiction are entitled to the protection of our laws. Even the Romans didn't go that far.
But if the Dums went to, say, effin Iran (I hear they need human shields, Go!) and tried their act there, they'd be dog-meat before sundown.
Just one reason why these US of A make up the greatest country in the history of the world. And our flag rocks too. Why be modest?
90 posted on
03/02/2005 10:20:32 AM PST by
tumblindice
(Our Founding Fathers: all conservative gun owners)
To: Happy2BMe
I'm sure President Bush will come out and give his support to this bilL!
To: Happy2BMe
94 posted on
03/02/2005 10:25:09 AM PST by
TheBattman
(Islam (and liberals)- the cult of Satan)
To: Marine Inspector
98 posted on
03/02/2005 10:29:11 AM PST by
Happy2BMe
(Government is not the solution to our problem, government *IS* the problem.)
To: Happy2BMe
113 posted on
03/02/2005 10:42:28 AM PST by
JustAnotherSavage
("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
To: Happy2BMe
This one ought to be a no-brainer, but it won't be. It will require a bitter battle with the FROBLs and SOILs to get it done.
119 posted on
03/02/2005 10:48:06 AM PST by
Czar
(StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
To: Happy2BMe
If enacted, the bill would stipulate that children born in the United States would be considered American citizens only if born to parents who are citizens or legal residents living in the country.Not a terribly bad idea. I'd oppose changing it any further than that (some have proposed three generations before citizenship), however.
120 posted on
03/02/2005 10:49:00 AM PST by
Kretek
To: Happy2BMe
The bill should be retroactive to at least 1980.
140 posted on
03/02/2005 11:15:27 AM PST by
Cowboy Bob
(Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
To: Happy2BMe
it will be declared unconstitutional
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