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Russia: No System Will Stop New Missiles (
Las Vegas Sun ^ | March 01, 2005 at 17:07:15 PST | STEVE GUTTERMAN

Posted on 03/01/2005 7:07:17 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

MOSCOW (AP) - Russia will develop missiles impervious to any defense, Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov said Tuesday in an apparent allusion the nascent U.S. missile defense system.

A year ago, President Vladimir Putin said Russia could build unrivaled new strategic weapons, and in November he said it is developing a new nuclear missile system unlike any weapon other countries have or could come up with in the near future.

Ivanov suggested the weapons would be based on the mobile version of the Russian Topol-M intercontinental ballistic missiles and on a new sea-based system, the Bulava, according to Interfax news agency.

"There is not and will not be any defense against these missiles," he said, according to Interfax.

The Topol-M can hit targets more than 6,000 miles away, and has been in silos since 1998, with about 40 on duty now, according to military officials. Military officials have said they plan to begin deploying the mobile version this year.

Ivanov said the missiles would be for defense and not be intended for use against any country, but he added that "Russia is stretched across 10 times zones, we have many neighbors, and not all of them are as predictable as European states," according to Interfax.

In December, Putin encouraged the Defense Ministry to keep up production of new strategic missile systems, a process slowed in the past by a shortage of funds.

"Russia will ... remain a major nuclear power," Ivanov said, according to Interfax. "But we will not bake missiles like pies. Their quantity should be such that it allows for the provision of our own security in any potential development of the international situation."

Russia opposed Washington's withdrawal in 2002 from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty in order to deploy a national missile defense shield, saying the 30-year-old U.S.-Soviet pact was a key element of international security.

Russian officials subsequently tempered their criticism. Putin said it was a "mistake" that would hurt global security but not threaten Russia.

The ABM treaty banned missile defense systems on the assumption that the fear of retaliation would prevent each nation from launching a first strike - a strategy known as mutually assured destruction.

The Bush administration has said its prospective missile defense system would be aimed against potential missile threats from nations such as Iraq or North Korea, and would be unable to fend off a massive nuclear strike Russia is capable of launching.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; miltech; missiledefense; missiles; russia
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

they assume they understand our technologies well enough to build such a missile. The damned thing could be stealth and transparent and we could still kill it.


61 posted on 03/01/2005 8:31:49 PM PST by shellshocked
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Weren't we helping them economically a few years ago?
Where did that money go, anyway?


62 posted on 03/01/2005 8:37:19 PM PST by henderson field
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To: SaltyJoe
"Like I said, I don't underestimate the Russians' ability."

I agree...they have some very sharp scientists.

63 posted on 03/01/2005 8:54:54 PM PST by blam
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"The military want a quick solution, so if they knew bin Laden was sipping coffee at a cafe they could get a bomb on target in two hours.'"

Drinking coffee in one spot for two hours...don't think so.

64 posted on 03/01/2005 8:59:28 PM PST by blam
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

First let's make sure the Chinese don't steal the technology, then we'll worry about the Russians.


65 posted on 03/01/2005 9:34:34 PM PST by Terpfen (New Democrat Party motto: les enfant terribles)
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To: ken21
Maybe he is telling us that Russia ( in a veiled threat ) could sell these new nuclear missiles to China ?
66 posted on 03/01/2005 9:55:19 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: SaltyJoe
Who developed a tank that beat the Germans in their own tank warfare tactics?

That would be Walter Christie, an American. The T-34 was a slightly modified Christie design with a French (Hispano-Suiza) diesel engine. The Christie variant that the US made was significantly different because the Army insisted on a number of changes - which turned out to be a really bad idea. Oh well.

67 posted on 03/01/2005 10:22:18 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Shortwave

LOLOLOLOLOL


68 posted on 03/01/2005 10:23:43 PM PST by ServesURight
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To: Norman Bates
No, that's what all the armed forces are for - keeping people with short range ballistic nuclear missiles far, far, far away from here.
69 posted on 03/01/2005 10:24:58 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: conservativeharleyguy

Sorry, the country that made the Fiat under license was Yugoslavia, not Russia. Slight but important difference. The best car the Russians made was the ZIL limousine.


70 posted on 03/01/2005 10:31:18 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: conservativeharleyguy

ROFL!


71 posted on 03/01/2005 10:36:25 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Pffft! Yeah....vast superior russian technology yet they had to wait in lines for days for toilet paper and bread a few years ago......WE'RE SOOOOO SCARED!


72 posted on 03/01/2005 10:52:43 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Shortwave

YESSS! I haven't seen RoboSaurus since the Miramar Airshow back in like '92! I had mixed feelings as I watched him chew up an A-4 Skyhawk, BBQing the remains with his nostril-flames. When he's done, he just folds up and becomes a truck-trailer. Only in AMERICA!


73 posted on 03/01/2005 11:06:44 PM PST by RedQuill
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To: bd476

Don't worry, W.Bush looked into his soul... Many countries are just too naive about Russia.


74 posted on 03/01/2005 11:09:33 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Now why did Russia choose to make a statement today, not sure there is anything new in this ....?"

Rhetorical reiteration.

I'd like to point out that if Vlad's telling the truth, then he had no cause to get upset that president Bush trashed the ABM treaty to work on missile defense, because Russia had to have been working on this wondernuke in violation of the treaty all along. These things don't just pop up out of thin air. He was therefore lying.

75 posted on 03/01/2005 11:22:13 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I don't doubt they can make missiles we can't initially target, but I don't believe it will stay that way.

We are too technically great to not find a way to destroy such weapons once launched.


76 posted on 03/01/2005 11:25:02 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
"Maybe he is telling us that Russia ( in a veiled threat ) could sell these new nuclear missiles to China ?"

And/or Iran?

77 posted on 03/01/2005 11:31:39 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Russia will develop missiles impervious to any defense, Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov said Tuesday

Ha ha ha ha, ha ha ha. They have rotting nuclear submarines that they don't know how to get rid of, and they say they can build this top-notch missle? ha ha ha.


78 posted on 03/01/2005 11:35:20 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: Spktyr
It hit a target outside the atmosphere - it is ICBM capable.

You know who had the first ICBMs?

(Eskimos)

79 posted on 03/01/2005 11:52:11 PM PST by ALASKA (Bring home the media and then take care of the terrorists....................)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

When Putin dies (hopefully not of old age), I want to be in the US delegation, because I want to urinate on the coffin as they drop it into the grave.


80 posted on 03/01/2005 11:55:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, February 20, 2005.)
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