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Net hassles: Fraud may put Internet in not-worth-it mode
Billings Gazette ^ | March 1, 2005 | Jon Van

Posted on 03/01/2005 3:11:14 PM PST by Graybeard58

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1 posted on 03/01/2005 3:11:14 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

The sky is falling!


2 posted on 03/01/2005 3:13:12 PM PST by rocksblues (Liberalism is a sickness not a political ideology)
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To: Graybeard58

Sounds like she was infected with one of those porn dialers that calls to some number in Africa. Wait until she gets the phone bill, she'll want to live like Lincoln in the "Land Of Lincoln".


3 posted on 03/01/2005 3:16:35 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a theory based on conspiracies.)
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To: Graybeard58

Yeah, it's not worth it. I don't think this internet thing will catch on. It'll probably be obsolete in a couple of years.


4 posted on 03/01/2005 3:16:43 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Graybeard58

you know what, I work with morons that click on every little pop up that comes to them, and then they wonder why they get spam emails.

It isn't the internet's fault, its the users and the abusers of it.


5 posted on 03/01/2005 3:17:24 PM PST by MikefromOhio (The DUmmies: Showing us daily how screwed up people can really be!!!!)
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To: Graybeard58

Sounds like the problem is a loose nut behind the keyboard. I wonder how many Citibank emails she's responded to.


7 posted on 03/01/2005 3:21:42 PM PST by sierrahome ( Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular?)
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To: Graybeard58

I hate it when I get misdirected to different web sites. Every time on FR, when I click to read Ms. Dowd's latest wisdom, all I get are pictures of Catherine Zeta-Jones. What's up with that?


8 posted on 03/01/2005 3:22:57 PM PST by Fudd (Never confuse a liberal with facts.)
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Good grief! Use whatever system you want, but get granny a Mac.


9 posted on 03/01/2005 3:23:39 PM PST by D-fendr
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I just don't get it. I use Windows XP, IE 6.0, and just don't have these problems. Of course I also don't visit porn sites and don't click yes on popups; I'm not stupid enough to fall for phishing scams and I don't answer spam. But still, even though I run SpyBot and Ad-Aware weekly, they don't actually ever find anything.

Why is this so complicated, apparently, for so many people? It's just not that hard.


10 posted on 03/01/2005 3:23:58 PM PST by JenB
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And poor Granny in this story never opened one attachment the origin of which she was unaware . . . never used Internet Explorer . . . had her firewall in place at all times . . . updated her virus definitions daily . . . of course she did.

All users do everything they possibly can to keep their PCs safe.

How do I know?

Because they tell me they do.


11 posted on 03/01/2005 3:24:14 PM PST by Xenalyte (Your mother sells hot dogs.)
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Okay, now I've read the entire article and feel qualified to comment.

EVERYONE quoted in the article a) is stupid or b) makes money off fixing stupid people's computers.

Every single mother's child of 'em.


12 posted on 03/01/2005 3:25:57 PM PST by Xenalyte (Your mother sells hot dogs.)
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The best thing for Grannies is to get them a mac. Keeps em' out of trouble without a lot of maintenance.


13 posted on 03/01/2005 3:28:24 PM PST by Odyssey-x
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To: Xenalyte

The problem is non-geeks, like grannies, don't know about that stuff, they use what's on the computer and don't configure anything that's not obvious. Computers are being marketed these days as an appliance, they're not supposed to be much more complicated than a top of the line microwave, you don't need to install a bunch of extra stuff to make your microwave safe.

Now there are good solutions to this within the business, like making firewalls and virus scanners part of default installs, but they're still going to run into problems with the average user just not being technically capable enough to run these things. In the end I think the backbone structure of the internet is going to have to find a way to start clamping down on these things, not sure how that's doable but they're going to need to find a way.


14 posted on 03/01/2005 3:29:20 PM PST by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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My mom could get on and read her email but that was about it. I hope they nail these guys.

My 84 year old mother has had a computer for about 5 years. She keeps up with friends and family with email and she also navigates the net. If it weren't for her adult children who live nearby, she might have a problem. My sisters and their husbands keep it clean for her and up date virus protection, spy ware etc.

Like owning a car, if you don't know how to work on it yourself you'd better have someone you trust do it for you.

15 posted on 03/01/2005 3:30:02 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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I am willing to be that Lipa actually clicked on a couple of those "please remove me from your list" links embedded in the spam mails. My wife, reasonably with it and a computer user for years, almost fell for that one. That one move opens the door to all sorts of problems.


16 posted on 03/01/2005 3:30:52 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Xenalyte
Super sie for tools against hackers, viruses, and spyware.

MAJOR GEEKS/Anti-Virus Tools
17 posted on 03/01/2005 3:31:26 PM PST by John Lenin
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One thing I find frustrating in the Net Industry is people don't want to read.

You can't do business in the virtual world without understanding how the Net works.


18 posted on 03/01/2005 3:31:56 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: F15Eagle

nah ive been back for almost 2 months now.....

I know they are, but it isnt just the old ladies they are looking for...they are looking for the computer illiterate first....


19 posted on 03/01/2005 3:32:25 PM PST by MikefromOhio (The DUmmies: Showing us daily how screwed up people can really be!!!!)
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It isn't the internet's fault, its the users and the abusers of it.

Agreed. Some people just do not deserve to own technology.

"Put the computer back in the box it came in and return it to where you bought it. You are too stupid to own one."

20 posted on 03/01/2005 3:34:21 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you decide to kick the tiger in the ass...you'd better be prepared to deal with the teeth.)
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