[lugsoul]

Well, my question to you was to name one of the "many" states you claim would grant an "automatic" divorce under these circumstances. And I presume that you chose not to respond because you know that there is no such thing, and you were just making it up.

Now, you want a court to assume how Ms. Schiavo would feel and act under these circumstances and take legal action based upon that assumption - exactly the kind of thing so many have criticized the courts for with regard to her feelings about life support.

No, my friend, what you really want is outcome-driven judging. Just what the intellectual left has been arguing in favor of for two decades. And if you get it, the most basic foundations of the common law justice system are gone.

This is one case. It is one person. It may be tragic, but you can't rewrite the entire system to suit your feelings about this case.

[TAdams8591]

The court is going to STARVE this woman to death based on the hearsay of a passing comment (and no documantation). Well, there are also witness(es) who testified that Terri was talking about a divorce, right before her supposed "collapse."

The court cannot have it both ways!!!!!!!

[Hi Heels]

Profound analysis, thank you. Very sad case.

[atruelady]

Wrong, wrong, wrong.


There are plenty of states that grant divorces on the basis of adultery.

Not all states have adopted the "no fault" statutes.

Alsok you don't seem to be able to read the posts, or are deliberately ignoring (for meaningless arguing), to see that all of us in support of Terri are seeking a judge who will READ the petitions/briefs brought before it.

It is the right of every citizen to bring a court petition and the RIGHT to have that petition heard in full.

Greer rejects them without examining one shred of documentation. He has been doing it all along and he and the rest of the death-camp Nazi's say "that matter was already before the court, blah blah blah", knowing full well it wasn't even HEARD. When the appeals work there way up the chain, no one will hear is saying its already been heard. This is one of the biggest crocks of this whole mess!!

You live with your head in the sand.

[Future Useless Eater]

ahh.... but there is just as much heresay testimony that Terri WANTED a divorce, AND most likely told him so that night of her 'accident' ... as there is heresay testimony that she wanted to die instead of having a 'feeding tube'.

...NOW who is unwilling to treat both conditions the same way?

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....other things (to ALL), I have been spelling Brodersen wrong,
....and I stubled upon some old charts we did of glaring differences in court testimony regarding 'the accident'

Documented Terri-vocabulary references
Words	Witness
"mommy" "momma" "help me"	nurse - Heidi Law, certified nurse assistant
"pay"     (meaning 'pain'                 when she was in discomfort) 'Haaaiiiii'   (meaning Hi,                 in response to 'Hi Terri') 'mommy' 'help me'	Nurse - Carla Sauer Iyer, R.N. "'Help me' was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times."
"stop"   (in response to one medical                 procedure being done on her)	Terri's MediPlex records
"ugh-hugh" (meaning yes) "ugh-ugh" (meaning no) "yea" "No"	family members, and paralegal Tom Brodersen* 'yea' was a word she learned to speak in 2002.     *(search for 'Brodersen' half-way down the article)
After Judge Greer heard of Tom Brodersen secretly helping Terri learn to speak again, Greer removed Brodersen from the "approved visitor's list" permanently!




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...THINGS LIKE the FOLLOWING are relevant again, now that DCF is FINALLY starting to do its job!

It seems to me that if a horribly BAD thing happened to MY loved one,
that VERY FIRST MOMENT that I saw her would be PERMANENTLY ETCHED in my brain...



Michael's changing memory of how he found his wife... and and what he DID...
St.Petersburg Police Department:02/25/90 Officer Brewer: Upon arrival, writer spoke with a firefighter/paramedic J.Radjeski. He stated he responded to the address for a medical emergency. They found a subject in question (Theresa) lying face down and unconscious halfway in and halfway out of a bathroom.	p98 of MS Depo Med Mal 07/27/92    2  Q   When you saw her, how was she lying; in other    3  words, on her back or --    4  A   On her back.	M Schiavo Direct Test 01/24/00 p38 17 I ran out into the hall and I found Terri on the   18 floor.  I knelt down next to her and I turned her   19 over because she sort of fell on her face.  On her   20 stomach and face.	CNN LARRY KING LIVE Interview With Michael Schiavo Aired October 27, 2003 - 21:00   ET   SCHIAVO: ... I race out there and Terri was laying in the hall. I went down to get her. I thought, Well, maybe she just tripped or whatever. I rolled her over and she was lifeless. And it almost seems like she had this last breath.

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[sevry]

"automatic" divorce under these circumstances

He has effectively divorced his wife and taken another family. For him to remain married to both is bigamy. While you say he is not married to the latter, clearly it's a common law marriage. Clearly, it's an act of adultery, in any case, which by even older and valid Church standards was a legitimate reason for nullification, and has generally been considered an automatic and unquestioned grounds for divorce in government courts.

[Mr. Silverback]

How would it rewrite the whole system to say that a person no longer deserves the legal rights of the spouse when they stop acting like one, and replace their spouse with a common-law wife? Seems to me it at worst doesn't damage the system, and at best preserves its integrity, because the person who's filling the spousal role is required to be (oh shock, oh shock) a spouse.