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Posted on 02/28/2005 7:08:08 AM PST by floriduh voter
Terri's Freepers,
Judge George Greer denied Terri's parents' Motion for a Stay to protect their daughter's life while there are still pending issues in this LIFE AND DEATH MATTER. In addition the Department of Children and Family Services made a surprise visit to the court hearing the other day and asked Judge Greer if they could approach the bench. Judge Greer denied DCF the opportunity to speak. DCF asked for 60 days to conduct a complete investigation of allegations that have surfaced in the form of a Complaint to their agency.
What was set in motion instead? On Friday, February 25th, Judge Greer REFUSED TO issue another Stay because he was "not comfortable" issuing a say to protect a Ward of the State but instead "set a date certain" (on his calendar at least, not on mine) to BEGIN THE BARBARIC, ANTI-AMERICAN, STARVATION-DEHYDRATION SLOW MURDER OF TERRI.
Attorney Gibbs for Terri's parents held a press conference after J. Greer's order that was so tastefully written to indicate that "he was giving the Schindlers until March 18th so they could "prepare for Last Rites." Attorneys Gibbs called this ruling and prior rulings "Hitler-resque". Indeed.
If Judge Greer wasn't LEGALIZING EUTHANASIA in his courtroom, why any need for Last Rites? Greer's urgency to fulfill this killing places urgency on every one of us to lobby Governor Bush, Florida's House and Florida's Senate.
A Judge in America is ordering the manner of someone's death, a disabled woman who is healthy but needs rehabilitation.
Time is short so we don't really have time to get into Greer's mind to see why he is Florida's Til of the Hun.
What can we do?
1. LOBBY TO SAVE TERRI
2. HELP BUMP THIS THREAD.
3. POST ARTICLES YOU SEE ABOUT TERRI.
4. VISIT PINELLAS COUNTY FLORIDA AND VIGIL WITH US AT HOSPICE WOODSIDE.
5. VISIT TALLAHASSEE AND LOBBY IN THE HALLS OF THE LEGISLATURE.
6. HOLD A DEMONSTRATION AT THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.
7. Join the Message Board that freepers started at the Crystal Cathedral/Hour of Power. TELL YOUR CHURCH ABOUT TERRI.
8. Tell your friends that Terri is alert and aware of her surroundings and to visit www.terrisfight.org to see her videos.
9. PETITIONS. We will gather current Petitions here for you. At this time, you can sign a SAVE TERRI PETITION AT www.renewamerica.us. THERE ARE ALSO IMPEACH GREER PETITIONS ABOUT.
Finally, the Pope has no Living Will. He will be SAFE as long as he stays away from George Greer's courtroom. The Pope is in our thoughts and prayers and he knows of Terri. He wants Terri to be freed from oppression and from a painless death by starvation-dehyration.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO EVERY DAY, THE PAY ISN'T VERY GOOD BUT THE FRINGE BENEFITS ARE THE GREATEST. You are Great Americans and liberty is Terri's and freedom from oppression. Freepers, that is the big payoff if we continue our daunting task.
Terri's family is grateful to you and all of your prayers are being heard by the Giver of Life.
This is Terri's Fight and the battle is enjoined. JOIN US TO SAVE TERRI FROM FORCES THAT HAVE BUT ONE GOAL THAT IS AGAINST EVERYTHING AMERICAN.
GUIDELINES: If you want to start frivolous discussions, please start your own thread in chat.
If you like something from www.theempirejournal.com, please do not post the entire article at Free Republic. Unless I hear otherwise, I believe that we are allowed to post the title and link. TEJ is a great team member of Terri's network. Thanks, TEJ for making a difference and for getting the truth out there.
IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR CONTACT INFO, IT IS ON THE WAY. Thanks, floriduh voter
There has never been any public indication of abuse there to my knowledge.
Greer needs to be disbarred immediately.
No she is part of it.
We can all see it but the corruption and back scratching goes up the chain of command to Crist. It's going to take huge public outcry to make it happen. It would surely be great news if the DCF report implicates him as well.
March 02, 2005
by Salvatore' Antonio
Sessam E. Devas
Jacksonville, Florida | WakeMeUpNews | Much was learned from attending the news conference that was held at 1:30 PM Monday, at the US Courthouse, to take a peek at the future surrounding Terri Schindler-Schiavo’s days and years to come. It was inspiring and had the flavor of a motivational circling of the wagons.
The press conference was organized and held at the request of The Justice Coalition founder Ted Hires, who is also owner of several Sonny's Real Pit Bar-B-Q restaurants. Being a victim of a violent crime, Ted found the criminal justice system worked harder for the criminal than the victim. As a result of Mr. Hires’ experience, he formed the (501C3) nonprofit organization, and is making an effort to reprove the judicial system for the better.
Hires’ team of investigator advocates who defend victims, have moved in recent days to announce the entrance of his Victim's Justice organization to help save Terri Schindler-Schiavo. There were many news reporters and cameras from at least two local TV stations including WJXT-TV4. Approximately 100-125 people attended.
There was an all-star cast of enthusiastic people. In addition to Hires, Terri's mother, father, and brother were there. Bishop Galeone, Bishop of the Diocese of St. Augustine (Jacksonville is in this diocese) attended, along with several other priests, and area clergymen. Two local politicians Don Davis and Jerry Holland attended.
State Senator Stephen Wise gave a report, which appeared to give the crowd a real big boost. He was speaking when I arrived missing the very beginning of his statements, but this developing story seems significant. Wise announced that he is sponsoring a companion bill to that of Rep. Dennis Baxley's HB-0701 (HB stands for House Bill). In a phone call by Wise, to this reporter on February 24th, 2005, he stated he was "personally sponsoring a companion Senate Bill to Baxley's bill and the wording will be the same. It's not filed yet but will be announced soon."
While the House Bill appears to amend Florida Statute (FS) 765, so that receiving food and water via a feeding tube or any method possible would [then] be considered an ordinary means of sustaining life (an essential for life itself; a natural function everyone needs for life), this change would then cause the statute to be in line with state criminal laws which currently prohibit the denial of food, water and nutrition from any person, by intent or neglect. A fault that may have been previously disregarded.
Many following this situation ask: If Judges can order crimes to be committed, why have criminal laws, police, courts and jails? They appear to be on the mark at least with this Judge’s (George Greer) order to perform an act that is expressly prohibited by crime law.
Readers are encouraged to be precisely informed by going to www.myflorida.com and searching for FS 765, reading this short but potentially detrimental set of laws, then reviewing and comparing the proposed changes to it found in the 10 pages of this proposed HB.
When you look to current Florida Criminal Law FS825.102(3), to the Florida Constitution, and the US Congress which long ago adopted the UN Human Rights laws, all concur stating the same -- that denying nutrition from any person is criminal, shall be prosecuted and will not be tolerated.
People will no doubt draw from this event and get mobilized now. Letters, e-mails and phone calls to all state representatives, state senators, Governor Bush and Attorney General Crist undoubtedly will continue to keep flowing with intensity.
The question rising from the core of this issue, is whether causing a person’s death by denying them any one of the three basic essentials for life -- food, water and air -- is permitted by man or only by natural course (some say God) and is the taking away of life the killing of that person? Even without religion, for us all, the law does say -- Thou Shalt Not Kill.
Several other initiatives were mentioned on the courthouse steps. A request is being made to the Governor and the Attorney General for an investigation into the circumstances of Terri's injuries. Some in law enforcement continue to suggest that any pertinent statute of limitations have run out on bringing criminal charges. Has the statute of limitations on all crimes against Terri really run out? That would seem to imply that there was a crime or multiple crimes in the past with nothing on-going. This misconception is one that the media seems to play to the hilt or completely ignores. Those who have done the research as well as lodged complaints know otherwise.
The Schindler's, along with hundreds of thousands of other people who are flooding the system with verbal and written inquiry, appear to be asking the same question of law enforcement -- Exactly on what date did the crime[s] happen they infer were committed upon Terri Schindler-Schiavo? And why did they not act to protect their daughter from more of the same?
With law enforcement consistently inferring that statute of limitations have run out, even though not being specific to which crimes were committed and when, this admission to thousands who complain by phone, may be one of the items which the DCF Attorney and the Governor are interested and show their concern, especially since it appears that law enforcement has been sitting on this and not seeking prosecution. Who has been ordering the fix?
That brings questions of whether departments and agencies of state are complicit and participants in abuse. However, this Governor, now with DCF, seems committed to getting to the bottom of the reported breakdowns and the seeming criminal blockade by those who may have abused their positions, to facilitate this extrajudicial execution. The public that says they have done the digging claims state attorneys say local law enforcement has brought them nothing. Local law enforcement tells the public that the state attorney says not to take complaints or investigate anything surrounding anyone involved with those who seek her death. Witnesses to these occurrences have reportedly turned this information over to public officials as early as October of 2002.
By getting to the truth and prosecuting any public officials who may be found to have participated in any criminal victimization of Theresa Marie Schiavo, this Governor will certainly be living up to his Campaign Slogan -- Champion of the Disabled.
This is one of many points being advanced in the suits the Schindler's and their growing numbers of attorneys from around the country bring to the Governor and file in the courts. One of their objectives is removing Michael as guardian. Governor Bush, it is becoming clear, wants to know with certainty whether Terri Schindler-Schiavo is the victim of abuse, by many, and across many sets of hands.
DCF is investigating. The Schindler's attorneys are asking that DCF place Terri under protective custody of the state. They are also trying to get Judge Greer removed, plus a new initiative seeks a divorce for Terri due to the admissions of the Guardian Living in Open Adultery in violation of Florida Crime Law FS798 as is thoroughly documented to be by open admission. Some of this may work. But it appears the Judges will have to be forced to follow the laws, as Terri's Judge seems to have bunkered himself against.
The question now seems to be: How long will the "20 Judges" of the Circuit, District and Supreme Courts, that Attorney George J. Felos frequently states in court and to the press "as concurring with" the Greer court's 'civil judicial death warrant' continue in carte blanche complicit support?
The actions of the Governor of late appear to have also brought a renewed confidence in disabled people and the Disability Advocacy Community. The effect has given energy and hope that the disabled's complaints of discrimination in services and uninvestigated occurrences of criminal abuse, neglect and exploitation of them, by those who take advantage of their disabilities, is finally going to be addressed by this administration and Legislature to the fullest extent of the law and to the fullest extent of their resolve.
Disabled persons and their advocates appear more motivated and vocal than ever before with confidence in their Governor, to stand up to the threat they perceive will result from a disastrous and improper outcome for Terri. The precedent they say, could spell the deliberate and legally caused deaths of hundreds in their community, even while criminal law currently on the books prohibit the same. Disability advocates say that the next step by the new form of genocide, will be to eliminate the criminal laws that protect vulnerable elderly persons and disabled adults, to which they are set against.
For more info about the controversy surrounding Judge Greer, the appearance of gross improprieties and violations of law, and to view his Campaign TV commercial which used government personnel and property provided by those who may be blocking the criminal investigations, you can go to the NY newspaper: www.theempirejournal.com -- and also visit Terri Schindler-Schiavo's parent’s website www.terrisfight.org for documents and video of Terri. There are now tens of thousands of other websites and a uniquely constructed and growing network of over 200 linked blogs www.blogsforterri.com posting information, public documents and links to even more related topics and issues. Additionally, Internet browsers merely need to type in the name Terri Schiavo or Terri Schindler in Google and hit GO!
Permission is granted by the authors Salvatore' Antonio: Asalva1526@aol.com and Sessam E. Devas: WakeMeUpNews@aol.com for purpose of reprint, copy and distribution in other places of this article when done in complete form to which copyright protection is claimed (c)2005. This permission statement must be included in any reprints.
FV SAYS: ON MY TV RIGHT NOW!!! DCF's NEW SECRETARY LUCY HADI IS ON www.baynews9.com Tiger Bay Luncheon. There will be a q & a after she talks. She's going to talk about the good re: DCF and the bad re: DCF. I HOPE SOMEBODY ASKS A QUESTION ABOUT TERRI! Luncheon is on now.
(I don't know if www.baynews9.com is going to cover the MEDIA MOTION TO UNSEAL THE DCF FILE later today. Coincidence that Secretary Hadi is here the day of the DCF file hearing... Lucy Hadi says the DCF needs a "culture change"...wants to change the reputation that is that there is a "lack of responsiveness"... "That has to change and it will." Lucy Hadi, DCF Secretary recently appointed by Jeb Bush.
I hope that DCF's New Secretary is going to BEGIN REPAIRING DCF'S REPUTATION WITH TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO. Wouldn't that be great? She's on www.baynews9.com right now at a local Tiger Bay Luncheon. Save Terri, FIX DCF a one two punch for the "taxpayers" as Secretary Hadi has just referred to Floridians. (Suncoast Tiger Bay Luncheon is being held at the Vinoy Golf Club in St. Petersburg, FL).
re: Life and death, something to this effect: Getting it right the first time is the only way to do it. Sec. Hadi.
Then why didn't they do so? I don't get it. Anyway, Florida authorities better get their rear-ends in gear and take Terri into protective custody before it's too late.
all your posts are great.
Coast to Coast did get some Terri calls last night. BY THE WAY, AT APPROXIMATELY 2:00 am est, A GIANT SINKHOLE THE SIZE OF A FOOTBALL FIELD OPENED UP IN LAKELAND, FLORIDA, home of the 2nd DCA.
As I understand it, the Republican Assemblies are like a club or sponsored group - and yes they are under the Republican Party. That is my understanding. Republican Assemblies are conservative - also called "the conscience of the Republican Party" or "the Republican wing of the Republican Party". Unfortunately, I don't think they have much power. President Reagan is their hero . . . and mine.
Greer will never voluntarily allow another judge to step in. Greer will have to be forced to step aside. What a monster!!
Remember the other side reads these posts too. Thanks, FV
What if Father Murphy had a change of heart after the Pope's statement from March 2004 wherein I recall the Pope mentioned Terri by name. Change of heart, a witness changes his testimony. Accident? Who am I to say but he can't change his testimony now.
Then why didn't they do so? I don't get it. Anyway, Florida authorities better get their rear-ends in gear and take Terri into protective custody before it's too late.
I wonder too SaundraD !! They had BETTER move and do something now, because this will backfire , if ever the truth gets out and they DIDN'T DO THEIR JOB!!!!!!!!!
I sent Greer a nasty message yesterday telling him he was a nazi.
Here is what I sent:
Hey Greer, check out this link.
http://www.theempirejournal.com/22105002_pattern_of_alleged_coll.htm
Seems to me you have been in collusion with Felos, Bushnell, et al in the
past... promoting your love for the culture of death. The Empire Journal has a
whole slew of your criminal actions from the bench.
You refusal to ask why Terri has been in a hopsice for 3 years when she isn't
and never was dying is criminally reprehensible.
The conflicts of interest and your refusal to read briefs in this matter is
staggering. You are a nazi! You should be in jail!
You are sick. You rule in dictator fashion from the bench violating statutes
and laws in place to PROTECT people like Terri Schiavo. No guardian ad litem?
No evidence allowed in your court? You are a monster!
Your collusion is now in the open. The only thing you have to ask yourself is,
in addition to everything else illegal you have done, do you want a murder
charge added to that as well? I certainly have no problem calling you a
murderer. The only thing that makes it worse for you, is you are a judge, and
a sorry one at that.
God have mercy on your soul, your're going to need it.
Carla
Bradenton
copy of this message to the following:
George W. Bush
Gov. Jeb Bush, Florida
Chief Justice Demers
Florida State Attorney General
Florida Dept of DCF
State of Florida Legislature (entire list)
Felos, Bushnell, et al
BAD BOYS, BAD BOYS, WHAT YOU GONNA DO? WHAT YOU GONNA DO WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU?
We need to have a ongoing prayer chain for this hearing. I will take 3 hours. 9-10PST tonight,5-6amPST tomorrow, and 10:30-11:30am tomorrow. Anyone else want to join in interceding for Terri and this hearing??
If the world "hates America", well, what's being done to Terri would give them cause to hate America.
Florida is a rat hole until Terri is safe.
I urge all of you to find renewal and inspiration by reading as many of the comments and locations from those who have signed "judge" Greer's impeachment petition. It's awesome! SO many from Poland .. that's amazing .. there must be a movement afoot in Poland .. God knows how it started .. but it's there. Posters from Australia, Nigeria .. read the comments, and go there often to see the new additions. AND PLEASE GET THE WORD OUT .. SEND PEOPLE THERE TO SIGN IT AND MAKE THEIR COMMENTS. WE NEED MORE SIGNATURES ON THE PETITION .. A SHOW OF FORCE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS. It'll do your heart, your spirit and hope good to just read what's in the hearts of people who care about the sanctity of life.
Prayers for Terri!!! Fight, Terri, fight on!!
TIGER BAY DCF PRESS CONFERENCE ON NOW: DCF SECRETARY LUCY HADI GETS DCF SCHIAVO QUESTION? Is there any substance to these allegations or is the legislature shameful? Lucy: Mr. Wilson, I hope you wouldn't suggest that fulfilling our statutory requirement to investigate abuse and neglect is manipulation. CROWD LAUGHS. "Without specific regard to the Petition, our request was to have adequate time to do a thorough review of the case. It is not that we took the matters of substance to court... we haven't made the determination yet. The process is... an abuse hot line in Florida for children and adult abuse. When we receive an allegation of abuse, if it has critical mass and merits an investigation, it is based on experience and training in the law, in this case, local staff in this area. specialized assistance to our staff in making judgment. medical, clinical issues, ALLEGED FINANCIAL EXPLOITATION OF THE GUARDIAN, a forensic accountant, etc. We would do that whether it's this case or another."
THE QUESTION WAS BY a REPORTER WILSON WHO WAS TRYING TO ALLEGE THAT JEB BUSH WAS USING DCF TO INTERFERE IN THE SCHIAVO MATTER. THE NERVE, THE GAUL. I don't have reporter Wilson's first name. www.baynews9.com
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