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TERRI SCHIAVO MARCH 2005 DAILIES Fla's Til of the Hun Sets March Date to Starve Terri
Terri's Fight, The Empire Journal, World Net Daily, Life News ^ | February 28, 2005 | floriduh voter

Posted on 02/28/2005 7:08:08 AM PST by floriduh voter

Terri's Freepers,

Judge George Greer denied Terri's parents' Motion for a Stay to protect their daughter's life while there are still pending issues in this LIFE AND DEATH MATTER. In addition the Department of Children and Family Services made a surprise visit to the court hearing the other day and asked Judge Greer if they could approach the bench. Judge Greer denied DCF the opportunity to speak. DCF asked for 60 days to conduct a complete investigation of allegations that have surfaced in the form of a Complaint to their agency.

What was set in motion instead? On Friday, February 25th, Judge Greer REFUSED TO issue another Stay because he was "not comfortable" issuing a say to protect a Ward of the State but instead "set a date certain" (on his calendar at least, not on mine) to BEGIN THE BARBARIC, ANTI-AMERICAN, STARVATION-DEHYDRATION SLOW MURDER OF TERRI.

Attorney Gibbs for Terri's parents held a press conference after J. Greer's order that was so tastefully written to indicate that "he was giving the Schindlers until March 18th so they could "prepare for Last Rites." Attorneys Gibbs called this ruling and prior rulings "Hitler-resque". Indeed.

If Judge Greer wasn't LEGALIZING EUTHANASIA in his courtroom, why any need for Last Rites? Greer's urgency to fulfill this killing places urgency on every one of us to lobby Governor Bush, Florida's House and Florida's Senate.

A Judge in America is ordering the manner of someone's death, a disabled woman who is healthy but needs rehabilitation.

Time is short so we don't really have time to get into Greer's mind to see why he is Florida's Til of the Hun.

What can we do?

1. LOBBY TO SAVE TERRI

2. HELP BUMP THIS THREAD.

3. POST ARTICLES YOU SEE ABOUT TERRI.

4. VISIT PINELLAS COUNTY FLORIDA AND VIGIL WITH US AT HOSPICE WOODSIDE.

5. VISIT TALLAHASSEE AND LOBBY IN THE HALLS OF THE LEGISLATURE.

6. HOLD A DEMONSTRATION AT THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.

7. Join the Message Board that freepers started at the Crystal Cathedral/Hour of Power. TELL YOUR CHURCH ABOUT TERRI.

8. Tell your friends that Terri is alert and aware of her surroundings and to visit www.terrisfight.org to see her videos.

9. PETITIONS. We will gather current Petitions here for you. At this time, you can sign a SAVE TERRI PETITION AT www.renewamerica.us. THERE ARE ALSO IMPEACH GREER PETITIONS ABOUT.

Finally, the Pope has no Living Will. He will be SAFE as long as he stays away from George Greer's courtroom. The Pope is in our thoughts and prayers and he knows of Terri. He wants Terri to be freed from oppression and from a painless death by starvation-dehyration.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO EVERY DAY, THE PAY ISN'T VERY GOOD BUT THE FRINGE BENEFITS ARE THE GREATEST. You are Great Americans and liberty is Terri's and freedom from oppression. Freepers, that is the big payoff if we continue our daunting task.

Terri's family is grateful to you and all of your prayers are being heard by the Giver of Life.

This is Terri's Fight and the battle is enjoined. JOIN US TO SAVE TERRI FROM FORCES THAT HAVE BUT ONE GOAL THAT IS AGAINST EVERYTHING AMERICAN.

GUIDELINES: If you want to start frivolous discussions, please start your own thread in chat.

If you like something from www.theempirejournal.com, please do not post the entire article at Free Republic. Unless I hear otherwise, I believe that we are allowed to post the title and link. TEJ is a great team member of Terri's network. Thanks, TEJ for making a difference and for getting the truth out there.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR CONTACT INFO, IT IS ON THE WAY. Thanks, floriduh voter


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To: Chocolate Rose

I think I need a nap--Didn't mean to post the whole article.--I meant only the part --Do not waste time by trying again to interfere in the Terri Schiavo case.--


3,281 posted on 03/08/2005 12:24:30 PM PST by Chocolate Rose (FOR HONEST NEWS REPORTING GET THE SCOOP HERE : www.theEmpireJournal.com/)
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To: Chocolate Rose; All
Read this for a taste of the brutal reality that results from starvation and dehydration AND PASS IT ON TO EVERYONE YOU CAN!:

A Painless Death?

Excerpt:

" Yes, it is true that when people are actively dying from terminal disease, they often refuse food and water. The disease makes the food and water repulsive to them. In such circumstances, it is medically inappropriate to force food and water into a person who is actively rejecting it. Indeed, doing so could cause suffering.

But this isn't what is happening to Terri. She isn't dying of cancer. Her body isn't shutting down as part of the natural dying process. Indeed, she is not dying at all--unless her food and water is taken away.

".........A conscious [cognitively disabled] person would feel it just as you or I would. They will go into seizures. Their skin cracks, their tongue cracks, their lips crack. They may have nosebleeds because of the drying of the mucus membranes, and heaving and vomiting might ensue because of the drying out of the stomach lining. They feel the pangs of hunger and thirst. Imagine going one day without a glass of water! Death by dehydration takes ten to fourteen days. It is an extremely agonizing death.

" " ........... After seven to nine days [from commencing dehydration] they begin to lose all fluids in the body, a lot of fluids in the body. And their blood pressure starts to go down. When their blood pressure goes down, their heart rate goes up. . . . Their respiration may increase and then . . . the blood is shunted to the central part of the body from the periphery of the body. So, that usually two to three days prior to death, sometimes four days, the hands and the feet become extremely cold.

They become mottled. That is you look at the hands and they have a bluish appearance. And the mouth dries a great deal, and the eyes dry a great deal and other parts of the body become mottled. And that is because the blood is now so low in the system it's shunted to the heart and other visceral organs and away from the periphery of the body . . ."

"MOST OF THE TIME, we never know for sure what a starved or dehydrated person experiences. But in at least one case--that of a young woman who had her tube feeding stopped for eight days and lived to tell the tale--we have direct evidence of the agony that forced dehydration may cause.

At age 33, Kate Adamson collapsed from a devastating and incapacitating stroke. She was utterly unresponsive and was diagnosed as being in a persistent vegetative state (PVS). Because of a bowel obstruction she developed, her nourishment was stopped so that doctors could perform surgery.

Adamson eventually recovered sufficiently to author "Kate's Journey: Triumph Over Adversity," in which she tells the terrifying tale. Rather than being unconscious with no chance of recovery as her doctors believed, she was actually awake and aware but unable to move any part of her body voluntarily. (This is known as a "locked-in state.") When she appeared recently on "The O'Reilly Factor," host Bill O'Reilly asked Adamson about the dehydration experience:

O'REILLY: When they took the feeding tube out, what went through your mind?

ADAMSON: When the feeding tube was turned off for eight days, I thought I was going insane. I was screaming out in my mind, "Don't you know I need to eat?" And even up until that point, I had been having a bagful of Ensure as my nourishment that was going through the feeding tube. At that point, it sounded pretty good. I just wanted something. The fact that I had nothing, the hunger pains overrode every thought I had.

O'REILLY: So you were feeling pain when they removed your tube?

ADAMSON: Yes. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. To say that--especially when Michael [Schiavo] on national TV mentioned last week that it's a pretty painless thing to have the feeding tube removed--it is the exact opposite. It was sheer torture, Bill.

O'REILLY: It's just amazing.

ADAMSON: Sheer torture .

Read the rest of the article at the link.

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PRAYERS FOR TERRI AND HER DEVOTED, LONG-SUFFERING FAMILY... AND THAT THE FLORIDA AUTHORITIES TAKE ACTION NOW TO SAVE HER LIFE!"

3,282 posted on 03/08/2005 12:30:10 PM PST by STARWISE (JUDGE GEORGE GREER'S CREDO: LAST RITES INSTEAD OF CIVIL RIGHTS. Greed & Greer KILL!)
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To: pc93

I just called Sarbanes and Mikulski and they say THEIR OFFICES ARE GETTING VERY FEW CALLS! MARYLAND FREEPERS, FLOOD SARBANES AND MIKULSKI NOW!


3,283 posted on 03/08/2005 12:54:42 PM PST by freepertoo
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To: All; Scoop 1; phenn; pc93; Ohioan from Florida; floriduh voter; Republic; Wampus SC; FL_engineer; ..

World Net Daily

Federal bill introduced to save Terri Schiavo
Measure gives incapacitated same due process as condemned inmates

March 8, 2005
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43205

Excerpts:

Two Republican lawmakers from Florida introduced legislation in Congress today they hope will save the life of Terri Schiavo, the brain-damaged woman whose parents are battling a court order to remove her life-sustaining feeding tube.

Sen. Mel Martinez and Rep. David Weldon say the Incapacitated Person's Legal Protection Act will give Schiavo, and others in similar situations, the same constitutional protection of due process as death-row inmates.

Current law leaves the rights of disabled persons at the mercy of courts instead of the Constitution, the lawmakers argue.

The new measure would not apply to cases in which an advance medical directive is in effect.


3,284 posted on 03/08/2005 12:57:28 PM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org & www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: amdgmary
The new measure would not apply to cases in which an advance medical directive is in effect.

Does this exclude Terri?

3,285 posted on 03/08/2005 1:01:41 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: Lovergirl
Perhaps someone from your area plans to go down too. I think a thread asking freepers, if they plan to go down to Florida is appropriate.

Maybe we could find out, which area of the country they will be leaving from, what dates they plan to be in Florida for. Maybe select one of the hotels that Cheryl Ford has given us for Freepers that are going. Perhaps get Cheryl involved to help us if enough freepers get involved. She could help us with the best places to park and such.

If the freepers selected one or two hotels, the Freepers that drove could easily share a ride to the rallys with those who flew or took the bus.

I know that a few freepers are thinking about going. Maybe we need to start organizing a Freeper group.
3,286 posted on 03/08/2005 1:03:16 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: DJ MacWoW
"The new measure would not apply to cases in which an advance medical directive is in effect." "Does this exclude Terri?" This does not exclude Terri since Terri never had an advanced directive.
3,287 posted on 03/08/2005 1:20:36 PM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org & www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: eeevil conservative

I think most people here agree with you. I definitely see this as the first step to killing those not deemed to be worthy.

I think there was a reason for picking Terri to make their stand. She is not PVS as evident on the videotapes, but they keep telling us she is. She did not have a written directive as the law requires. In other words, they can go after anyone they deem unworthy and the public will allow it.


3,288 posted on 03/08/2005 1:22:24 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: amdgmary
This does not exclude Terri since Terri never had an advanced directive.

*sigh of relief*

3,289 posted on 03/08/2005 1:25:16 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: tutstar

My God under these circumstances I can hardly believe that only 4355 signatures have been gathered against this Judicial out of control tyrant. What is WRONG with the people of Florida? Do they not understand the FUTURE CONSEQUENCES of these men's actions? I think not. But I'll say that Jeb Bush most certainly SHOULD. As each day passes, I'm getting angrier and angrier at the Governor. He has A DUTY to step into this and TAKE CONTROL from these MURDERERS AND THIEVES.


3,290 posted on 03/08/2005 1:38:11 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South !)
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To: DJ MacWoW

So tied here in France.

It is now 10:30 a night and we had a very busy day on the Farm.

I know at this very moment that Judge J*rk Off Greer is hearing motions, especially feeding Teri by mouth should the feeding tube be removed.

I cna't stay up any longer. I ask all Freepers to post everythign pertinent that happened in court today here on these threads.

It is the first thing I to race to in the morning to check. So please post all news, so that I can see it when I get up in the a.m.

Praying Hard from France
EFF

One last appeal- CALL your Federal Representatives and ask them to support legislation that will benefit terri.

Doesn't matter if you live in Florida or not, call the Leader of the Senat and tell him to get behind legislation to benefit Terri.

Heck I even called from France. They are jsut keeping track of how many calls they get, so Call, wait a bit and then... well you know.... Call again :))

!!!!!!!!!!!!!FREEP THE FLORIDUH LEGISLATURE!!!!!!!!!!


3,291 posted on 03/08/2005 1:44:45 PM PST by ExPatInFrance (JUDGE GREER: LAST RITES INSTEAD OF CIVIL RIGHTS, "The Law of the case is she is going to Die!")
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To: Canadian Outrage

Aye


3,292 posted on 03/08/2005 1:46:28 PM PST by pc93 (http://www.blogsforterri.com)
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To: ruoflaw

Yes, Greer appointed Wolfson and then ignored his "findings," which were neither favorable nor unfavorable to Terri.


3,293 posted on 03/08/2005 1:50:58 PM PST by Theodore R. (Terri has already outlived Eleanor Centzone.)
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To: eeevil conservative
He seems to think it is unhealthy for me to be so consumed over this...

Many churches are now sadly mere businesses spending the bulk of their time on entertainment and socials and passing the collection plate to fund often esoteric activities. Things like Terri's fight divide them, and they do not like division within the ranks? It affects the collections.

3,294 posted on 03/08/2005 1:53:43 PM PST by Theodore R. (Terri has already outlived Eleanor Centzone.)
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To: Chocolate Rose
"In a hearing to consider a variety of motions Monday, Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer did not decide immediately on the request to feed Schiavo. Such requests, however, have previously been denied."

I think Judge Greer knows he has to be careful with this motion. If he refuses to allow Terri to be fed orally, then he is going above the law. This was one of the arguments in Gordon Watts brief. In effect he will not be able to hide behind the law and he will be known as Terri's murderer.

If he rules that she can be fed orally, then he is basically admitting that she is not PVS and can perform simple tasks.

Either way his goose is cooked. If he was smart he would allow the DCF to do their job and then claim he didn't know Michael was abusing Terri and appoint Terri's brother as her guardian.

He evidently intends to keep Michael as guardian since he has reiterated his support for Michael to cremate Terri and has already denied many of the Schindler motions.

Since Judge Greer seems to be entrenched on the side of evil, Terri's best hope may be with the legislature or the 2nd District Court.
3,295 posted on 03/08/2005 1:54:16 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: Halls

"If Terri is supposedly brain dead like Felos has convinced judge Greer of that, than why would he say that feeding Terri via the mouth could result in a painful death??? If she is brain dead than how would she even feel it FELOS??? He is arguing the exact opposite of what he says is supposedly true! How does Greer not get this?"

Good point.


3,296 posted on 03/08/2005 1:56:47 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: ExPatInFrance
I can't stay up any longer.

Be easy and sleep well knowing that HE, the One who loves our souls, holds all in His hands.

3,298 posted on 03/08/2005 1:57:57 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: tutstar

Yes they should tutstar. The Christians bear the most responsibility here. Dr. Kennedy's church (and it's huge) should be on the front lines along with many many others. It shouldn't not be any one denomination, just Christians and others who are morally opposed to blatant murder.
I recall being under attack a few years ago. It was a situation where I was being blamed absolutely without cause. The Lord gave me a Scripture which I prayed daily over my situation. It was Psalm 35 - the entire psalm. It certainly delivered me and caused my enemies to be brought to shame. The couldn't do anything right. They tripped themselves up continually. They ended up looking as fools. It is a great scripture.


3,299 posted on 03/08/2005 1:58:13 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South !)
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To: Saundra Duffy

"Talked to my friend, a nurse. She is horrified about the condition of Terri's arms and hands. I said that's because she hasn't had rehab or therapy. She said that keeping the arms and hands from curling up like that has nothing to do with rehab or therapy. IT'S A MATTER OF GENERAL MEDICAL CARE!!!!!!!"

Your friend made excellent points!


3,300 posted on 03/08/2005 2:01:50 PM PST by FR_addict
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