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TERRI SCHIAVO MARCH 2005 DAILIES Fla's Til of the Hun Sets March Date to Starve Terri
Terri's Fight, The Empire Journal, World Net Daily, Life News ^ | February 28, 2005 | floriduh voter

Posted on 02/28/2005 7:08:08 AM PST by floriduh voter

Terri's Freepers,

Judge George Greer denied Terri's parents' Motion for a Stay to protect their daughter's life while there are still pending issues in this LIFE AND DEATH MATTER. In addition the Department of Children and Family Services made a surprise visit to the court hearing the other day and asked Judge Greer if they could approach the bench. Judge Greer denied DCF the opportunity to speak. DCF asked for 60 days to conduct a complete investigation of allegations that have surfaced in the form of a Complaint to their agency.

What was set in motion instead? On Friday, February 25th, Judge Greer REFUSED TO issue another Stay because he was "not comfortable" issuing a say to protect a Ward of the State but instead "set a date certain" (on his calendar at least, not on mine) to BEGIN THE BARBARIC, ANTI-AMERICAN, STARVATION-DEHYDRATION SLOW MURDER OF TERRI.

Attorney Gibbs for Terri's parents held a press conference after J. Greer's order that was so tastefully written to indicate that "he was giving the Schindlers until March 18th so they could "prepare for Last Rites." Attorneys Gibbs called this ruling and prior rulings "Hitler-resque". Indeed.

If Judge Greer wasn't LEGALIZING EUTHANASIA in his courtroom, why any need for Last Rites? Greer's urgency to fulfill this killing places urgency on every one of us to lobby Governor Bush, Florida's House and Florida's Senate.

A Judge in America is ordering the manner of someone's death, a disabled woman who is healthy but needs rehabilitation.

Time is short so we don't really have time to get into Greer's mind to see why he is Florida's Til of the Hun.

What can we do?

1. LOBBY TO SAVE TERRI

2. HELP BUMP THIS THREAD.

3. POST ARTICLES YOU SEE ABOUT TERRI.

4. VISIT PINELLAS COUNTY FLORIDA AND VIGIL WITH US AT HOSPICE WOODSIDE.

5. VISIT TALLAHASSEE AND LOBBY IN THE HALLS OF THE LEGISLATURE.

6. HOLD A DEMONSTRATION AT THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.

7. Join the Message Board that freepers started at the Crystal Cathedral/Hour of Power. TELL YOUR CHURCH ABOUT TERRI.

8. Tell your friends that Terri is alert and aware of her surroundings and to visit www.terrisfight.org to see her videos.

9. PETITIONS. We will gather current Petitions here for you. At this time, you can sign a SAVE TERRI PETITION AT www.renewamerica.us. THERE ARE ALSO IMPEACH GREER PETITIONS ABOUT.

Finally, the Pope has no Living Will. He will be SAFE as long as he stays away from George Greer's courtroom. The Pope is in our thoughts and prayers and he knows of Terri. He wants Terri to be freed from oppression and from a painless death by starvation-dehyration.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO EVERY DAY, THE PAY ISN'T VERY GOOD BUT THE FRINGE BENEFITS ARE THE GREATEST. You are Great Americans and liberty is Terri's and freedom from oppression. Freepers, that is the big payoff if we continue our daunting task.

Terri's family is grateful to you and all of your prayers are being heard by the Giver of Life.

This is Terri's Fight and the battle is enjoined. JOIN US TO SAVE TERRI FROM FORCES THAT HAVE BUT ONE GOAL THAT IS AGAINST EVERYTHING AMERICAN.

GUIDELINES: If you want to start frivolous discussions, please start your own thread in chat.

If you like something from www.theempirejournal.com, please do not post the entire article at Free Republic. Unless I hear otherwise, I believe that we are allowed to post the title and link. TEJ is a great team member of Terri's network. Thanks, TEJ for making a difference and for getting the truth out there.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR CONTACT INFO, IT IS ON THE WAY. Thanks, floriduh voter


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrisfight
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To: floriduh voter; All
In reference to the testimony regarding the Quinlan case here is some interesting info from St. Petersburg Times November 8, 2003

(excerpt) Mrs. Schiavo's parents fought back. Her mother, Mary Schindler, said she discussed with her daughter the famous right-to-die case of Karen Ann Quinlan, back when the legal fight to take Quinlan off a ventilator was front-page news.

"If they take her off, she might die. Just leave her alone and she will die whenever," she said her daughter told her.

Felos introduced newspaper stories showing that the Quinlan case was front-page news when Terri Schiavo was 11 or 12 years old.

Mrs. Schiavo's former friend, Diane Meyer, recalled watching a movie about Quinlan in the summer of 1982 after they graduated high school.

"I remember one of the things she said is, 'How did they know she would want this? How did they know she wouldn't want to go on?' " Meyer testified.

Read Full Article

According to the petition that Attorney Gibbs has filed, Judge Greer discounted Diane Meyer's testimony about the 1982 conversation because she referred to Karen Quinlan in the present tense and he felt, therefore, that the conversation must have occured in the 1970s. However, Karen Quinlan actually died in 1985 and it was entirely appropriate for Diane Meyer to state her testimony in the present tense because when their conversation occurred in 1982 Karen Quinlan was still alive. I think this is a huge find because it shoots a very large hole in the "clear and convincing evidence" standard that all the courts have upheld.
1,921 posted on 03/04/2005 3:15:28 PM PST by mommy23
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To: All

The document in post 1911 repeatedly states that "the court has found" which sounds like Felos is trying to blame the court for everything. Someone else needs to read this to see if I'm misunderstanding.


1,922 posted on 03/04/2005 3:21:40 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: tutstar

I believe he'll try to squirm his way around this. He's gonna have to quit fronting for Felos and Hino to save his own hide and I wonder if he'll give them up. I've often wondered if Felos has something on him.


1,923 posted on 03/04/2005 3:22:22 PM PST by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: DJ MacWoW

What Gibbs needs to do is counter with
"court have never reviewed" etc.


1,924 posted on 03/04/2005 3:23:55 PM PST by atruelady
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To: Halls
We must not allow them to do this to Terri or we are no better than them!

Hadamar Germany - Video and Audio site

1,925 posted on 03/04/2005 3:26:02 PM PST by bjs1779 (" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
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To: churchillbuff

Really? I didn't know that. I was just in agreement with the factual things he had posted anyway. I guess we never really "know" those from afar unless we meet them or speak with those who have. Seems like it's one disappointment after another huh?


1,926 posted on 03/04/2005 3:26:45 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South !)
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To: utahagen; tutstar

Totally agree!


1,927 posted on 03/04/2005 3:26:53 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: DJ MacWoW
Schiavo files motion to dismiss petition to remove guardian (Guardianship case - March 2, 2005)

I do not doubt that the Schindler's motion is probably fairly sloppy from a legal perspective. That tends to happen when one has pro bono attourneys while trying to fight attournies that cost $hundreds of thousands.

Nonetheless, the central tenet of this motion is chilling: it suggests--with no statutory basis that I'm aware of--that none of the rules regarding the care of incapacitated persons apply if a person has been declared to be PVS.

Perhaps someone in the news media should ask Felos why he would make such an argument if, as Michael claims, he was providing Terri with all the care and therapy to which she was entitled?

1,928 posted on 03/04/2005 3:27:50 PM PST by supercat (For Florida officials to be free of the Albatross, they should let it fly away.)
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To: utahagen

no, today was for the Shindlers petitions and to schedule a hearing.


1,929 posted on 03/04/2005 3:34:11 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: supercat

I do not believe this will stand up, tutstar. PVS is not equal to permission to torture, especially when it is in dispute. Many doctors will say Terri is not PVS, but Greer onlt listened to those who said she was. Notice how Michael is trying to hide behind Greer as finder of fact. He's saying, hey, once Greer ruled for PVS, I had no guardianship responsbility. But these issues were always contested, over and over and over.....litigation after litigation, appeal after appeal. Michael is saying, hey, Greer said she was a vegetable, and as a vegetable, I could do or not/do anything I wanted with her. Again, I do not think this will hold up. Greer is not an infallible god, and Schiavo cannot hide behind that. People worse off than Terri have awakened from comas after many years. How they were cared for matters.


1,930 posted on 03/04/2005 3:40:07 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: DJ MacWoW

Michael Schiavo is a coward. What does he keep ducking doing another deposition? Could it be that he has alot to hide?


1,931 posted on 03/04/2005 3:40:14 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: supercat

Sorry...I meant supercat.


1,932 posted on 03/04/2005 3:42:19 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: DJ MacWoW

Oh what tangled webs we weave when first we practice to deceive


1,933 posted on 03/04/2005 3:43:48 PM PST by ruoflaw
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Boortz: "Turn that woman loose!"

Boortz "This woman is trapped in her body"

Boortz on Michael Shiavo "I think he is dedicated to his wife"

Boortz on abuse of Terri

"The police have completely and thoroughly investigated it
and they have said there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever
of any trauma or any beatings delivered to her by her husband.
It is a complete fairytale"

"She had, perhaps, an eating disorder that led to a
cardiac arrest and the lack of potassium in her system
exacerbated things and put her in a persistent vegetative state"

'If you can show me evidence you can turn me around on this one"

Call the Neal Boortz Show
Atlanta: 404.872.0750
Elsewhere 1.877.310.2100

Email the Neal Boortz Show
Send a message
http://boortz.com/cgi-bin/mail.cgi?id=boortz


1,934 posted on 03/04/2005 3:43:48 PM PST by Scoop 1
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To: bjs1779

I agree, bjs1779.

Gov Jeb Bush will be no better either.

Jeb needs to REMOVE TERRI FROM THOSE EVIL PEOPLE NOW.

Terri is in DANGER. If the State of Florida continues to sit on their behind, they are no better either.


1,935 posted on 03/04/2005 3:46:42 PM PST by Pepper777 (HINO - Why won't you LET the MEDIA SEE Terri?)
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To: Chocolate Rose
"nd I was reluctant because of logistics. It would mean traveling to Florida, finding a place to stay, and doing all that for an open-ended period of time. Was that good stewardship of my time and WORLD's resources? Was it even possible, given commitments I had already made? But if I stayed just a day or two, would that be seen as tokenism or grandstanding?

Pretty good reasons, wouldn't you say, for telling my friend no? So I hit the reply button, and told him instead to "Count me in. I'll see you in Florida." Here's why..... http://www.worldmag.com/displayArticle.cfm?ID=10411"

Powerfully written ... and very moving and eye opening.. thanks for posting! Prayers for Terri!!! I'm completely out of the loop today .. working relentlessly today.. looking for some good news ;-).

1,936 posted on 03/04/2005 3:46:48 PM PST by STARWISE (JUDGE GEORGE GREER'S CREDO: LAST RITES INSTEAD OF CIVIL RIGHTS. Greed & Greer KILL!)
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To: tutstar; Ohioan from Florida; BykrBayb; ExPatInFrance; Chocolate Rose; floriduh voter; pc93; ...

New at The Empire Journal

http://www.theempirejournal.com/03040569_17_medical_affidavits_a.htm

17 Medical Affidavits Affirm
Terri Schiavo Not PVS


1,937 posted on 03/04/2005 3:47:53 PM PST by Scoop 1
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To: ruoflaw

Ohhhhhh boy! Does he EVER have a lot to hide.

I bet he is gonna take the rest of the money and run.

I bet he updated his passport too.


1,938 posted on 03/04/2005 3:49:24 PM PST by atruelady
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To: Pepper777

He probably doesn't know or is denial if he does.


1,939 posted on 03/04/2005 3:55:57 PM PST by Darksheare (If you were in my heart I'd surely not break you. If you were beside me and my love would take you.)
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To: ruoflaw

He has a great deal to hide. And he and Felos trying to hide behind "the court ruled" won't save them. Greer is more likely to feed them to the lions and save himself. Since Greer has never seen Terri, he can claim they lied to him.


1,940 posted on 03/04/2005 3:56:00 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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