TERRI SCHIAVO MARCH 2005 DAILIES Fla's Til of the Hun Sets March Date to Starve Terri

Terri's Fight, The Empire Journal, World Net Daily, Life News ^ | February 28, 2005 | floriduh voter

[floriduh voter]

Terri's Freepers,

Judge George Greer denied Terri's parents' Motion for a Stay to protect their daughter's life while there are still pending issues in this LIFE AND DEATH MATTER. In addition the Department of Children and Family Services made a surprise visit to the court hearing the other day and asked Judge Greer if they could approach the bench. Judge Greer denied DCF the opportunity to speak. DCF asked for 60 days to conduct a complete investigation of allegations that have surfaced in the form of a Complaint to their agency.

What was set in motion instead? On Friday, February 25th, Judge Greer REFUSED TO issue another Stay because he was "not comfortable" issuing a say to protect a Ward of the State but instead "set a date certain" (on his calendar at least, not on mine) to BEGIN THE BARBARIC, ANTI-AMERICAN, STARVATION-DEHYDRATION SLOW MURDER OF TERRI.

Attorney Gibbs for Terri's parents held a press conference after J. Greer's order that was so tastefully written to indicate that "he was giving the Schindlers until March 18th so they could "prepare for Last Rites." Attorneys Gibbs called this ruling and prior rulings "Hitler-resque". Indeed.

If Judge Greer wasn't LEGALIZING EUTHANASIA in his courtroom, why any need for Last Rites? Greer's urgency to fulfill this killing places urgency on every one of us to lobby Governor Bush, Florida's House and Florida's Senate.

A Judge in America is ordering the manner of someone's death, a disabled woman who is healthy but needs rehabilitation.

Time is short so we don't really have time to get into Greer's mind to see why he is Florida's Til of the Hun.

What can we do?

1. LOBBY TO SAVE TERRI

2. HELP BUMP THIS THREAD.

3. POST ARTICLES YOU SEE ABOUT TERRI.

4. VISIT PINELLAS COUNTY FLORIDA AND VIGIL WITH US AT HOSPICE WOODSIDE.

5. VISIT TALLAHASSEE AND LOBBY IN THE HALLS OF THE LEGISLATURE.

6. HOLD A DEMONSTRATION AT THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.

7. Join the Message Board that freepers started at the Crystal Cathedral/Hour of Power. TELL YOUR CHURCH ABOUT TERRI.

8. Tell your friends that Terri is alert and aware of her surroundings and to visit www.terrisfight.org to see her videos.

9. PETITIONS. We will gather current Petitions here for you. At this time, you can sign a SAVE TERRI PETITION AT www.renewamerica.us. THERE ARE ALSO IMPEACH GREER PETITIONS ABOUT.

Finally, the Pope has no Living Will. He will be SAFE as long as he stays away from George Greer's courtroom. The Pope is in our thoughts and prayers and he knows of Terri. He wants Terri to be freed from oppression and from a painless death by starvation-dehyration.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO EVERY DAY, THE PAY ISN'T VERY GOOD BUT THE FRINGE BENEFITS ARE THE GREATEST. You are Great Americans and liberty is Terri's and freedom from oppression. Freepers, that is the big payoff if we continue our daunting task.

Terri's family is grateful to you and all of your prayers are being heard by the Giver of Life.

This is Terri's Fight and the battle is enjoined. JOIN US TO SAVE TERRI FROM FORCES THAT HAVE BUT ONE GOAL THAT IS AGAINST EVERYTHING AMERICAN.

GUIDELINES: If you want to start frivolous discussions, please start your own thread in chat.

If you like something from www.theempirejournal.com, please do not post the entire article at Free Republic. Unless I hear otherwise, I believe that we are allowed to post the title and link. TEJ is a great team member of Terri's network. Thanks, TEJ for making a difference and for getting the truth out there.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR CONTACT INFO, IT IS ON THE WAY. Thanks, floriduh voter

[carenot]

Thank you.

[atruelady]

AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

ROFLMAO!!!!


Hehehehehehehehe!!!!1

[Wampus SC]

In other words,


(Death makes money.)

[ruoflaw]

was Judge Greer even taking this investigation into consideration?

[DJ MacWoW]

It would take hours and I don't have the patience. Some info is in PDF form and I don't know how to post info from it.

What I did read has to do with who makes decisions for the terminally ill if there's no clear statement by them.

[Pegita]

You're right, Ohioan ... just a delightful chuckle, not surprise.

May I add here a comment regarding Attorney Anderson, for the benefit of our posters. Many months ago I emailed one of Terri's advocates regarding the frame of reference when Terri "stated" she wanted no life-sustaining measures. It could only have been Karen Ann Quinlan and VENTILATORS, not nutrition and hydration. Nicmarlo has done a good job of linking the way in which the husband and attorney from hell worked to arrive at starving Terri. Attorney Anderson was well aware of the frame of reference.

So here let me say that none of us are really sure about what is going on behind the scenes. Posters from several years ago will remember that Jeb Bush would correspond with one of our Florida FReepers, and she had his permission to let us know what he and his administration were trying to do for Terri. I'm sure it's that way again, only this time we don't have a direct pipeline.

Suffice it to say, every person who has ever done anything for this mother's child, has contributed to where we are today. This is enormous to contemplate since all the forces of hell are gathered around this wounded woman, yet she has survived. To God be the Glory, great things He continues to do. Continued prayer for Terri's Team, whoever and wherever they are.

[ExPatInFrance]

You wrote:
I just have to tell all of you something:

I am registered on a site that e-mails me a
Bible verse every day.

Well, wait until you see the one that was e-mailed to me today. I almost fell off my chair when I saw it. I promise you that I received it just this morning.

Here it is:


"In a certain city there was a judge who neither feared God nor regarded man; and there was a widow in that city who kept coming to him and saying, 'Vindicate me against my adversary.' For a while he refused; but afterward he said to himself, 'Though I neither fear God nor regard man, yet because this widow bothers me, I will vindicate her, or she will wear me out by her continual coming.' And the Lord said, "Hear what the unrighteous judge says. And will not God vindicate his elect, who cry to him day and night? Will he delay long over them? I tell you, he will vindicate them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of man comes, will he find faith on earth?"
Luke 18:2-8


My Reply:
Unbelievable "coincidence"

[bjs1779]

This person suffering from hereditary defects costs the people 60,000 Reichmarks during his lifetime. People, that is your money. Read 'New People'.

[phenn]

He's not ruled on their motion yet, as far as I know. I certainly hope he is. Not that it isn't bad enough to sentence her to death without allowing for a functional MRI to determine her condition, but doing it without allowing her her statutorily guaranteed human services as well?

I don't know how anyone could possibly excuse such a thing.

[cyn]

"How can we assume that the world through the windshield of that Mustang is any more rich or holy or even sane than the world before those pale blue eyes?" -- I'd not read this before. He expresses what I haven't been able to. Thanks for posting it.

[tutstar]

Is this what yall are looking for?

http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0765/ch0765.htm

(10) "Life-prolonging procedure" means any medical procedure, treatment, or intervention, including artificially provided sustenance and hydration, which sustains, restores, or supplants a spontaneous vital function. The term does not include the administration of medication or performance of medical procedure, when such medication or procedure is deemed necessary to provide comfort care or to alleviate pain.

(4) The Department of Elderly Affairs for hospices and, in consultation with the Department of Elderly Affairs, the Department of Health for health care providers; the Agency for Health Care Administration for hospitals, nursing homes, home health agencies, and health maintenance organizations; and the Department of Children and Family Services for facilities subject to part I of chapter 394 shall adopt rules to implement the provisions of the section.

765.305 Procedure in absence of a living will.--

(1) In the absence of a living will, the decision to withhold or withdraw life-prolonging procedures from a patient may be made by a health care surrogate designated by the patient pursuant to part II unless the designation limits the surrogate's authority to consent to the withholding or withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures.

(2) Before exercising the incompetent patient's right to forego treatment, the surrogate must be satisfied that:

(a) The patient does not have a reasonable medical probability of recovering capacity so that the right could be exercised by the patient.

(b) The patient has an end-stage condition, the patient is in a persistent vegetative state, or the patient's physical condition is terminal.

History.--s. 4, ch. 92-199; s. 28, ch. 99-331; s. 13, ch. 2000-295.

765.306 Determination of patient condition.--In determining whether the patient has a terminal condition, has an end-stage condition, or is in a persistent vegetative state or may recover capacity, or whether a medical condition or limitation referred to in an advance directive exists, the patient's attending or treating physician and at least one other consulting physician must separately examine the patient. The findings of each such examination must be documented in the patient's medical record and signed by each examining physician before life-prolonging procedures may be withheld or withdrawn.

History.--s. 4, ch. 92-199; s. 13, ch. 94-183; s. 29, ch. 99-331; s. 14, ch. 2000-295.

[ruoflaw]

me either but he has been sentencing her to death for quite some time now and he has never allowed the truth to get into his way

[tutstar]

So Greer will make it public on Fri.

Is that after he gets on a flight to Mexico? LOL

[ruoflaw]

it is when they made a feeding tube an artificial means of keeping someone alive...before then, a feeding tube was not considered extra means of keeping someone alive

[txrangerette]

Dave Weldon is in the US House representing a FL district. CSpan was carrying as usual. Just sorry I missed it. Most likely it was a one minute speech like they give early in the day, on any topic of their choice. Terri isn't being debated there...wish she were.

[ExPatInFrance]

FV: You wrote:
amdgmary, JUDGE GREER JUST DID ORDER TO UNSEAL THE DCF COMPLAINT FILE TOMORROW FOR THE MEDIA. BREAKING NEWS.
And I saw DAVE WELDON ON C-SPAN talking about the Federal Terri's Law. What a day!!!

My Reply:
The Schindlers said that they prefered to keep the complaint private, but didn't "object"

Let's just hope that the witnesess who are quoted in the complaint are strong. I think they knew what their observations could lead to so I beleive they are prepared.

I will be very curious to see what is in there. So tomorrow is a big day. The Florida DFC report of abuses will be made public as well as the hearing for the various complaints before Greer, all "end of life issues" like can there please be a funeral instead of an instant cremation.
Why do so many of his ruling tend to happen on Friday's with Judge Greer?

I am encouraged by the legislative initiaves happening. We have lived through this before, with Terri's Law, and she was restored nourishment. Hopefully they will get the laws passed before March 18th so that Terri can be saved.

[DJ MacWoW]

Yes that was part of it. Page 5, right? There was an interesting chart etc.

I found part 1 and 1a interesting. It certainly explains the "hopelessly PVS" bullcrap.

[phenn]

>>"Life-prolonging procedure" means any medical procedure, treatment, or intervention, including artificially provided sustenance and hydration, which sustains, restores, or supplants a spontaneous vital function<<

Kiss your insulin dependent friends goodbye. Or anyone who requires an IV or catheter.

You asthmatics with inhalers better watch your step as well!

Seriously, who is the @ssclown who wrote these laws?

[utahagen]

You never know! This case so stinks to high Heavens that people may surprise us, if only to cover their own hides. After all, Terri Schiavo isn't going to expire within minutes of having her tubes removed; there may be folks who, as the days tick away and the media tracks Terri's dying, may not want to have gone on the record as saying, "Pull the tubes". You did right to write. Now, pray!

[ExPatInFrance]

phenn,
If Michael was so darned sure that Terri, "wouldn't ahve wanted this" then why did he authorize inserting the feeding tube originally???

he is talking out of both sides of his mouth.