[MadIvan]

I am hopeful Poland in addition to ourselves, will say "No".

Regards, Ivan

[MadIvan]

Ping!

[Uncle Miltie]

"Are we fools led by liars?"

To ask is to answer.

(Well, close enough)

[Uncle Miltie]

"The treaty is indeed complex."

When bureaucrats write constitutions, who do you think will be the prime beneficiaries?

[Erik Latranyi]

I have said from DAY ONE that the EU is destined for failure due to its burdensome complexity.

The reason why the US is so successful is due to the simplicity of our founding documents.

Free citizens, open markets, property rights, limited gov't, etc.

[Uncle Miltie]

"a highly competitive social market economy"

Oxymoron alert!

[McGavin999]

I can not believe that so few people have even bothered to read something that is so important to their futures.

[snowsislander]

The treaty is indeed complex. If the convention had followed the example of the framers of the American Constitution, it might have produced a skeleton constitution. Unfortunately, the constitution includes quantities of material of a quite unsuitable kind, in an apparent attempt to dictate not only the structure but the long-term political objectives of the European Union.

The author is entirely correct; this "constitution" is not one in the same sense as our American Constitution.

I would like to think that if Europeans were to read this document, it would have a difficult time passing. But Spain certainly showed that there was an easy acceptance among the few who did bother to vote on accepting this document, so it appears that no such difficulty exists.

[Grzegorz 246]

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[sanchez810]

MadIvan, Britain Must stop the E.U. constitution.
What the tory position?

[sodpoodle]

I was very worried about the EU as a counter-weight to the USA, fiscally, economically, diplomatically etc., however, realizing that France and Germany are the "founders" of this hybrid mutt, I relaxed with a cool one.

When was the last time France and Germany shared a good idea?

See why I am not perturbed?

sp.

[JeffersonRepublic.com]

“The Union shall work for sustainable development of Europe based on balanced economic growth and price stability, a highly competitive social market economy, aiming at full employment and social progress, and with a high level of protection and improvement of the quality of the environment. It shall promote scientific and technological advance.”

This is a marketing ploy, not a constitution.

When will the Eur-inals realize that the bureaucracy of the EU is building the new U.S.S.R.?

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com

[Cold Heat]

This has gone far, far beyond what was intended as a trade union.

IMO, they will regret this very soon.

One would hope GB sees through this French attempt at regaining the power it has longed for.

[Righty_McRight]

It creates a state. Article 11: “The constitution establishes the European Union.” Article 15a: “The constitution . . . shall have primacy over the law of the member states.”

Why do I get the feeling that America is going to be helping the UK gain Independence in ten years?

[clamper1797]

Sounds like your garden variety Dimocrat

[dog breath]

The British should follow the advice of Monty Python in the Holy Grail, and "Run away!, Run away!", when it comes to the European Union. It is the killer rabbit come to life, for it looks harmless enough at first glance but is really quite dangerous. The British are too intelligent to further become involved in this train wreck.

[GVnana]

The Union shall work for sustainable development of Europe based on balanced economic growth and price stability, a highly competitive social market economy, aiming at full employment and social progress, and with a high level of protection and improvement of the quality of the environment. It shall promote scientific and technological advance.”

That won't last long.

[Unam Sanctam]

A lot of the complexity of the Constitutional Treaty is merely carried over from the two existing EU treaties.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Good luck. I once followed a link from here (FR) that allowed the reading of the EU Constitutional draft. I forget what article is was near the end of the document, but it was essentially an 'all promises are null and void if, and when, we decide this is so' kind of clause. Not too comforting to know that whatever is said about human rights is solely conditional on the whims of the elite.

[chainsaw]

Ivan, to hope is noble, but if you want something done, or in this case not done, you have to get out and fight for it. Inform the European bloggers about what this constitution really means , or doesn't mean, and let them inform the masses.

[John Jorsett]

Their constitution is something like 511 pages. Clearly the product of a committee. It might keep them out of trouble, though, since they'll be busy litigating its meaning until the universe implodes.