Posted on 02/27/2005 7:13:06 AM PST by TheBlackFeather
He's unable to travel because he refuses to present a government-approved ID
SAN FRANCISCO -- John Gilmore's splendid isolation began July 4, 2002, when, with defiance aforethought, he strolled to the Southwest Airlines counter at Oakland Airport and presented his ticket.
(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghpostgazette.com ...
* Read all information at the bottom of your Boarding Pass carefully:
o This Boarding Pass will be retained by Southwest Airlines at the departure gate.
o Any change made to this reservation by you or any other person will void this boarding pass.
o In order to print a valid Boarding Pass, your Internet Browser must be set up to print images. A barcode should appear on the left side of the printed document.
o Faxed copies of Boarding Passes will not be accepted and must be reprinted prior to boarding the aircraft.
o If you are not checking luggage, you may proceed directly to the Security Checkpoint with this Boarding Pass.
o This Boarding Pass is valid only for the Passenger listed above.
o Government-issued identification is required.
o The TSA strictly enforces a limit of one carryon item, plus one smaller personal item.
o Customer Checkin Requirement: Customers who are not present and available for boarding at the departure gate at least ten (10) minutes before scheduled departure time will have their reserved space cancelled and will not be eligible for denied boarding compensation.
o View Southwest Airlines' Contract of Carriage.
Not yet. And I'd like to keep it that way.
You don't have the Constitutional right to get married, own a toaster, or have hot and cold running water inside your house. Read the document - these things aren't mentioned at all!
You can call him an idiot, but if you read the article you would know that he has a passport and has no issue using it. Try using more caution when calling others idiots.
See my Post 26.
"Showing ID can help stop "bait and switch" schemes where a ticket is bought under the name of "Paul Smith" and a very Arab-looking Abdul al-Bombzawi waltzes aboard the aircraft without anybody even asking him his name."
Like it or not, we are at war and the war front has been brought to America's airports with extremely deadly results that have costs thousands of American lives.
During war or even during Peace, ID's are a necessary fact of life in sensitive areas prone to enemy sabotage or attack. On the morning of my last day of duty aboard my last warship, I entered the restricted areas on my own with my ID but I had to leave that afternoon with a Master-at-Arms escort after turning in my ship's ID card.
"Cest la Guerre."
Double negatives tend to be confusing, especially when I haven't had my coffee.
Here's an interesting question:
What is the difference between government requiring an individual to show ID, and a government regulation ( secret, as well ) requiring private industry to require an individual to show ID?
Interesting. So are you arguing that people allowed into secure areas of the airport, like baggage handlers, should not be required to have IDs? Anyone can go onto the tarmac and load stuff onto a plane?
Requiring IDs is one part of the equation, making sure the IDs are hard to forge is the other part. Maybe the second part needs improvement, but that doesn't mean you throw out the first part.
The government doesn't have to require the latter: my company won't let me in its building without an ID that I must pass through a badge reader.
No badge, no entry.
1)He cannot get a license, apparently, due to his epilepsy. He could, however, get an ID card. That doesn't make him "stupid" per se, just stubborn.
2)A notarized birth certificate, a passport, state ID card, driver's permit, or military ID are generally required in order to get a license...at least in the states that I have lived in. I do believe at least some of those count as a kind of government ID. (This is in addition to a utility bill, ect. with your name and address on it or something like that to prove your residence in the state you are applying for a license in.)
I'm not saying I disagree with doing any of this (how else are you supposed to prove that you are eligible for a driver's license?
Most state motor vehicle departments will issue a photo ID to NON drivers. That would seem to be a solution for this irate "traveler".
The applicable laws, by the way, are 49 U.S.C. § 44901 (as amended in 2004); and 49 U.S.C. § 44902 (as amended in 2004).
Here's the 1/22/02 version, which says much the same thing:
Section 44901. Screening passengers and property
(a) In General. - The Under Secretary of Transportation for
Security shall provide for the screening of all passengers and
property, including United States mail, cargo, carry-on and checked
baggage, and other articles, that will be carried aboard a
passenger aircraft operated by an air carrier or foreign air
carrier in air transportation or intrastate air transportation. In
the case of flights and flight segments originating in the United
States, the screening shall take place before boarding and shall be
carried out by a Federal Government employee (as defined in section
2105 of title 5, United States Code), except as otherwise provided
in section 44919 or 44920 and except for identifying passengers and
baggage for screening under the CAPPS and known shipper programs
and conducting positive bag-match programs.
(b) Supervision of Screening. - All screening of passengers and
property at airports in the United States where screening is
required under this section shall be supervised by uniformed
Federal personnel of the Transportation Security Administration who
shall have the power to order the dismissal of any individual
performing such screening. [snip]
Section 44902. Refusal to transport passengers and property
(a) Mandatory Refusal. - The Under Secretary of Transportation
for Security shall prescribe regulations requiring an air carrier,
intrastate air carrier, or foreign air carrier to refuse to
transport -
(1) a passenger who does not consent to a search under section
44901(a) of this title establishing whether the passenger is
carrying unlawfully a dangerous weapon, explosive, or other
destructive substance; or
(2) property of a passenger who does not consent to a search of
the property establishing whether the property unlawfully
contains a dangerous weapon, explosive, or other destructive
substance.
(b) Permissive Refusal. - Subject to regulations of the Under
Secretary, an air carrier, intrastate air carrier, or foreign air
carrier may refuse to transport a passenger or property the carrier
decides is, or might be, inimical to safety.
(c) Agreeing to Consent to Search. - An agreement to carry
passengers or property in air transportation or intrastate air
transportation by an air carrier, intrastate air carrier, or
foreign air carrier is deemed to include an agreement that the
passenger or property will not be carried if consent to search the
passenger or property for a purpose referred to in this section is
not given.
So, basically, there's two ways that they can legally refuse you - first, by not presenting ID, you are not consenting to search and therefore cannot board; second, by not presenting ID, you cause the airline to think that you might be inimical to safety, which allows them to deny you boarding.
Forgery is not an issue when there are sleepers who can easily obtain IDs. I realize they perform background checks on airport employees, but that doesn't mean they should do the same for all passengers, the costs would far outweigh any benefit.
Why are you playing with peoples minds? Are you are just trying to confuse them? That is like taking candy from a baby. People like to believe they have Constitutional Rights, so let them. The truth is the Constitution merely limits the power of the government to violate your inherent rights.
Wow, at this rate they may soon make you show an ID to cash a check. What is the world coming to?
Then he's a FLAMING idiot!!
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