If this is Keyes brand of Christianity, I don't want any part of it. What a disgraceful parent and role model.
I COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY AGREE, 100%!!!
I have no problem with what Keys did. If any other sexual adiction the solution would be the same.
Maybe you don't understand Christian principles. Christ did not have a bunch of sinners following him around. His dictum was "Go and sin no more", not for his followers to go around and boldly proclaim their sin as some virtue.
Christianity helps you forsake sin not champion it. Keyes daughter apparently has decided to champion it. So how would you have handled it?
I disagree. The parents removed their financial support.
You must consider the source. I would withhold judgement until there was more details from trustworthy sources. In fact, I'd want to hear it from Mr. Keyes himself.
Incidently, have you ever asked yourselves why Mr. Keyes wasn't given a lot of airtime on bias media outlets? You should. Mr. Keyes is never PC with issues. Never sugarcoats or "makes nice." There is no misunderstanding, or questioning as to where he stands. I, for one, admire him for pulling no punches, and for his integrity.
In all fairness, we don't know what was said between M/M Keyes and their daughter.
I'll second that! It is disgraceful in my book, but not surprised out of Keyes after the way he treated VP Cheney on his daughter.
And yet this man is held up by some on here as a role model and anything he says is 100% correct! Have the same opinion of him I had in 2000 and it hasn't changed even though I gave him a chance in Illinois, he blew that too with his attacks on humanity it seems. No one can live up to the "great" Dr. Keyes' standards. (sarcasm)
Read the Bible, fool!
If you don't want anything to do with Keyes' "brand of Christianity", I guess you simply don't want to be a Christian.
I couldn't agree more.
One of the down sides of covering news for decades is one gets to see all the horror that exists in the world.
One factor no one considers in homosexual behaviour is that in every homosexual couple one partner plays the normal sexual role. In every lesbian relationship there is the female that plays the male role. There is also the female that plays the female roll.
In my news career I must have interiewed dozens of lesbians. I became convinced that the ones that played the female roles were normal though damaged females. I never found a case in a lesbian relationship where the one that played the female roll had not been abused by a male. Some had been sexually attacked by fathers or other male members of her family. Some had been horribly abused by men they had become involved with as young ladies. They were scared to death of men.. and could only function sexually with a masculine female.
On the other hand I am convinced the female who plays the male roll in a lesbian relationship is born that way. They walk like men.. they talk like men.. they react like men. They are in my opinion men in a female body. Neither are normal human beings.
Can people change from a natural state? Certainly. In the vernacualar a Butch can change from being a butch. And the female lesbian can learn to have a good relationship with a male.
But the solution is not to thow away less than perfect offspring. There is no Christianity in condeming sinners before judgement day. The Bible teaches us to reach out .. even when rejected. The primary job of Christians is to save souls.
It is not the job or the right of Alan Keyes to condem his daughter or anyone's daughter. It is job and duty of Alan Keyes to try to save his daughter's soul. Jesus reached out to sinners and set an example. His teachings are the embodyment of hate the sin but love the sinner.
Men like Alan Keyes do not live the teachings of the bible. Key's certainly knew at least since puberty that his now twenty somthing daughter was a lesbian.
But Alan put him self in a spot. He had to know his daughter was gay.. but he also wanted to srike out at Dick Cheney. So he struck out at Cheney's daughter... Then felt he had no option when the media pointed out his daughters sexual preference, but to strike out at his own child.
Keyes proves day after day that he worships attention and power. He will do what ever the devil asks in his attempt to acquire it.
For men like Keyes the devil only promises. The Devil knows need never deliver. Keyes is a sorry case of a very failed human being.
I have often attacked Alan Keyes on Free Republic. But he is no longer a political force on an opposing side. he is a sad example of a failed human being.
For what, having the courage to stand up for what he believes? Just where do you draw the line? Do you even care to draw a line? Even Keyes daughter understood the "why" of this situation. Every hear of the prodical son? He let him go do his thing, but not in his house. You welcome them back when they change with open arms... but you don't change your value system to accomadate known sins to God.
Try Matthew 18:17 and I Cor. 5:1-5 before you go dismissing the man's Christianity. He obviously knows more about Church discipline than you give him credit for.
And what would you do?
He is disgraceful and cold. But she sounds like a real pip. I mean did she have to come out this way. It is more hostile than anything. What a number to do to a parent in public. Maybe they deserve each other.
..and I disagree with you.
I wish you would read James Dobson's Love Must Be Tough.
It is not un-Christian..to put limitations on a wayward adult..family member.
Her defiance is breathtaking....
...even good families have children who rebel....
..and a father certainly isn't called to fund the rebellion!
This is a stretch comparison....but many in our country ....for a while...shunned and distanced itself from France and anything French, when France deliberately spit in our face politically.
Why should this be any different?
Do you not think this man & his wife are heartbroken over their daughter....!!
“Who is my mother and who are my brothers?” And pointing toward his disciples he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household.
“Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not take up his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life because of me will find it.
Read the Bible much?
If this is Keyes brand of Christianity, I don't want any part of it. What a disgraceful parent and role model.
AMEN to that.