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President Cheney?
The Weekly Standard ^ | 03/07/05 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 02/26/2005 6:55:39 AM PST by Pokey78

The obvious man for Bush to tap as his successor in 2008

VICE PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY IS adamant about not running for president in 2008. Asked by host Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday if he might change his mind, Cheney answered with a firm no. "I've got my plans laid out," he said. "I'm going to serve this president for the next four years, and then I'm out of here. . . . In 2009, I'll be 68 years old. And I've still got a lot of rivers I'd like to fish and time I'd like to spend with my grandkids, and so this is my last tour. I don't plan to run for anything."

And that wasn't all. Cheney said a primary reason he has influence with Bush is that he has pledged not to run. His ability to serve the president, he said, "depends upon my ability not to have any agenda other than his agenda. I made it clear when I took the job that I had no aspirations to run for president myself, that I wanted to be part of the team. And it's worked very effectively." If he were running, he'd have to worry now "about what the precinct committeeman in Ottumwa, Iowa, is going to think about me in January of '08." Since that's not the case, Cheney said, he's free to "offer my advice based on what's best from the standpoint of the president and his program and what we're trying to achieve now."

As professions of lack of interest in the presidency go, Cheney's is unusually

strong. Yet there's every reason he should change his mind. He's not too old. President Reagan was 69 when he took office. Despite past heart trouble, Cheney hasn't had a serious health problem for years. Besides, his health has nothing to do with his refusal to consider running in 2008. He's an experienced candidate at the national level and an effective debater with a wry sense of humor.

But there's a larger reason Cheney should seek to succeed Bush. In all likelihood, the 2008 election, like last year's contest, will focus on foreign policy. The war on terror, national security, and the struggle for democracy will probably dominate American politics for a decade or more. Bush's legacy, or at least part of it, will be to have returned these issues to a position of paramount concern for future presidents. And who is best qualified to pursue that agenda as knowledgeably and aggressively as Bush? The answer is the person who helped Bush formulate it, namely Cheney.

There's one other person who has been as important as the vice president in helping the president shape that agenda, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. She could be an attractive candidate, but she has shown no interest in running for public office. Rice was once introduced to Arnold Schwarzenegger as "the next governor of California." She declined to run, however, and of course he got the job in 2003. Last year, Rice had the opportunity to run for the U.S. Senate from California. Again, she declined. If she decided to run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008, she would face the distinct disadvantage of being a first-time candidate.

What about John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Bill Frist, and other Republicans who are thinking about running? They don't come close to Cheney in foreign policy know-how or decision-making experience. That's not to denigrate them. McCain has emphasized foreign and military affairs in his Senate career and is an able spokesman for a Bush-style foreign policy. Giuliani is no slouch on the subject of the terrorist threat. But who would generate the most public confidence as commander in chief? Cheney, for sure. On domestic issues as well--particularly taxes and energy--he can match any of the likely Republican candidates.

The main rap I've heard on Cheney is that he lacks the charisma to get elected. This is nonsense. So what if he can be characterized as Bush without the pizzazz? Cheney has what's far more important--gravitas. He's a man who's taken seriously as a national leader by everyone here and abroad. Voters aren't stupid. They know that gravitas trumps charisma in choosing a president in a foreign policy era.

The other question about Cheney as a presidential candidate is how he gets out of his vow not to run. That's easy. In the final two years of Bush's second term, the president will be a lame duck whose agenda has been exhausted. There will still be foreign policy issues on the table, true. But that will entail the playing out of policies that Bush, with Cheney's help, developed in his first term. So Bush will be in a position to anoint a successor. If

the president let it be known he thinks Cheney would be the best person to succeed him, that would be enough to release Cheney from his promise not to run. And does anyone doubt that Bush thinks Cheney would be the best?

I don't know if Bush, two years from now, will actually want to choose a successor, someone to carry on his policies. It's possible his presidency and his signature issues may have soured by then. But I doubt it. So imagine Bush as a successful president looking to the future after he leaves office and wondering whether his accomplishments will be protected and expanded or reversed. It would be out of character for Bush to leave the selection of his successor to chance or to the whims of presidential primaries. If he says he'd like Cheney to run, my guess is Cheney would be hard-pressed to say no.


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To: Dilbert56

You presume more testosterone in the NYS GOP than I have ever seen.


61 posted on 02/26/2005 10:18:35 AM PST by ontos-on
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To: Brian Allen; Mad Mammoth; David; Condor51
I reiterate my point, it was not about our leadership, they were flawed, but who was not? I find your description of Churchill to be comical, he liked his whiskey, but was firmly against communism. Sir Winny the man of the 20th century.

Where was the public support for these endeavors which your posts suggest? Fascism was defeated, the people wanted a normal life. It is just entirely too convenient to criticize those who were making those decisions today based upon 50 years of hindsight. Just how do you think we could have pushed Stalin out of eastern Europe?

Your condemnation of our leaders at that point reminds me of those who criticize the Dresden affair, Monday morning QBing at its finest.
62 posted on 02/26/2005 10:22:39 AM PST by schu
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To: tbg681

Hmmmmm.....well, in that case, How 'bout Bobby Knight??? :)

There'd be some very interesting press conf.'s with Bobby in charge.


63 posted on 02/26/2005 10:22:47 AM PST by GOP_Raider (With a QB named Kerry, is it any wonder the Raiders finished 5-11 this year?)
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To: varon

2012 Rice-Rumsfeld... no?


64 posted on 02/26/2005 10:34:15 AM PST by Wiz
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To: moose2004
Here's the deal: Every president who has succeeded a two-termer (from the same party) has been either:

(1) a "senior administration official," meaning a high-profile Cabinet officer or the vice-president; or

(2) a governor. Most presidents got their offices after successfully running one of the fifty states.

Notably, NONE, repeat NONE, have been Senators. The Senate is a warehouse of people who WANT the Presidency but lack the leadership to get there.

With that in mind, let us evaluate the potential candidates.

George Allen: My Governor when I lived in Virginia. Very effective; perhaps he should return to Richmond this year and agree to appoint Kilgore as his replacement in the Senate. Then run in '08. But don't discout a President Kilgore automatically either. (That would really irk ex-veep Gore.)

John McCain: Senator. Used to like him, but he's a little, well, power-hungry or perhaps just too old.

Rudolph Guiliani: Too liberal for the red-state electorate (especially on social policy), but great on foreign policy. Let him replace Hillary in 2006. (That should deflate Hillary's bubble, but interestingly, Lincoln lost a Senate race to Douglas in 1858 before defeating him for the presidency in 1860.)

Bill Frist: Senator. Automatically disqualify. Perhaps he should return to Tennessee as a Governor.

Bill Owens: Colorado governor. Reputedly has some family problems, but otherwise solid. Opponent of tax hikes.

Arnold Schwartzenegger: Not born an American citizen, therefore ineligible. And we're not going to change our Constitution.

Chuck Hagel: Who? Some RINO Senator? Never. May he lose his next primary.

Sam Brownback: Senator. Disqualify until he gets some real experience (Governor of Kansas).

Rick Santorum: Senator, perhaps too conservative for his own geriatric Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, especially with the wild popularity and increasing ranks of the deceased Philadelphia Democrats.

Mitt Romney: Looks conservative, but only by the standards of Massachusetts, and as a victim of lunatic judical tyranny. Is it possible to carry both Massachusetts and the South?

Let's try: Mark Sanford, Governor of South Carolina. As a former Congressman, he knows something about foreign policy. And he's a real fiscal conservative, too.

Mark Sanford:
65 posted on 02/26/2005 10:39:27 AM PST by dufekin (Saddam Hussein: both a TERRORIST and a COMMUNIST, deposed thank God and the American soldier!)
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To: schu
It is very different given the political climate at that time.

Not really accurate. HST had it within his capacity to reveal to the nation the extent to which there was leftist influence within the FDR administration and if he did that, the politial climate would have changed.

He probably chose not to do that because of intra-party loyalty or fear of intra party revenge attacks that would respond to such a leveling with the american public.

That was a direction that would have been open to him, and would have been traumatic, but also would have created the will to take steps that would have prevented the development of the Red Nuclear program.

I think the Korean point is the best. The invasion of the South was based on a calculation of what Truman would do, and they clearly detremined that he would not respond effectively.

This alternative history stuff is just speculation, of course, so I dont want to fault HST too much. The point is that his reasons for not being more effective in countering the Reds when we were the only nuclear power, are not as compelling as some want to claim. The larceny of our nuclear secrets by the Rosenbergs and others, would be the template for the public revelations.

66 posted on 02/26/2005 10:57:31 AM PST by ontos-on
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To: Always Right

I see.


67 posted on 02/26/2005 11:04:29 AM PST by ontos-on
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To: Always Right

I see.


68 posted on 02/26/2005 11:04:36 AM PST by ontos-on
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To: Huck
"The main rap on Cheney is that he has a marginal circulatory system."
Well, we still have Rumsfeld who has a clean bill of health, right?
69 posted on 02/26/2005 11:26:34 AM PST by GSlob
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To: moose2004

"Arnold: Same as Rudy, too damn liberal."

Also not eligible, born abroad. And, no matter what, the Constitution isn't going to be amended in the next 3 3/4 years. And any move to do so to personally benefit Arnold should be rejected as far too scary.

And I love Arnie. I love Rudi too, but I think you are right, Rudi is just too far left on the serious social issues. I mean, the man is a serial marrier!

Btw, I heard the ex-wife, Donna Hanover, on the radio the other day, she's now married to some old school (hs? college? don't remember) flame and has written a book about such romances called "My Boyfriend's Back". Even though it was on NYC radio the word "Rudi" was not mentioned even once. Sounds like a cute book actually.


70 posted on 02/26/2005 11:50:33 AM PST by jocon307 (Vote George Washington for the #1 spot)
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To: ontos-on
Perhaps, maybe Truman did not sell the "red" threat as aggressively as he could of, maybe even for political reasons, but that is not the point. The American people were not interested in another war, furthermore we were not at all capable of mounting an offensive against communism. Our relative poor performance in the Korean War shows that the US military had been seriously degraded, notwithstanding the heroic efforts by our soldiers.

The times were not aligned with the needs, Korea and Vietnam are what happens when your leaders decide to get your people into wars without the backing of the electorate.

71 posted on 02/26/2005 12:20:37 PM PST by schu
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To: Owl_Eagle
I totally agree. He came back into politics because he saw in GWB someone who had a vision and a man who he wanted to and could work for in assisting him in the pursuit of this vision.

He says he has no interest in running for the Presidency he has always said he thought about running in 1996 but decided he did not want to do the things you have to do to be President so went into private life instead. I cannot see him changing his mind and IMHO the health issue as far as he is concerned had nothing to do with this decision.

Yes Dick go fish your stream spend time with Lynne and your children and grandchildren.

God Bless Dick Cheney and may he have a long and happy retirement.
72 posted on 02/26/2005 1:00:35 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: Bobber58

The only reason.


73 posted on 02/26/2005 1:01:31 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: Pokey78
"The main rap I've heard on Cheney is that he lacks the charisma to get elected. This is nonsense."

Got that right. Cheney's not only the smartest and ablest VP in at least a century, he's a hoot-- easily the most engaging natural wit in politics since Mo Udall.

There's another thing that would be beneficial in a Cheney candidacy-- the Halliburton howlings from the far left would do for Republicans what Michael Moore did this past year: drive reasonable Dems into the comforting arms of a sane and focused GOP.
74 posted on 02/26/2005 1:11:04 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: MindBender26
Cheney is not a well man. .............More than anything else, Dick Cheney is tired.More than anything else, Dick Cheney is tired. Lynn Cheney is tired


Where is your evidence for this because he does not want to run for President. He still have the appetite for his job he just does not want the Presidency and no one could have had more vigor than Lynne Cheney on the campaign trail last year.



The most recent photo I have seen of him taken on 17th February hardly seems that of a tired ill old man.



75 posted on 02/26/2005 1:30:51 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: moose2004
John McCain: Like him, hope he runs.


If Cheney is considered too old or ill then why is not McCain, he is older than Cheney and has also had health issues.

76 posted on 02/26/2005 1:35:43 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: SE Mom

Just a slow day for news last week he is going to resign due to ill health next year this week he will run for President in 2008.


77 posted on 02/26/2005 1:37:00 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: snugs

Met with him in Orlando during campaign. He was VERY tired. Plus, he has nothing to prove.

Seriously, he will be glad to go home.


78 posted on 02/26/2005 1:39:56 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having your own XM177 E2 means never having to say you are sorry......)
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To: pepsionice
My guess is that Cheny may actually have more serious health problems than he lets on. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't serve out the entire four year period.


What evidence do you have for that a recent photo of him taken on the 17th of this month would indicate otherwise.



79 posted on 02/26/2005 1:40:58 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: solo gringo

Here here


80 posted on 02/26/2005 1:46:01 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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