Posted on 02/26/2005 2:27:35 AM PST by BROKKANIC
MONTREAL - The Quebec Labour Relations Board has ordered Wal-Mart Canada to stop intimidating workers who want to form a union.
Not too smart up north eh?
Not Canada, just Q-bec. They are sort of a separate little french closed society within Canada. It's hard to even picture a "Mart du Wal".
They do manadate the standard living wage there, just like most states do. I don't know what it is though, around $7.30 an hour as of Feb. 2003 according to google.
Harassing? What does that mean? Is WalMart insisting they get some work out of Francois and Jean-Claude ? Oh, the horror ...
I can see both sides of this. The workers should be free to decide for themselves. I worked in a meatpacking plant years ago and a union was trying to get in our doors there. The company was anti-union; but, they didn't threaten us. They did address it head on, though, which I appreciated. They called us in, gave us the pros and cons of the union.. told us the facts about that group and let us make up our own minds. They didn't pressure us and the facts bore out - so we sent the union packing (pun intended). The place was generally good to us on pay already.. incentives, bonuses, you name it.
And the union itself was largely looking to leach off us after they closed another facility with their nonsense.
I like the idea of unions but can't stand them in practice.
I like the idea of Walmart (low prices) but can't stand Walmart in practice (worked for them for 4 years). If the union and Walmart off each other - that's a twofer IMO. World would be better without both of them.
"The workers should be free to decide for themselves."
You are correct. The workers have the right to quit any job they wish and go find work at another employer if they wish.
The workers DO NO HAVE THE RIGHT to stay at a job they don't like and FORCE their employer comply to their wishes!
That isn't quite stating the case properly, is it. I don't like unions as I said; but, yes, workers do have the right to collectively contract for their services. It's no different from the individual right of a worker to contract for salaried wage. I've done it, and the negotiation process isn't any different from what Unions attempt to do. In practice, though, Unions have largely become useless leaches that don't represent the workers and don't care about the employer.
I worker has the right to negotiate a wage. If the employer doesn't want to pay it, they are at liberty to try and find
other options. Employers love supply and demand when they have the advantage and do everything they can to break it when they don't - thus free trade.. You're telling us workers don't have a right to collective bargaining - that debate was lost long ago..
I will admit that I'm not a very good union member. I am a member of one only because that's the way it is where I work. Also I will be doing something about that in the near future. If you look back in history, over a hundred years ago; management was the enemy. Today that has changed. Unions destroy more jobs than they ever help to hold onto and when management stands up to them all their is is whining. Unions are one of those bad factions that James Madison talked about in Federalist #10. If the members would wake up and stop being led like sheep this issue would settle down as Madison said. America is a government of the people and yes we have to remind those people we send to Washington D. C. sometimes. The union rank and file needs to wake up and stop being sheep. Some people may not like what I just said so when your Incoming starts I'll handle it all. God Bless Ameria and all who have defended Her.
Corretion WALMART not Waldermar. Bad spell checker.
Wal-Mart announced (couple of weeks ago) that the company planned to close a Quebec store, reportedly the one that was closest to unionizing.
Would that we could kiss Canada goodbye as easily.
The government can't YET force a business to remain open if it wants to close. Let the Quebec government take their ADSCAM money and run a union Wal-Mart clone if they can; I'd be interested to see how well they do.
Our price to ride public transit goes up on March 1st and the Transit union have scheduled a strike vote for March 15. Every time they scream Poor long enough to force the city to let them raise fares (losing millions of riders each time), the union rakes in all the money and the service gets worse, losing more riders. I only ride to work now; and after this rise I will only ride to work in bad weather and will bike to work when the weather is good.
Yes, but the store was truly unprofitable and the union organizers ignored the situation, ultimately refusing to negotiate and instead appealing to the French bureaucrats in Quebec.
What would you expect from such a French enclave? Pure stupidity.
You are correct. The workers have the right to quit any job they wish and go find work at another employer if they wish.
The workers DO NO HAVE THE RIGHT to stay at a job they don't like and FORCE their employer comply to their wishes!
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Amen, DH, and preach on!
Since when do the rights of the union trump those of a business owner?
I heard somewhere that the "gripe" was medical benefits. Excuse me, but don't they have socialized medicine?
Excuse me. I forgot that other states besides my beloved state of Texas DO NOT HAVE RIGHT TO WORK LAWS.
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