Churchill Art Piece Called Into Question

News4 Colorado ^ | 2/24/05 | Raj Chohan

[Fizzie]

Churchill Art Piece Called Into Question

by CBS4 News reporter Raj Chohan

Feb 24, 2005 8:03 pm US/Mountain BOULDER, Colo. (CBS4) Boulder County resident Duke Prentup has been a fan of native American art for as long as he can remember. That love of art took him to the home of Ward Churchill in the early 1980's, where Prentup bought several pieces of Churchill's art, including a serigraph titled "Winter Attack."

"I have enjoyed them ever since immensely, they're obviously up inside my house," Prentup said.

Last month came a stunning revelation, though, as as Prentup flipped through a 1972 book called The Mystic Warriors of the Plains written and illustrated by the late artist Thomas E. Mails. He found a sketch that was strikingly similar to the Churchill piece.

(Excerpt) See the rest of the article, and photo comparisons of the 2 pieces of art here: http://news4colorado.com/topstories/local_story_055200531.html

[Mo1]

You went to bed too early last night!

I'm sick with a cold or the flu .. all I know is that I feel like I've been hit by a truck :0(

[Mo1]

I was physically sickened at his hateful vitriol. I mean sickened. This turd can't be flushed quickly enough IMO. He's a good argument for bringing back public punishments.

Seems Professor Fraud has CD's of himself

www.alternativetentacles.com

Here's a sample of him talking to a class or something about Colin Powell and 9/11

5. "Blaming The Victims" (4:41)

[AmericanMade1776]

it is.... :-)

[N3WBI3]

The funny thing is if he did not make such a scene after 9/11 his fraud could have gone on for years unnoticed.. kind of makes you wonder who else is out there..

[Howlin]

Okay, I sent an email last night to one of the sellers of Churchill's work; I told them they might want to check into it's credibility.

This is the reply I got back:

ME: "You better read this: http://news4colorado.com/topstories/local_story_055200531.html
I believe ALL these pictures of his on this site may be questionable."

This is the reply from the seller:

This is a Ward Churchill original oil painting complete with documentation. Wether or not Ward copied the piece is not relevant. Thanks for your interest.

[Drango]

From #133 Ryan Mails, the son of the late Thomas Mails said the family still retained the copyrights to the drawings of the Mystic Warriors book,

We need to get word to Ryan Mails that his dads work ala Churchill is on Ebay!

Ryan is the only one who can complain to ebay about copyright.

[Thommas]

an incident with smallpox-infected blankets given to Indians in order to deliberately infect them IS true.

Uhmmmm..NOT necessarily true!..Louis Pasteur didn't make the connection between "germs" and disease - bacteria & their vectors and disease, until his investigative work between 1865 and 1877. It's hard to 1) see how English officers knew about bacterial or viral contamination, or 2) see where they found someone with infectious smallpox, alive, and were able to get the bacteria onto blankets, without contaminating themselves, and getting the blankets, still fresh with the disease to the Indians, and then....

Very quickly this TRUE story starts to look like a Ward Churchilesk fabrication.

[AmericanMade1776]

TomGuy, this Wardo is so busted...that is the funniest thing.

Hoosiermama had it right.

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Looks like he used an overhead projector. Copied it onto a transparency and then reversed it and copied it onto his canvas.....A real artist! NOT 350 posted on 02/25/2005 9:10:02 AM EST by hoosiermama

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Having formerly been a teacher, there were many times I used an Overhead projector to trace drawings on to bullentin boards, or poster....how lame is this El Wardo!

[msnimje]

This is a Ward Churchill original oil painting complete with documentation. Wether or not Ward copied the piece is not relevant. Thanks for your interest.

The seller must be a graduate of the "WARD CHURCHILL SCHOOL OF ETHICS

[AmericanMade1776]

But the Seller of the Original Ward Churchill has documentation from EL WARDO...! It has to be real, I mean Ward Churchill is a professor at the Univerity of Colorado! (said with much sarcasm)

[Mo1]

This is a Ward Churchill original oil painting complete with documentation. Wether or not Ward copied the piece is not relevant. Thanks for your interest.

??????

[Drango]

A white guy stealing "Indian Art" copyright and passing it off as his own, is always relevant!

[TomGuy]

This is the reply from the seller:

This is a Ward Churchill original oil painting complete with documentation. Wether or not Ward copied the piece is not relevant. Thanks for your interest.

lol. Sounds nearly like the excuse Dan used about the faux faxed documents.

Now, Churchill has popularized a his own genre: faux art by a faux Native American.

[Mo1]

I agree ... but apparently this seller doesn't seem to care

[Flightdeck]

"What have I forgotten?"

He also used to build bombs for the domestic terror group Weather Underground. I didn't read all 400 posts so sorry if it's the ninth time.

[TomGuy]

Ryan is the only one who can complain to ebay about copyright.

True. And he has good grounds, considering that Churchill has been commercially selling the art-renditions. Ryan could sue to recover all profits from those sells, plus damages. And, if Churchill has used copyrighted art of others, they, too can sue to recover any profits and damages. This could be more than the justification Churchill gave in that CBS4 tape interview--that if the buyers didn't have sense enough to know the artwork was 'faked', that's their faults. This could cost Churchill many dollars and potentially criminal charges, if the copyright holders pursue him.

[Drango]

http://news4colorado.com/homepage/

In all the surfing last night, I didn't see the video! Here it is...

[retrokitten]

That is really what ticks me off. If this guy were a conservative the media would be on him non-stop. But he's not so they don't care. That's why places like FR are so important. The next election cycle should be really interesting around here.

[radioactivereb]

I'm not a good "photo shopper" but this would also make a good "Can you draw Bambi?,if so you may qualify for the National Art School" etc. spoof advertisement...

[Bagehot]

I think he's a load of fun - far better to have him wounded, hanging in the breeze, talking his hateful garbage, getting further out there, more and more discredited, a clear fraud, than martyred on the altar of Bill O'Reilly. He's an asset to the right, and our representatives should be asking Ken Salazar EVERY DAY whether he supports the dismissal of this clown, asking Reid, and Pelosi the same thing.

It's better to use this than to have him become another left wing victim.