Posted on 02/24/2005 7:06:21 PM PST by wagglebee
An episode of the NBC sitcom "Committed, featuring two characters who flush a Communion wafer down a toilet, has created a firestorm of protest among Catholics.
During the February 22 broadcast, two non-Catholics are mistakenly given Holy Communion at a Catholic funeral Mass. As recounted by the Catholic League:
"Nate, who is Jewish, and Bowie, a Protestant, dont know what to do with the Eucharist, so they make several failed attempts to get rid of it. For example, they try slipping it into the pocket of a priest, dropping it on a tray of cheese and crackers, etc.
"At one point, the priest, who is portrayed as not knowing the difference between the Host and a cracker, goes to grab the 'cracker' from a tray of appetizers; he initially balks when he discovers that it is the last one. Then he changes his mind, saying, "Oh, what the hell.
"By far the most offensive scene occurs when Nate and Bowie accidentally flush what they think is the Host down the toilet."
Catholic League President William Donahue is demanding that NBC apologize.
"To say that Catholics are angry about this show would be an understatement - the outrage is visceral and intense," he said Thursday.
"NBC has made a direct frontal assault on Roman Catholicism, choosing to mock, trivialize and ridicule the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ," Donahue added. "More than an apology is needed. This episode should be retired for good, and that is what we will demand.
Neat story!
The problem is civil unions are no compromise. Research indicates the value of defending "marriage" is minimal if civil unions are granted. I don't have time to link to them now, but if you go to the National Review web site you will find a series of articles on the matter by Stanley Kurtz. The civil union experiment has been tried in Scandinavia, and the fact if the overwhelming majority of the damage is done just by granting civil unions. The fact is, we should be spendiong our energy fighting civil unions, because if we lose that, defending "marriage" is virtually pointless.
To trash a symbolic communion would also be a kind of blasphemy. The Bible teaches that irreverent conduct at the Lord's Supper is sufficient to incur [disciplinary] wrath.
These TV folks are too dense even to grok that.
I am very offended by your comment. I am a Southern Baptist, and I often pray with my Catholic friends, yet I've never seen your name. Are you saying that my prayers aren't good enough?
My life is given to my Lord, not a wafer. Join me in Bible study sometime and find out who the Lord of Hosts is.
On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, when they sacrificed the Passover lamb, his disciples said to Jesus, Where do you want us to go and prepare for you to eat the Passover? He sent two of his disciples and said to them, Go into the city and a man will meet you, carrying a jar of water. Follow him. Wherever he enters, say to the master of the house, The Teacher says, Where is my guest room where I may eat the Passover with my disciples? Then he will show you a large upper room furnished and ready. Make the preparations for us there.
(Mark 14:12-16)
The disciples then went off, entered the city, and found it just as he had told them; and they prepared the Passover.
So it may have been the master of the house who provided this, no?
You're digging yourself a deeper hole here. Please find out the words of absolution,
God forgives our sins, through the priest!
1449 The formula of absolution used in the Latin Church expresses the essential elements of this sacrament: the Father of mercies is the source of all forgiveness. He effects the reconciliation of sinners through the Passover of his Son and the gift of his Spirit, through the prayer and ministry of the Church:
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**My Catholic friends tell me that all non-Catholics are doomed.**
Not true.
I would really like to have links for those figures. Thanks
**My Catholic friends tell me that all non-Catholics are doomed.**
Not true.
The priest (and we) prays in the Eucharistic Prayer during the Mass:
"....with the entire people your son has gained for you."
unleavend bread -- wheat and water
And in this belief is an implication that 99.9999% of Catholics apparently don't take seriously. How do they know that they won't commit a deadly sin (lust, pride, envy, etc.) in their mind, then actually die (a stroke or heart attack can do it within seconds), before seeing a priest? I am an evangelical so this possibility does not haunt me; but were I a Catholic and actually believed that, I would go live in a monastery where I could room up as close to the priest as possible. Nothing would be too extreme an action to keep from going to hell -- absolutely nothing.
Is there anything that people won't be offended over. If you don't believe in the ritual, than it means nothing to you. It would mean nothing to me. And I am sick of people DEMANDING things. I don't care what side of the aisle it's coming from.
**Ignatius of Antioch, who knew some of the Apostles personally, on his way to his death in the arena at Rome in AD 110, wrote some of the Christian communities along the way telling them that those who denied that the Eucharist "is the flesh of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" were "heretics ... of whom we ought not even to speak"?**
Great quote!
I'm a Southern Baptist (or at least I used to be) and unless something has changed radically since my youth, Baptists don't see it as the Body of Christ.
**Do you think I should doubt my conversion now?**
Did you ever think about the fact that you are being called to further conversion right now?
**he may make an announcement because of the likelihood that somebody may not know about/understand the Catholic practice.**
And the guidelines are printed on the inside cover of the missalettes! Wow! Anyone who reads can figure it out!
You're welcome!
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