[TheForceOfOne]

Peter Jennings, the last surviving member of Heaven's Gate. It seems he missed the last flight home. Hey Peter! Phoooone Hooooome!

[Fledermaus]

What...Art Bell not doing enough?

[my_pointy_head_is_sharp]

I seen a UFO.

Eeeeeeeek! It's "saw", people! Saw! Why do all those UFO-sighters use the phrase "I seen"?

[Lockbar]

ALL YOUR BASE..... oh, never mind.

[alrea]

really neat key words! followrather, overlordrus, swampgas

[Danae]

"trust no one"

[cgbg]

I have a confession to make before starting this long post with my comments on the Jennings presentation. I have not read most of the more than 700 that preceded me because that would take as long as watching the entire show did last night. :-)

So if I am repeating something some wise Freeper said three hundred posts ago I apologize. :-)

(1) The first hour had lots of military pilots, policeman, witnesses I hadn't heard before, some debunkers, a fair cross-section of UFO-world. Alan Hynek's career as coverup artist converted to believer was covered faithfully, and imho that the best part of the show.

(2) Then the show got into Roswell, covered the discovery of debris and the favorable press coverage, then the Air Force "balloon story" and the favorable coverage of that. Jennings mentioned that the press in those days were very gullible.

(3) Then Jennings started to prove just how gullible he was by swallowing hook, link, and sinker the 1990s version of the balloon. Jennings mentioned in one sentence that allegedly there were glyphs on this balloon. He presented no evidence of such and then dismissed the whole Roswell matter as a "myth" rolling out the kooks and nuts and treating the Roswell believers like Swiftboat Vets. Yikes!

There was such irony here as Jennings laughed at the press of the 1940s and then repeated their blunders five minutes later!

(4) Then Jennings moved into the abduction fray. (Oh God, I thought, this could get ugly. :-))

He tried to argue that the abductees were normal people suffering from sleep disorders. He pulled out two Harvard professors to support that view. What he didn't discuss were daytime abduction stories and the other Harvard professor who thinks abductions are real. (Mack is his name if anyone cares.)

(5) At the end he had a cool CUNY physics prof talking about wormholes and how star travel might work.

------ Sometimes when you look at a MSM presentation it is more interesting what they _don't_ talk about--since in my experience _that_ is where "the truth" is more likely to be found.

If you are really interested in this subject imho you really need to be familiar with:

--Jacques Vallee--He has the best books of the subject imho. He tries to use the scientific method in this strange field.

--Majestic--There has been a lot of ink supporting and debunking this claim of a secret government organization with alien stuff in their warehouses.

--The "suicide" of James Forrestal. Years ago the JBS published a great book that persuaded me the guy was murdered. Was it about Communists--or aliens?

--Other theories that might explain the UFO phenomenon including Jung's collective unconscious, time travel (in combination with, perhaps) Gaia theory, interdimensional travel.

This is a field that has always interested me, and I have tried hard to keep an open mind on it.

Jennings should have stopped his show at one hour because he got deep into debunking mode at the expense of "objective" journalism in hour two.

[Quix]

Was trying to get to the original post your COMMENTS section to see how many views there were.

Do you have a shortcut link for that page? I scrolled through all your posts way past the date time and still couldn't pull it up unless I just scanned past it.

BTW, you sure seem to have 'a thing' for posting pics! LOL.

[Disambiguator]

When I first heard that "Petah" was doing a show on UFOs, the first thing that occurred to me is that he finally has some appropriate material. This show is what the MSM/LSM/Dino-Media are all about in terms of relevance, accuracy, etc.

[Final Authority]

Anything for a ratings point or two. Pathetic.

[jacksonstate]

Ever seen a cow eat mustard?

[Old Phone Man]

Great program. I wish I'd taped it.

[cmsgop]

I missed it, Will this be on again ??????????

[A CA Guy]

50% including I believe in UFOs. But all UFOs are is unidentified flying objects.

I figure UFOs are military craft and that kind of stuff, not illegal aliens from Mars.

[beezdotcom]

you will be informed that the Air Force conducted a 22-year investigation that ended in 1969 and concluded that UFOs are not a threat to national security and are of no scientific interest.

This is the sort of coarsened doublespeak that hacks me off. They might be able say this for UFOs that have been re-classified as IFOs - but what if I'm the first guy to see the new Russian super-secret stealth plane make an incursion into our airspace? That would certainly start off as a "UFO", and it would DEFINITELY be a threat to national security.

[Mmmike]

I take it something has just happened that would make some high-profile liberals look very, very bad if only it became widely known.

[Mulder]

I've always maintained that there's nothing wrong with a space goblin that can't be fixed with a 12 guage shotgun.

Such would be a close encounter of the last kind.