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To: traumer
I have a confession to make before starting this long post with my comments on the Jennings presentation. I have not read most of the more than 700 that preceded me because that would take as long as watching the entire show did last night. :-)

So if I am repeating something some wise Freeper said three hundred posts ago I apologize. :-)

(1) The first hour had lots of military pilots, policeman, witnesses I hadn't heard before, some debunkers, a fair cross-section of UFO-world. Alan Hynek's career as coverup artist converted to believer was covered faithfully, and imho that the best part of the show.

(2) Then the show got into Roswell, covered the discovery of debris and the favorable press coverage, then the Air Force "balloon story" and the favorable coverage of that. Jennings mentioned that the press in those days were very gullible.

(3) Then Jennings started to prove just how gullible he was by swallowing hook, link, and sinker the 1990s version of the balloon. Jennings mentioned in one sentence that allegedly there were glyphs on this balloon. He presented no evidence of such and then dismissed the whole Roswell matter as a "myth" rolling out the kooks and nuts and treating the Roswell believers like Swiftboat Vets. Yikes!

There was such irony here as Jennings laughed at the press of the 1940s and then repeated their blunders five minutes later!

(4) Then Jennings moved into the abduction fray. (Oh God, I thought, this could get ugly. :-))

He tried to argue that the abductees were normal people suffering from sleep disorders. He pulled out two Harvard professors to support that view. What he didn't discuss were daytime abduction stories and the other Harvard professor who thinks abductions are real. (Mack is his name if anyone cares.)

(5) At the end he had a cool CUNY physics prof talking about wormholes and how star travel might work.

------ Sometimes when you look at a MSM presentation it is more interesting what they _don't_ talk about--since in my experience _that_ is where "the truth" is more likely to be found.

If you are really interested in this subject imho you really need to be familiar with:

--Jacques Vallee--He has the best books of the subject imho. He tries to use the scientific method in this strange field.

--Majestic--There has been a lot of ink supporting and debunking this claim of a secret government organization with alien stuff in their warehouses.

--The "suicide" of James Forrestal. Years ago the JBS published a great book that persuaded me the guy was murdered. Was it about Communists--or aliens?

--Other theories that might explain the UFO phenomenon including Jung's collective unconscious, time travel (in combination with, perhaps) Gaia theory, interdimensional travel.

This is a field that has always interested me, and I have tried hard to keep an open mind on it.

Jennings should have stopped his show at one hour because he got deep into debunking mode at the expense of "objective" journalism in hour two.
730 posted on 02/25/2005 3:33:16 AM PST by cgbg (Jodi--Stop Pooping In The Living Room!)
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To: cgbg

Well said.

Especially the part about what the MSM do NOT say is often MORE interesting.


744 posted on 02/25/2005 4:02:19 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: cgbg
Let's face it if you have any history at all in the ufo controversy Jennings only pierced the tip of the iceberg. Also failing to mention George Noory or dozens of other top ufo researchers left his credibility "wanting" IMHO.
750 posted on 02/25/2005 4:06:08 AM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: cgbg

I went to bed once the abductee stories started. Nothing new up to that point for me, so I doubted that section would have anything new either.

Thanks for the synopsis.


802 posted on 02/25/2005 9:21:35 AM PST by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
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cgbg said,

'... it is more interesting what they _don't_ talk about -- since in my experience _that_ is where "the truth" is more likely to be found.

'If you are really interested in this subject imho you really need to be familiar with:

'--Jacques Vallee--He has the best books of the subject imho. He tries to use the scientific method in this strange field.

'--Majestic--There has been a lot of ink supporting and debunking this claim of a secret government organization with alien stuff in their warehouses.

'--The "suicide" of James Forrestal. Years ago the JBS published a great book that persuaded me the guy was murdered. ...'


Highlighting this,
JM


1,033 posted on 03/06/2005 2:55:52 PM PST by JockoManning (www.biblegateway.com)
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