1 posted on
02/24/2005 3:55:41 PM PST by
traumer
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To: traumer
Peter Jennings, the last surviving member of Heaven's Gate. It seems he missed the last flight home. Hey Peter! Phoooone Hooooome!
352 posted on
02/24/2005 6:20:03 PM PST by
TheForceOfOne
(Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
To: traumer
What...Art Bell not doing enough?
561 posted on
02/24/2005 8:01:01 PM PST by
Fledermaus
(I Googled "Democrat+Sane" and got no hits.)
To: traumer
I seen a UFO.
Eeeeeeeek! It's "saw", people! Saw! Why do all those UFO-sighters use the phrase "I seen"?
To: traumer
ALL YOUR BASE..... oh, never mind.
619 posted on
02/24/2005 8:33:27 PM PST by
Lockbar
(March toward the sound of the guns.)
To: traumer
really neat key words! followrather, overlordrus, swampgas
621 posted on
02/24/2005 8:35:16 PM PST by
alrea
(HELP WANTED. New Jersey Director of Homeland Defense: must be willing performer & cute.)
To: traumer
702 posted on
02/24/2005 10:14:22 PM PST by
Danae
(In waking a Tiger, use a long stick - R. Heinlein)
To: traumer
I have a confession to make before starting this long post with my comments on the Jennings presentation. I have not read most of the more than 700 that preceded me because that would take as long as watching the entire show did last night. :-)
So if I am repeating something some wise Freeper said three hundred posts ago I apologize. :-)
(1) The first hour had lots of military pilots, policeman, witnesses I hadn't heard before, some debunkers, a fair cross-section of UFO-world. Alan Hynek's career as coverup artist converted to believer was covered faithfully, and imho that the best part of the show.
(2) Then the show got into Roswell, covered the discovery of debris and the favorable press coverage, then the Air Force "balloon story" and the favorable coverage of that. Jennings mentioned that the press in those days were very gullible.
(3) Then Jennings started to prove just how gullible he was by swallowing hook, link, and sinker the 1990s version of the balloon. Jennings mentioned in one sentence that allegedly there were glyphs on this balloon. He presented no evidence of such and then dismissed the whole Roswell matter as a "myth" rolling out the kooks and nuts and treating the Roswell believers like Swiftboat Vets. Yikes!
There was such irony here as Jennings laughed at the press of the 1940s and then repeated their blunders five minutes later!
(4) Then Jennings moved into the abduction fray. (Oh God, I thought, this could get ugly. :-))
He tried to argue that the abductees were normal people suffering from sleep disorders. He pulled out two Harvard professors to support that view. What he didn't discuss were daytime abduction stories and the other Harvard professor who thinks abductions are real. (Mack is his name if anyone cares.)
(5) At the end he had a cool CUNY physics prof talking about wormholes and how star travel might work.
------ Sometimes when you look at a MSM presentation it is more interesting what they _don't_ talk about--since in my experience _that_ is where "the truth" is more likely to be found.
If you are really interested in this subject imho you really need to be familiar with:
--Jacques Vallee--He has the best books of the subject imho. He tries to use the scientific method in this strange field.
--Majestic--There has been a lot of ink supporting and debunking this claim of a secret government organization with alien stuff in their warehouses.
--The "suicide" of James Forrestal. Years ago the JBS published a great book that persuaded me the guy was murdered. Was it about Communists--or aliens?
--Other theories that might explain the UFO phenomenon including Jung's collective unconscious, time travel (in combination with, perhaps) Gaia theory, interdimensional travel.
This is a field that has always interested me, and I have tried hard to keep an open mind on it.
Jennings should have stopped his show at one hour because he got deep into debunking mode at the expense of "objective" journalism in hour two.
730 posted on
02/25/2005 3:33:16 AM PST by
cgbg
(Jodi--Stop Pooping In The Living Room!)
To: traumer
Was trying to get to the original post your COMMENTS section to see how many views there were.
Do you have a shortcut link for that page? I scrolled through all your posts way past the date time and still couldn't pull it up unless I just scanned past it.
BTW, you sure seem to have 'a thing' for posting pics! LOL.
755 posted on
02/25/2005 4:22:22 AM PST by
Quix
(HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
To: traumer
When I first heard that "Petah" was doing a show on UFOs, the first thing that occurred to me is that he finally has some appropriate material. This show is what the MSM/LSM/Dino-Media are all about in terms of relevance, accuracy, etc.
To: traumer
Anything for a ratings point or two. Pathetic.
To: traumer
Ever seen a cow eat mustard?
To: traumer
Great program. I wish I'd taped it.
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I missed it, Will this be on again ??????????
873 posted on
02/25/2005 2:52:30 PM PST by
cmsgop
(No Moleste Por Favor !!!!!!!!! No Moleste, Por Favor !!!!!!!!!)
To: traumer
50% including I believe in UFOs. But all UFOs are is unidentified flying objects.
I figure UFOs are military craft and that kind of stuff, not illegal aliens from Mars.
912 posted on
02/25/2005 11:39:46 PM PST by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: traumer
you will be informed that the Air Force conducted a 22-year investigation that ended in 1969 and concluded that UFOs are not a threat to national security and are of no scientific interest.
This is the sort of coarsened doublespeak that hacks me off. They might be able say this for UFOs that have been re-classified as IFOs - but what if I'm the first guy to see the new Russian super-secret stealth plane make an incursion into our airspace? That would certainly start off as a "UFO", and it would DEFINITELY be a threat to national security.
978 posted on
02/28/2005 5:52:55 AM PST by
beezdotcom
(I'm usually either right or wrong...)
To: traumer
I take it something has just happened that would make some high-profile liberals look very, very bad if only it became widely known.
992 posted on
02/28/2005 6:23:21 PM PST by
Mmmike
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I've always maintained that there's nothing wrong with a space goblin that can't be fixed with a 12 guage shotgun.
Such would be a close encounter of the last kind.
1,002 posted on
02/28/2005 7:40:04 PM PST by
Mulder
(“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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