Posted on 02/24/2005 12:27:21 PM PST by Calpernia
(snip)
(snip)
"Our mission is to go out and educate and inform everyone about the dangers that tobacco use has not only on the person that uses it, but with secondhand smoke, the community and businesses," said Elizabeth Segarra, the CAT coordinator for Hudson County.
Both Chiappone and Assemblyman Louis Manzo, D-Jersey City, have proposed anti-smoking bills that are pending in the Assembly.
One, which Manzo co-sponsored, would permit municipalities, local boards of health or regional health commissions to prohibit smoking indoors in all public places.
"Politics and what makes sense for public health don't always jibe," Manzo told the crowd of about 25. "But I think we're getting there, and I think a lot of the impetus behind the smoking ban throughout every public place in New Jersey is going to happen."
Manzo also talked about a bill he introduced that would create an early detection and education program to be used for a public information campaign on lung cancer in women. He pointed out that more women in New Jersey succumb to lung cancer than to breast cancer.
Chiappone talked about bills he is co-sponsoring that would limit smoking in cars with passengers under 16 years old, raise the minimum age to purchase tobacco to 21 from 18, and prohibit tobacco and alcohol advertising within 500 feet of schools.
According to CAT, 13,000 New Jersey residents die each year from tobacco-related diseases.
Even though New Jersey, and Hudson County in particular, has consistently received low marks on American Cancer Society smoking report cards, yesterday's meeting was the first that CAT's Hudson County chapter has put together in four years.
(snip)
(snip)
(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...
This issue is getting closer and closer to qualifying for your ping list.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1350364/posts?page=15#15
Not all of them.
I found it a little amusing how you and a number of other 'neighboring' states are saying how the ban failed in your states.
WHEN, one of the reasons being used to pass the ban (I unfortunately had to excerpt due to copyright rules) was that 'our neighboring states are doing it'.
>>>> Segarra credited this to a renewed concern about rates of smoking in a state that seems more and more out of step with the policies of its neighbors.
"We have neighboring states like New York, Rhode Island and Delaware that have already done this and shown that establishments don't lose business. On the contrary, they're much more productive," she said. "The job opportunities go up." <<<<<<<
How did you guys fight this?
OOPS...............
Good catch!!!
Fight against teaching same sex in the schools, abortion, porn etc. before this nonsense!
Raised Holy H*ll at public hearings and convinced enough of the councilmen that it was an over reach of government. We were lucky in that it was one councilman's personal mission and no one else on council was willing to get in there with him. I think, in the end, he was convinced, too, that it wasn't the role of government. He was a friend and he and I had long conversations about it, and shortly after our last long conversation he completely backed off of it and said he wouldn't try it again.
You are absolutely correct. They seem to have kinds of time and energy figuring out ways to control private property more than they already do - but seem to have any of either for doing things they should be. And the problem exists at all government levels..........from the tiniest town council through the halls of Congress........
My school doesn't teach those subjects.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
You guys don't get fired from your jobs for raising holy hell at council meetings?
And besides, the hell raised if and when it is, doesn't always enter the minutes.
IOW, voice doesn't matter.
They have too much time and they have a desire to "do good." All the good-doing is the problem, I think. I've told my wife that the road to a communist state is paved with good intentions. Because it's the government, any action it takes leads to one of two conclusions: It takes your money or limits your freedom. So the ultimate goal may be good and admirable (and that's usually open to debate, too) but the means to achieve that goal cost the rest of us money or freedom.
Just once I want a candidate seeking office who says, "Elect me and I'm going to do nothing for you and I'm going to give nothing to you."
One of the reasons it goes through the state without the fight is that in cities restaurant owners (in particular) are able to say, "I'll lose customers to the restaurants in the next city." But if it's state wide, no reastaurant owner in the middle of the state is going to care.
With those priorities, you will end up having to teach those things at home to your children, per the school approved presentation without the capability of varying the lesson to your preferences.
Private property rights far exceed what is being taught in skroools. (not that one shouldn't be concerned about the schools)
BTTT!!!!!!!
LOL
We don't get fired for raising hell at council meetings ... here it's a sport like bowling is in some places.
Since when did private property rights become nonsense?
Nico-Nazis have no business trying to shove their warped science down my throat. If you don't like to be around smoke, don't work in a bar or patronize an establishment frequented by smokers. End of story.
>>>"I'll lose customers to the restaurants in the next city." But if it's state wide, no reastaurant owner in the middle of the state is going to care.
There is a clause in this one to redefine and protect private facilities. ie., casinoes, VFWs and not sure what else falls under this clause.
Casinoes catches my eye the most.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.