Doug Grow: Kids, cookies, pizza, firearms

mpls star & sickle ^ | 2-24-05 | Doug Grow

[Rakkasan1]

Before the gun safety training class that a Minneapolis gun shop owner is planning for Minneapolis kids, all ammunition will be "secured."

Everyone agrees that's a good idea.

After that, though, questions arise about a plan by Mark Koscielski and his friend Joel Rosenberg to offer a free gun-safety program Friday evening at Koscielski's Guns and Ammo, 2926 Chicago Av. S.

The program is for children, 6 years old and up. Pizza and cookies will be served at the class, which is to "take the mystery -- and mystique -- out of guns."

Koscielski, who seems to thrive on agitating city officials and those who support gun control, says that he and Rosenberg are motivated by good intentions. Koscielski says he's weary of reading stories about shootings based on accidents or foolish behavior.

[Rakkasan1]

BANG

[ReeWalker]

So what is really the problem with what they are doing???

[Sender]

That is what "common-sense gun safety" is all about; teaching kids to be knowledgeable and safe around any guns they may encounter, not banning and demonizing common objects. It wasn't too long ago that any boy and most girls could go outside and shoot .22s without causing public panic and horrified visits from Social Services.

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

The problem, as always, is in Dougie-boy's mind.

[Just another Joe]

According to the gun grabbers?

These people are exposing youngsters to common sense training on weapons.

[SJSAMPLE]

Schools issue condoms and teach 6th graders to put condoms on with their mouths, "Because they're going to do it anyway, we may as well make it safe!"

Here, they sing a different tune.

[Rakkasan1]

I see no problem.other than it's Minneapolis. the kids will
probably be bringing their own guns.

Most LEOs support Eddie the Eagle as a good and effective program. Far more effective than "guns bad-end of story".

I'll never understand liberal hoplophobia

[Scouter7]

Long ago it was not unusual (at least in more rural areas)for high schools to sponsor small caliber rifle teams. Don't know it you ever got a "lettermans" jacket. It was considered part of learning to be responsible, for those who were so inclined. They also had junior ROTC groups, and these might be combined. Must have been before the '60s, when defending one's country became "bad." As I recall, the Left made much about the American soldier (rifleman) being obsolete in war. Only high altitude bombers would be used in the future. So, it was unnecessary for young people to know about guns, guns were bad, and the teams (and ROTC)largely went away. As we can see, the rifleman is no longer needed in war, and neither are guns; so the Left must have been right about that. On the other hand, there are those occasional police actions here and there, like 'Stan and Iraq. Wonder how many of our troops could have used earlier training.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

There was a time when shooting was a part of Cub Scout activities. We wore our uniforms to school in the 4th and 5th grade...

[Jack of all Trades]

Sounds like a fun time. This ain't rocket science here: one adult supervisor per child, one bullet per shot.

[Scouter7]

Ummm, yes. But you realize that Scouts are banned from many schools now. They are politically incorrect.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

It was a long time ago, before educated minds were twisted in academia.

[Scouter7]

What was I thinking, I must have forgotten so soon. The Department of Defense recently ordered that DOD bases and posts will NOT be permitted to sponsor the Scouts. That would be associating the government with religion...(?)

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Riiiiight !

[Ancesthntr]

Long ago it was not unusual (at least in more rural areas)for high schools to sponsor small caliber rifle teams. Don't know it you ever got a "lettermans" jacket. It was considered part of learning to be responsible, for those who were so inclined. They also had junior ROTC groups, and these might be combined. Must have been before the '60s, when defending one's country became "bad."

My uncle belonged to just such a rifle team in the mid-1960's. He and other members of the team carried their rifles to school slung over their backs, and left the rifles in their lockers. Oh, and no one shot their fellow classmates or even joked about doing so.

Now, try and guess WHERE my uncle went to school.

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...and the answer is: Queens, New York. Yes, in New York freakin' City, less than 40 years ago, a minor could actually carry a gun in the streets and put it in his locker at school without half the police force being called out to shoot him or drag him away for psychological counseling.