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The Dems' Hispanic problem
The Hill ^ | February 22, 2005 | Mark Mellman

Posted on 02/23/2005 1:26:01 PM PST by RWR8189

Imagine the surprise!  

Before November, public polls showed Sen. John Kerry with 65 percent of the Latino vote. “Kerry is winning the Latino vote by a margin greater than Al Gore’s,” one analyst proclaimed.

Then, on election night, the exit polls showed Kerry getting nine points less than Gore had among Latinos. (The Kerry campaign’s internal polling had revealed consistent sub par performance among Latinos.)

Shortly after the election, I wrote here that for too long Democrats had considered Latinos part of the base, failing to acknowledge changes and contradictions in their political views. For example, we found in 2002 that while Latinos identified as Democrats, unlike other partisans, they bore relatively little ill will toward Republicans — a dangerous situation for us.

A couple of weeks later, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus took an even stronger position, urging that the community no longer be treated as part of the base at all.

At the time, controversy swirled around the numbers. The NEP exit poll said just 53 percent of Latinos voted for Kerry, while the Velasquez Institute poll said it was 68 percent.

Now, with the full exit-poll results in hand, the data speak more clearly. Democrats did lose meaningful support among Latino voters. But our problem is concentrated with the relatively assimilated, English-dominant and bilingual segment of the community.

It was quickly apparent that the NEP poll had fallen prey to “clustering bias”. Most of the Hispanic interviews in the national poll were from just a few precincts.

Combining the 51 separate state exit polls provides a more accurate portrait of the Latino vote. Applying NEP’s weighting system to these data yields a national vote of 58 percent Kerry, 40 percent Bush. Our own analysis of their data suggests it was 57 percent to 41 percent. Thus, the decline in Latino support was a less precipitous, but still significant, four to five points.

While polls still differ on the precise level of Kerry’s Latino support, they all converge on a decline of four to seven points compared to 2000. Over a longer period, the declines are even steeper. Dukakis garnered 65-69 percent of the Latino vote, a far cry from Kerry’s 57 percent.

Both the problems facing the pre election public polls and the challenges confronting Democrats can be understood clearly by examining the underlying data.

Consultants who specialize in Latino politics have long been directing Democrats’ attention to Spanish-dominant recent immigrants. Those are the easiest voters to poll, but, important as those voters are, they are not where the problem seems to be.

Latinos who voted for Kerry in very large numbers tended to be poorer, Spanish-speaking and living in Latino neighborhoods. Those less likely to have voted for Kerry include better-off, English-dominant and bilingual folks who live mainly in more diverse neighborhoods.

According to the Annenberg polling, the decline in Democratic support among Latinos came almost entirely in English-language interviews. Kerry did just one point worse than Gore had among Spanish-dominant voters.

Our analysis of the NEP data demonstrates that 70 percent of Latinos in heavily Latino neighborhoods voted for Kerry, compared to just 52 percent among the quarter of the Latino electorate living in precincts that are less than 5 percent Latino.

Religiosity plays a role in this community, as in nearly all others. Kerry’s support was 26 points higher among Hispanics who go to church more than once a week, than among those who rarely attend.

Recapturing the enthusiasm of the Hispanic community is a central task for Democrats. To be successful, we must first admit we have a problem and locate it with precision. Only then will we be able to develop the strategies and tactics to stanch the losses.

Mellman is president of The Mellman Group and has worked for Democratic candidates and causes since 1982, including Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) last year.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; cubans; cubanvote; hispanics; hispanicvote; kerrydefeat; latinovote; mexicans
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1 posted on 02/23/2005 1:26:07 PM PST by RWR8189
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"they bore relatively little ill will toward Republicans — a dangerous situation for us."

Only haters are assuredly Democrat.

2 posted on 02/23/2005 1:28:14 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Democrat Obstructionists will be Daschled!)
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To: RWR8189

"Latinos who voted for Kerry in very large numbers tended to be poorer, Spanish-speaking and living in Latino neighborhoods. Those less likely to have voted for Kerry include better-off, English-dominant and bilingual folks who live mainly in more diverse neighborhoods."


So, it's in the Dem's best interest to see that Hispanics don't assimilate. Surprise, surprise, this (multiculturalism) is one of the Dem's core tenets.


3 posted on 02/23/2005 1:31:04 PM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: RWR8189
"Kerry’s support was 26 points higher among Hispanics who go to church more than once a week, than among those who rarely attend."

This is so counterintuitive, that one wonders if the word "higher" were inaccurately inserted instead of "lower."

In every other known group, religiousity is correlated with Republicanism. I suspect the author made a mistake.

4 posted on 02/23/2005 1:31:17 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Democrat Obstructionists will be Daschled!)
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To: RWR8189
"To be successful, we must first admit we have a problem and locate it with precision."

Anti-Catholicism comes to mind.

5 posted on 02/23/2005 1:33:05 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Democrat Obstructionists will be Daschled!)
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To: Brad Cloven

Actually, one exit study had Bush winning 61% of Evangelical Hispanics. Put more evangelists in the Latino neighborhoods and we should be fine.


6 posted on 02/23/2005 1:36:11 PM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: RWR8189
Latinos who voted for Kerry in very large numbers tended to be poorer, Spanish-speaking and living in Latino neighborhoods. Those less likely to have voted for Kerry include better-off, English-dominant and bilingual folks who live mainly in more diverse neighborhoods.

...Recapturing the enthusiasm of the Hispanic community is a central task for Democrats. To be successful, we must first admit we have a problem and locate it with precision. Only then will we be able to develop the strategies and tactics to stanch the losses.

Apparently, Democrats must work harder to keep Latinos poor, illiterate and segregated to protect their base. Those 'wascally wepublicans' have been educating the Latinos, making them more affluent and accepting them into their communities. That just ain't right...needs to be stopped!

7 posted on 02/23/2005 1:36:51 PM PST by CMAC51
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To: RWR8189

Great article...it really reveals how the Democrats are only concerned about soliciting more votes and not really doing anything for the people keeping them elected.

"We need to figure out what we need to say to the people to keep them blindly supporting us." pssshhh.


8 posted on 02/23/2005 1:37:18 PM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on.....)
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"Surprise, surprise, this (multiculturalism) is one of the Dem's core tenets"

Exactly, and not only with Hispanics. If you can separate everyone, each group becomes dependent on Big Government for a handout or revenge against opposing groups, rather than everyone being inter-dependent and opposed to the real problem ... Big Government.


9 posted on 02/23/2005 1:40:18 PM PST by No.6
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To: RWR8189
Recapturing the enthusiasm of the Hispanic community is a central task for Democrats. To be successful, we must first admit we have a problem and locate it with precision. Only then will we be able to develop the strategies and tactics to stanch the losses.


Why am I always dismayed when I read this type of tripe?

What the H*ll is this loon thinking?
Repackage the message to target Hispanics, strategies and tactics to stanch the losses, but do not ever, under any circumstances, think that it is the message itself that is wrong?
10 posted on 02/23/2005 1:40:45 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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I am telling you... Social Issues are important to people of hispanic ancestry - I hate the label 'Latino' :) - Sure we have our share of perverts like any group (including priests!), but most people are God fearing people. And luckily for us - as a group - being a homosexual is not considered 'cool.' Quite the opposite, being 'macho' is where is at! And yes some might tend to over do it, sometimes with negative results. Macho, for us means, just being a real man. Like Bush [smile]. :)
11 posted on 02/23/2005 1:41:02 PM PST by ElPatriota
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To: RWR8189

The Gay Marriage issue cost Kerry a lot of votes. Hispanics are traditionally Catholic and are not very accepting of Gays. They the Gay Marriage issue as Gays getting in their face and were not willing to support a candidate that did.

All illegal immigration is a hot topic issue with Mexican Americans but not in the way most Anglos think. Mexican Americans are not very supportive of illegal immigrants and see them a burden. A strong stance against illegal immigration would go a long way in gaining Hispanic support for the Republicans.


12 posted on 02/23/2005 1:41:34 PM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: Brad Cloven
For example, we found in 2002 that while Latinos identified as Democrats, unlike other partisans, they bore relatively little ill will toward Republicans — a dangerous situation for us.

Thats the first thing I saw. They don't irrationally hate Republicans. Most likely because they are assimilating and share many Republican values, like traditional marraige.

13 posted on 02/23/2005 1:44:07 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Little Pig
"Latinos who voted for Kerry in very large numbers tended to be poorer, Spanish-speaking and living in Latino neighborhoods. Those less likely to have voted for Kerry include better-off, English-dominant and bilingual folks who live mainly in more diverse neighborhoods."

Just like any other group they will vote their interests, and as they become more educated, more settled, they will vote more like the general population.

14 posted on 02/23/2005 1:46:02 PM PST by oldbrowser (They're not the MSM.........they are the AGENDA MEDIA)
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To: Little Pig

If poorer, Spanish-speaking Hispanics are more likely to vote Democrat, then the obvious solution is to make sure more recent immigrants (legal or illegal) vote. Any effort by the Republicans to prevent non-citizens from voting can be easily denounced as racist.


15 posted on 02/23/2005 1:48:16 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: RWR8189
It'll be interesting to see how the Dems lure Hispanics into the PC world of homosexuality politics, anti-religious politics, and feminist politics.
16 posted on 02/23/2005 1:49:19 PM PST by Noachian (We're all one judge away from tyranny.)
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But our problem is concentrated with the relatively assimilated, English-dominant and bilingual segment of the community.

Whether the Hispanics end up voting like the Jews or like the Irish will go a long way towards determining which party holds power. Most ethnic groups vote based on other characteristics...a wealthy religious X is much more likely to vote R while a poor secular X is much more likely to vote D. There are exceptions, like Blacks and Jews. The question is whether Hispanics end up voting like Blacks and Jews as a relatively solid D block, or as Irish, Italians Germans and Poles do...based on characteristics other than ethnicity.

17 posted on 02/23/2005 1:52:15 PM PST by blanknoone (Steyn: "The Dems are all exit and no strategy")
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To: Brad Cloven
In every other known group, religiousity is correlated with Republicanism. I suspect the author made a mistake.

I wondered the same thing. Could it have to do with identifying with Kerry as a Catholic?

I suspect this is a typo too, but I can't help but wonder.

18 posted on 02/23/2005 1:54:19 PM PST by Terabitten (A quick reminder to the liberals. The election in Iraq was done NOT IN YOUR NAME.)
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To: RWR8189
Before November, public polls showed Sen. John Kerry with 65 percent of the Latino vote.

Hah! If you think the pre-election media polls were spun to make it look like Kerry had momentum, you should've seen the exit polls they tried to sell us on election day!


19 posted on 02/23/2005 1:54:24 PM PST by Nick Danger (The only way out is through)
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To: RWR8189

John Kerry's error was to speak French before Hispanic audiences.


20 posted on 02/23/2005 1:56:20 PM PST by alloysteel ("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
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