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The Human Race
none, opinion | 2-21-05

Posted on 02/21/2005 3:19:37 PM PST by Indy Pendance

What constitutes the categories of the human race? I've learned from early on, it's Caucasoid, Negroid and Mongoloid, three races. We hear today that racism is of Jews or Arabs or Mexicans or whatever is perceived as a minority group or a political hot topic, ie, Arabs, politicians are quick to use the ‘race’ card when referring to specific groups of people. There are Irish Mexicans, Black Jews and Chinese Arabs. So, what is today’s definition of racism? And how can we correct today's PC perception of the races?


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1 posted on 02/21/2005 3:19:37 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
Racial Vanities for one........... :*)
2 posted on 02/21/2005 3:20:52 PM PST by cmsgop (No Moleste Por Favor !!!!!!!!! No Moleste, Por Favor !!!!!!!!!)
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To: Indy Pendance
>What constitutes the categories of the human race?

Well, that is easy!
There is Anna, and there is
everyone else! Next.

3 posted on 02/21/2005 3:23:26 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Indy Pendance

I believe there is technically only one race. Neanderthal might have been another race but we are all one with various and shifting ethnicities. 10,000 years ago the inhabitants of Ireland and Egypt were nothing, ethnically, like the people who live in those places today.


4 posted on 02/21/2005 3:23:51 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: theFIRMbss
Returned your serve:


5 posted on 02/21/2005 3:24:48 PM PST by freedumb2003 (If you oppose jihad, you are not a Muslim. If you support jihad, you are my enemy.)
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To: Indy Pendance

Stanley Garn (1971) defines 32 Large Local Races. For example, in Europe he has Northwest European, Northeast European, Alpine, and Mediterranean.


6 posted on 02/21/2005 3:26:09 PM PST by Coyoteman
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To: Indy Pendance
Today it would probably be more appropriate to refer to such phenomenon as 'ethnicism' versus 'racism.'
7 posted on 02/21/2005 3:26:30 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: Indy Pendance

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/racism.asp


8 posted on 02/21/2005 3:28:04 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: muir_redwoods

I kind of am leaning your way. They were unique individuals. I wonder if we evoloved from them. This is NOT AN EVO THREAD!


9 posted on 02/21/2005 3:28:11 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
There are a whole mix of thoughts here. Just a few thoughts of my own. Mexican is a nationality. Arab is a language and not a race. And the use of the word "race" has taken a big change from the 19th century when people might speak of the Italian race and the British race. Today we're using the term ethnicity.
10 posted on 02/21/2005 3:28:41 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism is proof that intelligent people can ignore as much as the ignorant.)
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To: Coyoteman

Aren't those just subsets of the original 3 classifications?


11 posted on 02/21/2005 3:28:47 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

ping BTW, there are two different discussions in this thread IMHO. There's the definition itself which is a biological/athropological issue and then there is the political defintion that exists in America, from past to present.


12 posted on 02/21/2005 3:33:45 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Indy Pendance

Yes, "subraces" technically. Very few people use them.

I don't think anything beyong Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid is useful, to, say, forensic pathologists out examining skeletons.


Arabs are Caucasians with a decent bit of Black mixing in North Africa, they're definitely not a race.

People seem to be really irritated by them being Caucasians for some reason, on FR, I've noticed.


13 posted on 02/21/2005 3:35:06 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: cyborg
I've seen that. There are 3 distinct races, all others might fall into a 'subset' but, can be traced to the three original races. As your Aboriginal example, they are a caucasoid and mongoloid combination, maybe some negroid there too. The point is, we all have these three combinations in us, one way or another.

Which is leading t race bating. It's time our politicians got out of the 1960's and into the 21st century. We really don't care what your skin color is or the slant of your eyes, we care what you are like as a human beings. Give the race thing a rest, it doesn't matter. The only ones making an issue of it are democrats and the media.

14 posted on 02/21/2005 3:35:28 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
And how can we correct today's PC perception of the races?

Buy em tickets to Daytona, then take em to the gun range. I'm into diversity... I like all kinds of races... motor cross, dirt track, open wheel, stockcar... you name it...

15 posted on 02/21/2005 3:35:31 PM PST by glock rocks (WYGIWYG)
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To: Indy Pendance

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Evidence+to+suggest+that+evolution+is+impossible


16 posted on 02/21/2005 3:36:08 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Indy Pendance
Yes and no. The actual point is that you can create as many races as you want. Want more than 32? I am partial to Subalpine myself.

You can create different races depending on which traits you consider important. You get one set of races when skin color is important and another set when you use blood types or fingerprint patterns. Many traits are directly linked to climate (hair form, skin color), while others are inherited but not linked to climate (fingerprint types, ear wax types, etc.).

The point is that you can create any number of races depending on how many or few traits you use, and which types of traits.

And, the way "Race" is used now relates more to ethnic group, as other posters have noted.

17 posted on 02/21/2005 3:36:36 PM PST by Coyoteman
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To: Indy Pendance

Aw, shucks. I thought this was a discussion of the Daytona 500 race.


18 posted on 02/21/2005 3:36:36 PM PST by El Gran Salseron ( The equal opportunity male chauvinist pig. :-))
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To: freedumb2003
"Hence I look at individual differences, though of small interest to the systematist, as of high importance for us, as being the first step towards such slight varieties as are barely thought worth recording in works on natural history. And I look at varieties which are in any degree more distinct and permanent, as a step leading to more strongly marked and more permanent varieties; and at these latter, as leading to sub-species, and to species . . Hence I believe a well marked variety may be justly called an incipient species."

19 posted on 02/21/2005 3:36:44 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Indy Pendance

I used to get more questions about my racial makeup from liberals, and they weren't happy about my answers. Doesn't matter. I think the people perpetuating much of the racism today are libs and media who need a newsstory. There will always be conflicts, but we know what the MSM is up to.


20 posted on 02/21/2005 3:37:42 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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