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Blueprint Calls for Bigger, More Powerful Government
Washington Post ^ | 2/9/05 | Jim VandeHei

Posted on 02/21/2005 2:12:24 PM PST by theworkersarefew

Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.), said: "The Republican majority, left to its own devices from 1995 to 2000, was a party committed to limited government and restoring the balances of federalism with the states. Clearly, President Bush has had a different vision, and that vision has resulted in education and welfare policies that have increased the size and scope of government."

Pence, an influential leader of House conservatives, said 50 Republicans gathered in Baltimore this past week and discussed, among other things, an overwhelming desire to protest the expansion of government by opposing Bush's education plan for high school students. While only 33 House Republicans opposed the No Child Left Behind law in the first term, Pence predicted that a significantly larger number will vote against expanding the program to cover high schools. Michael Franc of the Heritage Foundation, a pro-Bush think tank, agreed. "It's a non-starter" in the minds of a large number of Republicans, he said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; mikepence; pence; trueconservative
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To: BransonRevival

Well, I doubt we'll get immigration hashed out by the end of the night, so I'm going to call it a day. We'll save this for another time.


41 posted on 02/21/2005 3:26:51 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: BransonRevival
"They're not going to vote for any career politicians."

AMEN. I'm done voting for the slimy politicians who masquerade as conservative principled servants.
42 posted on 02/21/2005 3:30:11 PM PST by Conservative Goddess (Veritas vos Liberabit, in Vino, Veritas....QED, Vino vos Liberabit)
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To: Publius Valerius
"So? If they can't cut the mustard, they can't cut it. I believe people should EARN their job and EARN their money. You don't get a free pass in my book for being from America. If a Mexican comes in and he can do the job better & cheaper, you will be out the door in a New York minute"

They can't "do it cheaper" without falling back heavily on American taxpayer subsidies. That's why so many of us think they should be out the door in a NY minute.

If businesses can't "cut the mustard" without cheap labor subsides, they should go out of business. That's the way the market goes...

43 posted on 02/21/2005 3:44:02 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: jagrmeister

Ok, then how does he get his message out and his concerns aired?


44 posted on 02/21/2005 3:48:33 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: theworkersarefew; freepatriot32

Pence has it right on this one. Why won't Republicans shrink government?


45 posted on 02/21/2005 3:53:19 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/tsunami_tyranny.htm)
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To: BransonRevival; Happy2BMe; reelfoot; LauraleeBraswell; worldclass; ChuckK; Justanobody; Badray; ...

Mike Pence in 2008!!!!


46 posted on 02/21/2005 4:02:01 PM PST by Gipper08
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To: jagrmeister

" Pence said the only reason Republicans have not paid a political price
for overseeing a huge growth in government has been the failure of
Democrats to field a deficit hawk as a presidential candidate and to
capitalize on the public appetite for smaller government. "I think to the
extent Republicans depart from the historic commitment, we do so at our
peril."

Yet most of Pence's colleagues have not fought Bush's expansion of the
federal government. They recently rejected budget rules that could help
slow spending and voted in large numbers for the entire Bush agenda
over the past four years. A large majority supports Bush's plans to grow
the federal role over lawsuits, marriages and other social policies."

Pence is not trying to take the White House,he is trying to save the party.


47 posted on 02/21/2005 4:06:07 PM PST by Gipper08
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To: Publius Valerius

"Pence’s comments in Wednesday’s Washington Post about conservative opposition to the swelling federal government caused a stir on Capitol Hill and led to a visit from White House liaisons Thursday, he said.

“What I pledged to them is I will continue to favor them with candor about areas where the members of Congress are supporting and opposing the administration,” Pence said.
“I think there are millions of Americans who would be heartened to know that there are over 100 members of Congress committed to limited government and traditional moral values.”
“Conservatives are ready to come roaring back and to hold the line on any further intrusion into education on a federal level,” Pence said."

Mike Pence is our last best hope for limited government in Washington,no one knows who he is as it is,and you do not want him to talk to the media? Sanford has been more anti-Bush than Pence.


48 posted on 02/21/2005 4:14:04 PM PST by Gipper08
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To: BransonRevival; theworkersarefew; pctech
If we hope to have a true conservative in 2008,Mike Pence is our only hope to unite the Reagan wing.No conservative would have a problem getting behind Pence.Sanford,Allen,Brownback,etc,etc all lead to division in one way or another.Check your Freepmail.
49 posted on 02/21/2005 4:43:10 PM PST by Gipper08
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To: theworkersarefew

BTTT


50 posted on 02/21/2005 4:46:31 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: AVNevis; JustAnotherSavage; writer33; cyborg; EagleUSA; Wolfstar; PatrickHenry; leadpenny; ...

A true Conservative in 2008!


51 posted on 02/21/2005 4:57:37 PM PST by Gipper08
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To: Gipper08; Reagan Man; Reaganwuzthebest; PhilDragoo; devolve; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; FBD; ...
Bigger more powerful goverment!?

Surely, these are Democrat liberals calling for such idiocy.

(Unless that is, somehow a larger gubmint will stop the Mexican illegal invasion.)

52 posted on 02/21/2005 7:03:24 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Long ago and far, far away there once was a shining land they called "America" . . .)
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To: Happy2BMe

Pence is a man who can not only save the party but bring it back to its traditional values, principles and purpose. Big Government republicans who are afraid to stand up for conservative values should feel shame for misusing the power that the American people and Jesus Christ have bestowed upon them. Mike Pence is not a divider, but rather a uniter who brings principled leadership and optimism to the forefront of Conservative politics. He is a man of courage, discipline and honor. I, as well as all of America, would be blessed to have a man of such greatness be our leader and commander in Chief. God Bless America and God Bless Mike Pence


53 posted on 02/21/2005 7:22:21 PM PST by theworkersarefew
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To: Txsleuth

Yes, Pence is the real deal.

I also like Sanford, on a fiscal level-but Pence is better overall.


54 posted on 02/21/2005 8:02:27 PM PST by RockinRight (It's NOT too early to start talking about 2006...or 2008.)
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To: newgeezer

Yeah, the cost of that Viagra is pretty *stiff* from what I hear.


55 posted on 02/21/2005 8:04:05 PM PST by RockinRight (It's NOT too early to start talking about 2006...or 2008.)
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To: Annie03; AntiBurr; Baby Bear; BJClinton; BlackbirdSST; BroncosFan; Capitalism2003; dAnconia; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
56 posted on 02/21/2005 8:10:32 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: Happy2BMe
(Unless that is, somehow a larger gubmint will stop the Mexican illegal invasion.)

Exactly. If there's anything we should be spending money on it's securing our ports and borders. Whatever it takes as far as I'm concerned.

57 posted on 02/21/2005 8:18:10 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: theworkersarefew

As a personal acquaintance of The Hon. Mr. Pence I can personally attest to you other posters (though I have been a lerker here on FR for a long time, I only finally found out how to use this today, and seeing that the next Commander-In-Chief is such an important topic I had to learn how to post here!). Mr. Pence is a true Christian, and non-compromiser that will put faith, and family first. Although we are all human beings whom sin once in a while, I happend to know that Mr. Pence endevers to not only apply his faith to all the issues that he must argue in front of Congress, and the United States' People, but he is not unwilling to boldly speak the truth (in love: see Ephesians), and we should all pray for his continued importantce and blessing in our Nation's capital, and in the forefront of 21st century politics (debate) in the USA (and even the world). Not that Mr. Pence is lifted up as himself, but as a tool for Christ to spread his message to the people's of the world; as that means at times that means we needs an Iron hammer to wield , and an iron shield to hold fast against the blows of the enemey! I say let that man be The Hon. Mike Pence of Columbus, IN. Lets us continue to pray for this Godly man, and that Christ keeps him in the center of His will. God Bless, Jeremy;
I wholy endorse Mike Pence-08! (BTW I interned with Mr. Pence in the summer of 04). I am so blessed to have him as my Congressional Representative!


58 posted on 02/21/2005 10:00:09 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: Publius Valerius
"I've got no problem with "illegal" immigration. If Congress voted to open the border with Mexico tomorrow, I'd be fine with that."

-Really? Well most of our Founding Fathers had problems with uncontrolled immigration, including Washington, Jefferson, and Hamilton.
Here's a couple quotes, I have several more on file if you're interested...


"...Suppose 20 millions of republican Americans thrown all of a sudden into France, what would be the condition of that kingdom? If it would be more turbulent, less happy, less strong, we may believe that the addition of half a million of foreigners to our present numbers would produce a similar effect here.

If they come of themselves, they are entitled to all the rights of citizenship: but I doubt the expediency of inviting them by extraordinary encouragements"…~Thomas Jefferson



""...The opinion advanced in [Jefferson’s] Notes on Virginia is undoubtedly correct, that foreigners will generally be apt to bring with them attachments to the persons they have left behind; to the country of their nativity, and to its particular customs and manners. They will also entertain opinions on government congenial with those under which they have lived; or if they should be led hither from a preference to ours, how extremely unlikely is it that they will bring with them that temperate love of liberty, so essential to real republicanism?…

In the recommendation to admit indiscriminately foreign emigrants of every description to the privileges of American citizens, on their first entrance into our country, there is an attempt to break down every pale which has been erected for the preservation of a national spirit and a national character; and to let in the most powerful means of perverting and corrupting both the one and the other." ~ Alexander Hamilton

59 posted on 02/21/2005 11:20:55 PM PST by FBD ("A nation without borders is not a nation." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: theworkersarefew
To Sam Cree: "Pence, being a true Christian statesman, may be what our Nation is in search of in order to lead a Christian Revival"

Although I believe in Christian ethics, and most of its morality, as well as the "Christianity" of the USA, I personally am not a Christian and don't think it is the job of government to lead any kind of religious revival, any more than I think it's the job of government to be involved in all the stuff that Pence apparently wants to get it out of.

60 posted on 02/22/2005 4:53:21 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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