Posted on 02/21/2005 2:12:24 PM PST by theworkersarefew
Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.), said: "The Republican majority, left to its own devices from 1995 to 2000, was a party committed to limited government and restoring the balances of federalism with the states. Clearly, President Bush has had a different vision, and that vision has resulted in education and welfare policies that have increased the size and scope of government."
Pence, an influential leader of House conservatives, said 50 Republicans gathered in Baltimore this past week and discussed, among other things, an overwhelming desire to protest the expansion of government by opposing Bush's education plan for high school students. While only 33 House Republicans opposed the No Child Left Behind law in the first term, Pence predicted that a significantly larger number will vote against expanding the program to cover high schools. Michael Franc of the Heritage Foundation, a pro-Bush think tank, agreed. "It's a non-starter" in the minds of a large number of Republicans, he said.
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You are right, the establishment is not going to support Pence, but at the same time Pence is so well respected and well loved, that the establishment is not going to work against Pence either. Rod Martin who is the founder and president of Vanguard PAC told me that the time is right to lift up Mike Pence into national spotlight. He is deep in the Bush camp, but he told us that he would never be working against us. Also, American Conservative Union, Christian Coalition and various other pro-life organizations love Mike Pence and want to see him as our next president. I think it will take the American people and Jesus Christ to elect this man, but that is who should be electing our men to begin with, not Washington D.C. or the Republican Establishment. The timing is right and Pence has found favor in the eyes of everyone, even hard left liberals like Lou Dobbs. We must get his name out there!!!!!!
Pence's name recognition is expanding day by day. This is the time to get a true Christian Conservative statesman in office and if we don't come together now then it will always be politics as usual. We need a true outsider like Reagan who the American people can get behind not just the establishment. Evangelicals are not going to vote for anybody else that the party puts up because there is no true Christian conservative leader fighting for our principles. People are looking for a person who stands on principle and not party. Pence is best candidate who can unite the entire Reagan Wing (both the fiscal and social conservatives). We need to get behind this man or our country and party will continue to stray off course from true conservatives values and principles that our founding fathers had in mind when they signed the Declaration of Independence and Constitution.
Well, as much as I appreciate your gusto here, I just don't see it happening. I actually do think the GOP would work against him--at least by giving money and endorsements to other folks--and Congressmen don't exactly have a great track record in moving from Capitol Hill to the White House.
If Pence were to come back to Indiana and run for governor....maybe. But in the meantime, I think you ought to be shopping around for someone with a little better credentials--or someone that doesn't rock the boat.
I'm growing a little disturbed with some of the names I've been hearing lately for the GOP nomination in 08...rest assured, though, Pence would have my vote over Rice in a heartbeat.
Hey Branson Revival, you sound like you are down for Pence for president. I'm glad there are many people like you out there who know about and love Mike Pence. It is going to take many dedicated conservatives like us in order to ensure Mr. Pence's candidacy for 08. But hard work is what makes conservatives thrive. glad to know we have good people like yourself out there. Keep fighting the good fight and tell all your friends about Mike Pence!!!1
In what sense was Reagan an outsider? Granted, he wasn't from Washington, but the guy was very well known and obviously commanded a LOT of name recognition.
I like Mark Sanford (governor of South Carolina) personally, and while, like Pence, his name recognition isn't there, coming from the governor's mansion is a much easier trip than coming from Capitol Hill.
Mike Pence is a great orator and communicator like Ronald Reagan. Pence was a radio show host for several years in Indianapolis and this is what allowed Pence to become so polished in his rhetoric. Even so that liberals even love him, which is exactly what Reagan did and won over those Reagan democrats. Pence speaks with such sincerity and grace that he wins everybody over with his love. We need a true spiritual leader who can bring Christian values back to the family home and that man is Mike Pence!
That is the great thing about Mike Pence!!! He is not rocking the boat per se. Pres. Bush and all the other moderate Republicans love and respect Mike Pence. Even Mr. Tom Osbourne who is a party-line/moderate Republican loves Mike Pence. We actually spoke to Mr. Osbourne personally. The worst thing anyone can say and has said about Mike Pence is "He is a great guy." But we must expect the establishment to endorse another moderate member, that's why it is important to start now in order to get every pro-life, pro-family, pro-growth organization out there supporting Mike Pence. Once that happens and we have a strong grassroots organization, there is nothing the establishment can do. Not to mention the Lord Jesus Christ has His hand all over Mike Pence!!! Nothing can stop the sovereign work of the Lord
Most of here agree that this is not a good thing, but the fact is that for many Americans who have lived with the welfare state for sixty years, their response to the above quote will be "SO WHAT?"
For now, the debate over the size and power of government is being lost, and folks like Congressman Pence are going to have to explain to people why government needs to be reduced, not simply point out that it is large.
Mark Sanford is a great guy but he is not a conservative. He is very liberal in illegal immigration issues and other issues that the American Conservative Union deems important. I am attaching Sanford's voting record for you and every other person who may be thinking about supporting Sanford to shine light on his true politics.
11. NEA/NEH CUTS. Adoption of the Rule to provide for House floor consideration of the Interior Appropriations bill. The Rule waived a point of order against the money in the bill for the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities because their authorizations had expired. Rejected 192 238, July 12, 1995. ACU opposed the Rule.
13. ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION. Stokes amendment to strike the bill's provisions prohibiting the Environmental Protection Agency from enforcing environmental laws, including sections of the Clean Water Act and the Clean Air Act and the Delaney Clause of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act regarding pesticides on food. Approved 212 206, July 28, 1995. ACU opposed the amendment.
22. LOBBYING RESTRICTIONS. Clinger amendment to prohibit federal agencies from using public funds on any activity intended to promote public support or opposition to any legislative proposal. Rejected 190 238, November 28, 1995. ACU supported the amendment.
RESTRICTIONS ON EDUCATION FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. HR 4134 (CQ House Vote 433), Illegal Immigrant Education Restrictions. Passage of the bill to permit states to bar illegal immigrants from public education, beginning with enrollments after July 1, 1997. States would not be permitted to prevent previously enrolled students from completing their schooling. Passed 254-175, Sept. 25, 1996. ACU supported the legislation.
CATS BUDGET. HConRes84, FY 1998 Budget Resolution (roll call vote 144). Doolittle (R-CA) substitute amendment, offered on behalf of the Conservative Action Team, to balance the budget by 2002 by cutting non-defense discretionary spending to levels requested in the President=s FY 1997 budget request, an additional savings of $109 billion that would be applied to additional tax cuts, thereby increasing net tax cuts to $193 billion over 5 years. Rejected 119-313, May 21, 1997. ACU supported the amendment.
. B-2 BOMBER. HR2266, FY 1998 Defense Appropriations (roll call vote 336). Obey (D-WI) amendment to cut the $331 million provided in the bill for advance procurement of the B-2 Stealth Bomber beyond the 21 aircraft already authorized. Rejected 200-222, July 29, 1997. ACU opposed the amendment.
25. TAIWAN MISSILE DEFENSE. HR2386 (roll call vote 601). Passage of the bill to require the Defense Department to conduct a study on a plan for developing an anti-ballistic missile defense system to help protect Taiwan and express the sense of Congress that the President should approve the sale of an appropriate defense system to Taiwan in accordance with the results of the study, if requested by Taiwan. Passed 301-116, November 6, 1997. ACU supported the bill.
3. PROPERTY RIGHTS. HR992 (roll call vote 52). Passage of the bill to give landowners greater leeway in suing the federal government for disputes over government seizure of private property, by allowing such cases to be heard in federal courts. Passed 230-180, March 12, 1998. ACU supported the legislation.
7. PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. HR6 (roll call vote 133). Riggs (R-CA) amendment to prohibit any public institution of higher learning that participates in any Higher Education Act program from discriminating against, or granting preferential treatment to, any person or group in admissions based in whole or in part on race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin. Rejected 171-249, May 6, 1998. ACU supported the amendment.
17. EXPRESS ADVOCACY. HR2183 (roll call vote 375). Whitfield (R-KY) amendment to the Shays-Meehan substitute amendment to the bill to overhaul campaign finance laws. The amendment would remove the bill's expanded version of the definition of express advocacy and maintain current law. Rejected 173-238, July 31, 1998. ACU supported the amendment
18. CAMPAIGN FINANCE REGULATION. HR2183 (roll call vote 379). Shays (R-CN) substitute amendment to the bill to overhaul campaign finance laws. The amendment bans soft money contributions, raises the aggregate contribution limits, prohibits House candidates from spending more than $50,000 in personal funds, places onerous new restrictions on issue advertising, and generally restricts the rights of citizen organizations to communicate with the public. Adopted 237-186, August 3, 1998. ACU opposed the amendment.
21. DEREGULATING CAMPAIGNS. HR2183 (roll call vote 403). Doolittle (R-CA) substitute amendment to the bill to overhaul campaign finance laws. The amendment would eliminate all federal contribution limits and end the public financing of presidential campaigns. Rejected 131-299, August 6, 1998. ACU supported the amendment.
22. CAMPAIGN FINANCE REGULATION. HR2183 (roll call vote 405). Passage of the bill to overhaul campaign finance laws. The text of the bill is the Shays-Meehan substitute amendment adopted by the House on August 3, 1998, which bans soft money contributions, raises the aggregate contribution limits, prohibits House candidates from spending more than $50,000 in personal funds, places onerous new restrictions on issue advertising, and generally restricts the rights of citizen organizations to communicate with the public. Passed 252-179, August 6, 1998. ACU opposed the legislation.
24. TAX CUTS. HR4579 (roll call vote 469). Passage of the bill to cut taxes by $80 billion over five years, by extending expired provisions such as the research tax credit, reducing taxes for farmers and married couples, and making health insurance premiums 100 percent deductible for the self-employed. Passed 229-195, September 26, 1998. ACU supported the legislation.
21. Campaign Finance Overhaul - Doolittle Substitute, HR 417 (Roll Call Vote No. 419). Sept. 14, 1999 - Doolittle (R-CA) substitute amendment to eliminate all federal contribution limits, and end public financing of presidential campaigns. The substitute would require national political parties to disclose transfers of funds to state and local parties, to distinguish between federal and non-federal funds, and would require state and local parties to file with the Federal Election Commission all disclosure reports required by state law. The measure would also require electronic filing of all disclosure reports and FEC notification within 24 hours of every donation received in the last 90 days of a campaign. Amendment rejected 117-306, 14 Sept. 1999. ACU supported the amendment.
25. Physician-Assisted Suicide - Passage, HR 2260 (Roll Call Vote No. 544). Passage of the bill to allow doctors to use controlled substances aggressively to alleviate pain, while barring them from using such drugs for the purpose of assisted suicide. The measure would supercede state law, effectively overturning an Oregon law that allows lethal prescriptions to be issued to the terminally ill, and preventing such laws from going into effect in other states. Bill passed 271-156, 27 Oct. 1999. ACU supported the bill.
U.S.-Taiwan Military Ties - Passage HR 1838 (Roll Call Vote No. 5).
2000-02-01
The House passed a bill strengthening military relations between the U.S. and the Republic of China (Taiwan).
ACU supported this bill.
This bill was: opposed
The vote was: 341-70
This Representative voted: Absent
75 Fiscal 2001 Budget Resolution - Adoption H.Con.Res. 290 (Roll Call Vote No. 75).
2000-03-23
The House adopted a resolution setting spending and revenue targets for the next five years including $150 billion in tax cuts.
ACU supported this bill.
This bill was: opposed
The vote was: 211-207
This Representative voted: In Opposition of ACU
Spending Caps HR 3908 (Roll Call Vote No. 82).
2000-03-29
The House defeated an amendment striking all references to emergency designations in the bill. Passage of the amendment would have made all funds subject to the spending caps.
ACU supported this bill.
This bill was: defeated
The vote was: 108-315
This Representative voted: In Opposition of ACU
Land Conservation - Local Control HR 701 (Roll Call Vote No. 170).
2000-05-11
The House defeated an amendment allowing local governments to veto proposed land acquisition projects under the Land and Water Conservation Fund within 90 days of notification.
ACU opposed this bill.
This bill was: defeated
The vote was: 187-238
This Representative voted: In Opposition of ACU
Missile Production HR 4205 (Roll Call Vote No. 196).
2000-05-18
The House defeated an amendment ending Trident II submarine-launched ballistic missile production.
ACU opposed this bill.
This bill was: defeated
The vote was: 112-313
This Representative voted: In Opposition of ACU
Social Security Tax Repeal - Passage HR4865 (Roll Call Vote No. 450).
2000-07-27
The House passed a bill reducing the percentage of Social Security benefits that are taxable from 85 percent to 50 percent which was the level up until 1993.
ACU supported this bill.
This bill was: opposed
The vote was: 265-159
This Representative voted: In Opposition of ACU
I really like Sanford too, besides the fact that he voted against calling the DC airport Ronald Reagan International. This is very disturbing to me, considering the fact that Reagan was the greatest president that America has seen in these two last centuries. Like I said before, Evangelicals are not going to come out and vote for another politician and Sanford is a career politician. He is also up for reelection in 06 and I wish him the best of luck. Pence has his district on lock with 70% so he doesn't have to worry about reelection. I think God really has a plan for Pence and God has him in a perfect position for President. Please keep praying about this because that is what Pence really needs.
You are exactly right. That is what Mike Pence does on a daily basis. Pence is a great communicator who can communicate our conservative ideas and principles on a national scale with grace, love and sincerity and allow the American people to understand the reasons behind conservatism. But ultimately it is our job as individuals and it is the job of the church to educate its community about Conservatism
Wow, I didn't know Sanford, who some call the most "Reagan-esque" governor actually voted against Reagan and his name for an airport. Doesn't sound like he's too much of a fan of America's most celebrated hero.
I've got no problem with "illegal" immigration. If Congress voted to open the border with Mexico tomorrow, I'd be fine with that. Bigger markets, more opportunity for division of labor. Capitalist dream!
And Sanford has done a nice job streamlining SC government since he's taken over. And he was ranked #1 in the entire Congress by Citizens Against Government Waste. The guy is all right by me.
If we are all willing to vote for Pence for president. Then lets get out there and start telling our friends to vote for him as well. Lets start working the grassroots and get everyone excited about Pence and eventually draft him like Goldwater and Reagan. I believe that he is the man that the American people can really unite behind and we can get voters out there who have never left the house. I have already told my church and pastor and they are behind Pence all the way. I believe that God has something big for America and Pence and it's our duty to make sure God's will is done. Pray for Pence and pray for the workers.
He was only elected in 1994 to Congress, and he only served three terms. I don't know that I would call that a career politican....
As far as the airport goes, I love Ronald Reagan and all, but who cares? It always kills me about how people make a big deal out of naming crap after other people. We've got airports and highways and streets and we've always got to name them after folks. As if somehow the sun won't rise if an airport is still named Idlewild or National? There's a stink where I come from it seems like every year about how we've got to have a Martin Luther King, Jr. street. WHY? Who cares? And if it's all the same to me, I'd just rather not change the name and then have to pay for all of those new signs that have to go up...
I don't think that many Evangelicals agree with yours or Sanford's position on illegal immigration. Illegal immigration creates big problems socially because it causes crime rates to increase, diseases to increase, and it takes away labor from the American people. I really hope that Sanford sees the light and votes right for immigration.
I don't think that many Evangelicals agree with yours or Sanford's position on illegal immigration. Illegal immigration creates big problems socially because it causes crime rates to increase, diseases to increase, and it takes away labor from the American people. I really hope that Sanford sees the light and votes right for immigration.
I don't believe this.
diseases to increase
I don't believe this.
and it takes away labor from the American people
So? If they can't cut the mustard, they can't cut it. I believe people should EARN their job and EARN their money. You don't get a free pass in my book for being from America. If a Mexican comes in and he can do the job better & cheaper, you will be out the door in a New York minute. Maybe that don't sit too well with some Evangelicals out there, but I don't believe in giving anyone a free pass.
After dispatching one to the primary junk heap and being told that the current incumbent would do the trick in 2004, we are now being introduced to the next cultural value messiah.
If this guy is going to make a name for himself and his otherwise worthy agenda by bashing Bush to the liberal press, he can forget about it. The left-wing media is frothing at the mouth for fraternicide within the GOP; and Republicans (like Pence or McCain) who fall for it, even if it is to push noble causes, are worthless - in my opinion. The struggle has to take place WITHIN the party and not through the press. This is disloyal and breaks with Reagan's 11th Amendment. We know where this leads- the GOP coalition fracturing, and Democrats seizing on this chaos. I've lost respect for Pence and his "Study Group" as a result of this.
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