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Violent attack truly senseless
Akron Beacon Journal ^
| Feb. 20, 2005
Posted on 02/20/2005 10:20:35 PM PST by deepFR
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To: deepFR
Wow! Four years is not nearly enough time in jail for that.
What would you have done if you were there? Everyone there just stood around and watched or pretended not to notice.
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posted on
02/20/2005 11:39:30 PM PST
by
BJungNan
(Please stand by while I think up a new one...)
To: agitator
The most unnerving aspect of the newspiece is that the people seemed really reluctant to say the homeowner did the right thing :(
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posted on
02/20/2005 11:40:18 PM PST
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: deepFR
Thanks! The PN and UN worked great. Really disgusting video.
63
posted on
02/20/2005 11:42:28 PM PST
by
BJungNan
(Please stand by while I think up a new one...)
To: deepFR
thanks but I wanted to get to the original article to source the author....
64
posted on
02/20/2005 11:42:28 PM PST
by
Texas_Jarhead
(Islam is religion of piece established for profit by Muhammad, piss be upon him.)
To: cyborg
"The most unnerving aspect of the newspiece is that the people seemed really reluctant to say the homeowner did the right thing :("
That's because the American people are
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posted on
02/20/2005 11:42:48 PM PST
by
agitator
(...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
To: Nexus6; borntobeagle
What bothers me the most is seeing all the men standing there doing NOTHING
That is what I found really disturbing. I'm probably a third the size of that savage that beat the tar out of that poor s-o-b, but I would've at least tried to intervene somehow, like stepping in between them to try and distract the perp. I'm pretty agile, there's no way that savage would've caught me, even with a sucker punch. Those bystanders should be ashamed of themselves. Glad I don't live in Akron if that's the kind of support I can expect from my fellow citizen.
Hey, you don't think that these bystanders wouldn't be charged with a hate crime if they got involved? You can bet your bottom dollar they would have. Our justice system sucks because the perpetrator has the law on his side. Truly a shame that law abiding citizens are afraid to get involved because of fear of retribution in the courts.
To: agitator
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posted on
02/20/2005 11:44:04 PM PST
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: BJungNan
What would you have done if you were there?
Try to never place myself in hypothetical situations, but as with all things in life - pretty sure I would do the RIGHT thing.
68
posted on
02/20/2005 11:44:06 PM PST
by
deepFR
To: taxesareforever
If they pulled the guy off the victim and restrained him till the police came, how would that be a hate crime? I can't see any jury being that stupid. Some people just don't care and are cowards, and has nothing to do with the courts. I'd like to believe that they didn't get involved because of retribution, but no I sure don't. Right here in NY, some guy raped a little girl and people just stood around and watched till he was done.
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posted on
02/20/2005 11:46:37 PM PST
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: agitator
bystander blowing the assailant's head off would have been much cheaper in the long run. ...and an example of *sensible* violence.
To: deepFR
Try to never place myself in hypothetical situations, but as with all things in life - pretty sure I would do the RIGHT thing.Myself, I'd be thinking more about doing the CHAIR thing. But I don't know, that guy looked pretty big. Not sure a chair across the head would have done anything but got him madder.
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posted on
02/20/2005 11:49:22 PM PST
by
BJungNan
(Please stand by while I think up a new one...)
To: cyborg
Hell, I've been beat down by a gaggle of idiots as people stood around with their thumbs up their Klintons. Some poeple, and I'd venture many, are like that. I believe this is particularly of people in large metro areas.
72
posted on
02/20/2005 11:50:52 PM PST
by
Texas_Jarhead
(Islam is religion of piece established for profit by Muhammad, piss be upon him.)
To: Texas_Jarhead
73
posted on
02/20/2005 11:51:39 PM PST
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: Texas_Jarhead
whoops - I believe this is particularly ^ true ^ of people in large metro areas.
74
posted on
02/20/2005 11:52:31 PM PST
by
Texas_Jarhead
(Islam is religion of piece established for profit by Muhammad, piss be upon him.)
To: taxesareforever
Hey, you don't think that these bystanders wouldn't be charged with a hate crime if they got involved? You can bet your bottom dollar they would have. Our justice system sucks because the perpetrator has the law on his side. Truly a shame that law abiding citizens are afraid to get involved because of fear of retribution in the courts.That may be true. It's just mind-boggling those guys just stood there. I'm afraid I would've reacted without even thinking about the consequences, legal or otherwise.
75
posted on
02/20/2005 11:52:58 PM PST
by
Nexus6
To: borntobeagle
There were no "real" men standing in there at all, only cowards. In the video, the chick was screaming, there is no doubt in my mind that everyone in the immediate area knew what was going on at the time. Then the prick boyfriend starts hitting the guy on the phone and all you see is a bunch of cowards looking everywhere else other than at him. With the damage that was done, the broken eye socket ect, those landing punches would be pretty loud, yet no one even looked. There was 4 or 5 decent size guys in there and not one of them did or said a thing to help that poor bastard. Very pathetic .....:( A sad for the people of Acron.
76
posted on
02/20/2005 11:53:58 PM PST
by
trader70
To: Texas_Jarhead
Wow I thought I saw that in the original post to begin with *lol* Then again at this time of the morn I start seeing things anyway :o)
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posted on
02/20/2005 11:54:59 PM PST
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: taxesareforever
I can agree that maybe these "Men" are doing nothing out of fear, but dear God, I'd have jumped in myself and/or screamed at the very least and I'm 5'0" on a good day with an updraft, and weigh in at 105lbs. I don't think jumping on the back of an over 200 lb man to try to stop him from beating a man senseless would be considered criminal, it would be called courteous and caring, especially after the video came to light.
At least making noise or yelling for the police could have called enough attention to move this pair of lunatics out of the pizza place and end this brutal act. These "Men" stood there, drinking their coke, doing nothing!!
I'd be willing to take my chances on being charged with a hate crime if I were there to see the whole thing happen and did something to help this man.
This whole thing reeks.
To: deepFR
thanks, appreciate the note
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posted on
02/21/2005 12:03:31 AM PST
by
Texas_Jarhead
(Islam is religion of piece established for profit by Muhammad, piss be upon him.)
To: Texas_Jarhead
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posted on
02/21/2005 12:04:37 AM PST
by
deepFR
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