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New guidelines for treating 'intersex' babies
MSNBC ^
| 2/18/2005
| Associated Press
Posted on 02/18/2005 5:05:50 PM PST by nyg4168
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Wow, this is a tough one. What a heartbreak for parents who have to make this choice and the children who have to live with the consequences. Giving these families some sort of grace period to figure things out seems like a good idea. On the other hand, I've heard of some people born this way saying, "Just leave me like I am, this is how God created me."
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:05:52 PM PST
by
nyg4168
To: nyg4168
Sometimes mistakes are made. Parents are terribly defensive on behalf of their children in those cases.
When in doubt (years after the fact) don't ask!
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:09:53 PM PST
by
muawiyah
To: nyg4168
I watched a program on this. It really is rare. Hundreds of babies seems an aggrandized number.
All unborn children start out female. Sometimes the testicles do not drop, giving a male child the outward appearance of female.
Once again it is very rare.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:10:23 PM PST
by
LauraleeBraswell
( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
To: nyg4168
Some huge percentage of intergender children are male without fully formed male genitalia. I had a client who when through three operations by the time he was four. I saw the pix of him in the hospital and by the time he had had his third operation, he was no longer the happy toddler. BUT he had the requisite equipment. wow. such pain in this world. I did the paternity case forcing his bio father to not only pay for his college but encouraging, thanks to a wonderful judge, a relationship with a father he had never known.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:10:55 PM PST
by
Mercat
(Andy walks with me Andy talks with me, Andy tells me I am His own.)
To: nyg4168
The past handling of such cases has been idiocy. The idea that you can change a boy into a girl just by mutilating him & giving him some hormones is about the most repugnant thing in recent medical science, aside from abortion.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:11:57 PM PST
by
Sloth
(I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
To: nyg4168
Jamie Lee Curtis would have made a terrible man. It looks like they guessed correctly.
To: Sloth
And the part in this story about the woman who was mistakenly raised as a boy, then had to go through changing her identity, and now she can't get married to a man because Texas won't change her birth certificate? Talk getting kicked while your down. Poor woman. I hope some good lawyer in Texas volunteers to help her out.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:18:33 PM PST
by
nyg4168
To: Sloth
I just get the feeling there is more of an agenda in this research than meets the eye.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:18:39 PM PST
by
mlc9852
To: nyg4168
Yeah, it's ridiculous that an error on your birth certificate can't be corrected.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:20:01 PM PST
by
Sloth
(I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
To: mlc9852
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:23:28 PM PST
by
jwalburg
(Those buried included children still clutching toys)
To: LauraleeBraswell
Not so rare that it's unknown in FReeperdom, though. I know someone who was born intersex.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:25:37 PM PST
by
Xenalyte
(Your mother sells hot dogs.)
To: Sloth
David Reimer is a classic example of what happens when a boy is raised a girl. It's a truly sad story.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:27:41 PM PST
by
LauraleeBraswell
( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
To: Xenalyte
One in 4000 births, I just googled it.
Out of 280 million, that would be 7 thousand, if I've done my math right, here in the US.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:29:34 PM PST
by
Judith Anne
(Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
To: Xenalyte
Or maybe 70,000?
I'm trying to do it in my head...I think 70,000 is right.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:30:55 PM PST
by
Judith Anne
(Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
To: Judith Anne
Out of 280 million, that would be 7 thousand, if I've done my math right, here in the US. More like 70,000.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:32:29 PM PST
by
Tamar1973
(The Constitution is a FOUNDING DOCUMENT, not a living document --Lauralee Braswell)
To: Tamar1973
Yes, you're right, of course. See my post right above your correction.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:33:47 PM PST
by
Judith Anne
(Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
To: nyg4168
Back when they first started doing sex change operations this is the only case I could support it for. I do think mistakes were/are made when a decision is made at birth. I think in the past it was made more to make the child look normal and shield them. I would think they would be able to determine the sex fairly early in life. But I'm not sure what criteria is used to do so. I'm sure corrective surgery isn't a pleasant thing but it would be better than being trapped in an opposite sex body.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:36:01 PM PST
by
TXBubba
( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
To: Sloth
The idea that you can change a boy into a girl just by mutilating him & giving him some hormones is about the most repugnant thing in recent medical science How about the idea that you can change a girl into a boy just by leaving her in a body with 'boy' parts?
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:36:53 PM PST
by
Grut
To: Xenalyte
The term "intersex" is completely inappropropriate. Intersex by definition means having both male and female sex organs, technically an intersex individual could impregnate himherself which has never happened in the history of mankind.
MSN is wrong with their terminology. They are referring to babies of ambiguous sexual characteristics.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:37:17 PM PST
by
LauraleeBraswell
( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
To: Judith Anne
It is very simple. The doctors should do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING until the kid grows up and figures out what he or she is or if they are happy just the way they are. Guessing with a knife and hormones and parents' selfish wishes leads to absolute disaster.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:38:08 PM PST
by
RobertMorrow
(H.R. 1146 will WITHDRAW the USA from the United Nations' madhouse/cesspool)
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