Debate immigration issue, not each side's integrity (Mike Huckabee Alert)

The San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 2/18/05 | Joseph Perkins

[Brad’s Gramma]

BTTT to watch the thread.

[thelastvirgil]

And some FREEPERS are touting Huckabee as a viable candidate for POTUS in '08. He has decided, in his lame-duck wisdom, to ignore the will of the people, and will proceed to lead us down the politically-correct path for as long as his term lasts.

He has lost his mind, recently implying himself a better Christian than the sponsor of the state senate legislation; Senator Jim Holt.

[Brad’s Gramma]

recently implying himself a better Christian

Red flag...!!!

[k2blader]

Huckabee is dead wrong.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Ping-a-ling to ya.

[txdoda]

They suggest that those who support such measures are anti-immigrant; that they simply do not like people who are brown-skinned (or black or yellow).

LOL......like those 'racist' HISPANICS in AZ ???.......47% voted FOR prop 200.

[DoughtyOne]

Joseph Perkins is but the latest person to find out that he's a racist, by some people's opinion. Don't lose too much sleep over it Joe, I've seen a number of their opinions, and let's just say they're a little fuzzy.

[Digger]

I don't know Arkansas politics but I do know that Huck brought into his inner circle two of Tysons people when 1st elected. I knew then that this guy was not for real no matter how the rest spun it.

[Dat Mon]

I met Huckabee back at the first Freeper ball...or was it the managers dinner, don't remember, when he and his band first performed.

I used to like the guy, plus the fact that he played in a rock band as governor was pretty cool and an added bonus.

Now, unfortunately, I find these recent statements of Huckabee confusing, and disturbing. They do fit in with some elements of religious policy, such as the position of the Catholic bishops of Mexico City who seem to favor a defacto dissolution of our borders.

Nevertheless, I sure hope that Republican leaders are not heading down a road to a sort of Wilsonian internationalist Christian compassion doctrine...applied to federal government policies...that is going to take us back to the days of the Great Society....this time pubbie style.

[followerofchrist]

More and more blacks are starting to oppose open borders immigration, which leaves the left in a quandry. How can they call blacks racist? I know, call blacks who disagree with them race traitors for not hating da white man.

[South40]

Hi BG...long time no see. :-)

[South40]

And some FREEPERS are touting Huckabee as a viable candidate for POTUS in '08.

Yeah, I saw that thread and I thought it was a joke.

If Huckabee's the best we have to offer we're in some serious trouble come '08.

[South40]

LOL......like those 'racist' HISPANICS in AZ ???.......47% voted FOR prop 200.

They blow that off as those Hispanics having gotten their piece of the American dream and not wanting or even helping other, less fortunate Hispanics to get theirs.

My skin's pretty dark; I suppose I'm a racist too?

[South40]

FYI.

Just curious what you think of this.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Hi backatcha!

[bayourod]

"when all taxes are paid and all costs are considered, illegal households cost the federal government a net $10 billion in 2002. "

Simpleton nonsense. Very few working class families pay their proportionate share of taxes. (90% of taxes are paid by the wealthy and corporations. Hispanics should not be held to a different standard than any other group.

Nor does the CIS study take into account the taxes paid by the companies that employ the immigrant laborers that would otherwise have to relocate to find enough workers or close down. (Why do you think no city wants immigration laws enforced in their city?)

Neither does the CIS study take into account the contribution to GNP and balance of trade that laborers working inside the U.S. as opposed to outside the U.S.

And then finally there is the multiplier effect of both the contributions of immigrants and the expenditures on their behalf.
For Example:
The federal government mandates only that emergency rooms stabilize people without regard to ability to pay. It is state and local laws and policies that mandate further medical expenditures. Why do state and local government want to spend more? Because the money (from taxpayers) goes directly to local doctors, nurses, hospitals, pharmacies, ambulance companies, medical suppliers, etc... The doctors et al use the money to buy new sports cars, yachts, homes, big screen TV, etc....

The same applies to education expenditures. Who gets the money? Local teachers, principals, staff, cafeteria employees, counselors, construction companies, material suppliers, band instrument suppliers, parking lot pavers, glass window companies, insurance agencies, food suppliers, vending companies etc...

It isn't the immigrants lobbying your state and local governments to spend more money on them, it's your next door neighbors who end up with the money in their pockets.

[lodwick]

Outstanding post.

[bayourod]

"And if that's still not enough low-skilled labor to meet the needs of the nation's industries, they can recruit workers from the legal immigrant population. "

The legal immigrants already have jobs. Is this author genuine or an apprentice try-out?

[bayourod]

"How can they call blacks racist? "

Racism knows no color.