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1 posted on 02/18/2005 7:59:32 AM PST by quidnunc
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I just read the Title- And YES IT CAN.

The BBC was just blasted for a Fake story- (PROPOGANDA) on an Arab Israeli officer who was fired for refusing to shoot Palestinian children.

The story was fabricated. COMPLETELY FAKE.


2 posted on 02/18/2005 8:01:01 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE first-Republican second.)
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To: quidnunc

Good find.


3 posted on 02/18/2005 8:02:49 AM PST by Rocko
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To: quidnunc

Here we go!

The world is dividing into Anti-Semitic and Pro-America/Pro-Israel camps.

Jews can be relatively safe in two places, now.

The older I get, the more I value my guns.


4 posted on 02/18/2005 8:03:34 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Democrat Obstructionists will be Daschled!)
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To: quidnunc

Jews are the canary in the coal mine.


5 posted on 02/18/2005 8:04:01 AM PST by thoughtomator (If Islam is a religion, so is Liberal!)
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To: Alia
Are we sure that Eason Jordan wasn't there? Here we go with inflated numbers again as well./s

"Nothing captures the insidious drip-drip of Jew hatred provided by the British media so clearly as the continued ritual invocation of the "Jenin massacre" two years after it was conclusively established that no such thing ever occurred. In the annals of shoddy, propaganda journalism, the reportage of the battle in Jenin by the British media, including the BBC, deserves a full chapter.

The British press did not just distort and credulously accept at face value the most fantastic stories woven for them by Palestinians, they lied outright. Phillip Reeves of the Independent, informed his readers that Israel's cover up of a "monstrous war crime . . . has finally been exposed. . . . The sweet and ghastly reed of rotting human bodies is everywhere, evidence that this is a human tomb." Yet we now know that neither Reeves nor U.N. Middle East envoy Terje Larsen, who spoke of an overwhelming stench of death permeating the camp, could have smelled any such thing for the simple reason that there were too few bodies. After initially reporting 5,000 Palestinian dead - an estimate dutifully reported by much of the British media - even the Palestinians themselves admitted in the end that the total number of Palestinians killed did not exceed 56, and that most of those were armed fighters.

6 posted on 02/18/2005 8:04:56 AM PST by JesseJane (KERRY: I have had conversations with leaders, yes, recently.That's not your business, it's mine.)
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To: quidnunc

Possibly the large muslim population instead??


8 posted on 02/18/2005 8:06:33 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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I'd like to pose this question honestly and without any hidden intent. Why does this article about anti-Jewish bias in the British media begin with the first two examples being about persecuted Americans, not Jews? Is the author saying that if the Brits can turn on the Americans, the Jews must be next? Or is he trying to link a synonomous relationship between the USA and the Jewish People?

Instead of hitting you head on with facts, it seems to be trying to set something up in advance, or attempting to frame it somehow. Since this isn't an area I'm up on, I just didn't get it?


10 posted on 02/18/2005 8:12:28 AM PST by Sax
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There's an interesting comment in that pro-Al Jazeera "documentary" Control Room, which sounded only half-joking. I don't recall the exact words, but the idea was that when journalists left their positions with the BBC, their next stop was usually the Al Jazeera network.

Yep, that all fits.

15 posted on 02/18/2005 8:19:20 AM PST by Charles Martel
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[I]t is permissible today in English society to utter any possible lie about Jews and Israel, but speaking truthfully about the deformities of modern Islam will earn one a tirade about Islamophobia.

Paging Cat Stevens . . .

17 posted on 02/18/2005 8:21:48 AM PST by OhioAttorney
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I don't know if it's their press, as much as it is an organized movement of the worldwide Left. Remember, the same patterns that this article points out in their press are present in OUR media, OUR educational institutions, and OUR government (well, not so much in our government, as in our LEFTIST/progressivist party - and more primarily at the Federal level than at the State level, but I digress...)

The flower-children of the 60's are all grown up now, and are in leadership positions throughout the world - In government, in the boardroom, in the universities, and in the press. They are intent in recreating the world in THEIR image, and in doing so, are in the process of completely unravelling "Western culture," as it represents the concept of the communist notion of the "bourgeoise elite."

I really can't wait for this generation to pass, so the world has a chance at sanity again... Either that, or for the Lord to return and set things right once and for all. Either way, we'd be much better off than having to put up with this crud for much longer. :)

19 posted on 02/18/2005 8:30:29 AM PST by detsaoT (insert hot-button issue here.)
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What about the emotional power of Jewish children blown to bits by suicide bombers? Himel asks. "Jews don't issue fatwas against journalists," Benson replies.

That craven attitude helps explain why it is permissible today in English society to utter any possible lie about Jews and Israel, but speaking truthfully about the deformities of modern Islam will earn one a tirade about Islamophobia. Thus the Mayor of London, who demonstratively boycotted a reception for President Bush, warmly embraces an Islamic cleric who praises suicide bombers and endorses wife-beating.

England has a long history of anti-Jewish attitudes, Shakespeare's depictions of Shylock and Iago being among the most notable. What's truly sad, is that British Jews were as British as German Jews were German. Benjamin Disraeli was a born-Jewish Anglican, but he demonstrated that Jews in England weren't as liable to persecution as they were in, say, Russia.

Now, Britain has a large population of followers of a cult that advocates murder of those who disagree with it....and is viciously anti-Jewish to an extent that would make Reinhard Heydrich, Heinrich Himmler, Paul Josef Goebbels and old Scramblebrain Adolf proud.

The Britain that stood up against Nazism and faced down the Luftwaffe is fading into the past. As infested with muslimes as is France, or damn near, anyway, it looks like the English lion is becoming a weasel.

What a pity.....what a filthy pity.

21 posted on 02/18/2005 8:34:34 AM PST by Bombardier (That's the life of an outlaw. Tough, ain't it?)
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Did anyone else notice the funny spelling error?
 . . . describes a seen on a London bus . . . 

If she'd merely been eavesdropping, I suppose she'd have described a heard.

28 posted on 02/18/2005 8:54:06 AM PST by OhioAttorney
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O doubt it, they have always had someone they hate...Chinese, Pakistanis, Indians, etc...travel around and spend more time away from the touristy places some more, and you will see it.


31 posted on 02/18/2005 9:09:17 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: quidnunc
YES

Reuters is anti-American and anti-Semitic
36 posted on 02/18/2005 10:48:54 AM PST by John Lenin
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Carol Gould, an ex-patriate American living in England for many years, describes a seen on a London bus, in which a tweedy Englishwoman, accompanied by a son in his public school uniform, set upon a hapless, elderly American tourist, telling her, "I rejoice every time I hear of another American soldier dying! You people all deserve to die in another 9/11." When the elderly American began to cry, her assailant grabbed her and started shaking her.
38 posted on 02/18/2005 1:57:53 PM PST by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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a tweedy Englishwoman, accompanied by a son in his public school uniform, set upon a hapless, elderly American tourist, telling her, "I rejoice every time I hear of another American soldier dying! You people all deserve to die in another 9/11."

This seems rather unlikely. 'Tweedy Englishwomen' with public-school sons would rather die than catch a bus in London. They have 4x4s, don't you know?

41 posted on 02/18/2005 3:13:34 PM PST by Da_Shrimp
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...great post, quid! Never mind the distracting disruptors who are lying about the situation in Britannia. Most Brits hate Tony Blair and want him out of office, because most Brits are very hateful against Israel. Most Britons are on the side of the so-called "Palestinians" ("Philistinians" in Latin, IIRC), and they are very much opposed against the efforts of their own soldiers in Iraq.

...more news.

"A darkness falls on England" (Jerusalem Post, by JTA)

...and an interesting tidbit from that news. Quote from the Jerusalem Post (JTA) article:

"One such incident was the publication of a cartoon in the staunchly pro-Palestinian newspaper The Independent on January 27, 2003 – Holocaust Memorial Day – that showed Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon biting off the head of a Palestinian child."

Not only most of the British press, but also most of the intellectual leaders of Britain, are against Israel. They cry and cheer for the "Palestinians." and against our own country (the USA). The reason for their common lying about the situation is that they left their older beliefs in morality behind decades ago. They ridicule us (most often behind our backs) for our beliefs in our Creator.

The disruptors against posts like yours are blessed that I am even bothering to use the quantifier, most, to describe what I have learned over the years about the situation in their country. And their lack of acknowledgement of the problem shows that they would rather continue trying to fool us instead of starting to solve their problem.
48 posted on 02/18/2005 4:32:37 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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"Jolly Old England No Longer: Can the surge in British Jew hatred be linked directly to its media?"

You and I went the rounds on this issue about a month ago. When I found this thread, I checked and didn't find you wading in on it. Since this issue seems to be a hot button issue for you, I thought I'd drop you a courtesy ping.

--Boot Hill

53 posted on 02/18/2005 11:23:12 PM PST by Boot Hill ("...and Josuha went unto him and said: art thou for us, or for our adversaries?")
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It is useful to bear in mind that George Orwell had the BBC in mind as his model for Big Brother. Media-wise this is not new.
Sad to see the haters surface with such virulence, however. UK should be better than this.


55 posted on 02/18/2005 11:57:28 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: quidnunc; nmh; Quix; DannyTN; Esther Ruth; happygrl; MadIvan; kingsurfer; pau1f0rd; Da_Shrimp
I personally see this fulfills Bible prophecy of God leading Jewish people on aliyah to Israel. Perhaps God is saying it is time now for Jews in Britain, France, and other countries in Western Europe to make their journeys back to Israel. Nothing against European countries generally, but God has said Jewish people will return to their own ancestral land in preparation of Jesus's return - in fact, God will also work similarly to lead American, Canadian Jews back to Israel in the future.

"As I live," says the Lord GOD, "surely with a mighty hand, with an outstretched arm, and with fury poured out, I will rule over you. I will bring you out from the peoples and gather you out of the countries where you are scattered, with a mighty hand, with an outstretched arm, and with fury poured out. And I will bring you into the wilderness of the peoples, and there I will plead My case with you face to face. Just as I pleaded My case with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so I will plead My case with you," says the Lord GOD.

"I will make you pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant; I will purge the rebels from among you, and those who transgress against Me; I will bring them out of the country where they dwell, but they shall not enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the LORD.

"As for you, O house of Israel," thus says the Lord GOD: "Go, serve every one of you his idols--and hereafter--if you will not obey Me; but profane My holy name no more with your gifts and your idols. For on My holy mountain, on the mountain height of Israel," says the Lord GOD, "there all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, shall serve Me; there I will accept them, and there I will require your offerings and the firstfruits of your sacrifices, together with all your holy things. I will accept you as a sweet aroma when I bring you out from the peoples and gather you out of the countries where you have been scattered; and I will be hallowed in you before the Gentiles. Then you shall know that I am the LORD, when I bring you into the land of Israel, into the country for which I raised My hand in an oath to give to your fathers. And there you shall remember your ways and all your doings with which you were defiled; and you shall loathe yourselves in your own sight because of all the evils that you have committed. Then you shall know that I am the LORD, when I have dealt with you for My name's sake, not according to your wicked ways nor according to your corrupt doings, O house of Israel," says the Lord GOD."'

- Ezekiel 20:33-44 (NKJV)

83 posted on 02/21/2005 3:50:21 AM PST by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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