As opposed to the "Anything to Satisfy Their Ravenous Lust to See Painful Torture Unto Death Inflicted on the Helpless" crowd.
Two of 'em, for a pair of earrings.
Posted on 02/18/2005 6:25:20 AM PST by wotan
Here's a way Jeb Bush may be able to save Terry Schiavo: Open an investigation into the possible assault that led to her comatose condition. Have the state pay for her maintenance to "preserve the evidence" and pay for language therapy for her so she can tell us what she knows about how she got into the coma. It struck me that the reason her husband wants her dead might be because he's afraid of what she'll say if she recovers. I don't see how a judge could possibly deny the state the right to preserve evidence of a serious assault.
Hope she's not dead yet.
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Protect Terri from those who
are trying to kill her.
They want to start killing her as
early as February 22nd, 2005. This coming Tuesday.
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"I don't want anyone trying
to feed that girl...
the law of the case is
that she is going to die"
-- pseudo judge George W. Greer
from the bench in 2001.
Uh-oh. It's the old "there have been some good judges, therefore Greer is a good judge" trick.
I just take your posts as apologetics by a trial lawyer who practices in that jurisdiction and knows Greer and the other judges there. You might should recuse yourself due to conflict of interest. :)
Where the bread's buttered....
Uh-oh. It's the old "I've been on FR longer than you, and that's what makes me right" trick.... LOL
You bring up a great point. This precedent will be way to remeniscient of Hitler's beginnings:
Terri and T-4
Well it seems as if Hitler has found his way to Florida. Even the Nazi's couldn't have done their evil without the permission of Hitler. Mein Kampf never came out and said "I support killing all Jews, all elderly, all handicapped, all mentally ill, etc.... '
Hitler didn't start building death camps on his first day of business. It was a slippery slope, much like the one we are on today in Florida and other states with the death worshipping crowds. Do you know how it is that Hitler was able to gain support for his agendas? I did a little research. I thought I would share this bit of info:
During the same period that Hitler decreed the Rhineland sterilizations, a German medical economist pointed out, in an article entitled 'The Fight Against Degeneration,' that the care of a deaf-mute or cripple cost 6 marks a day, that of a reform school inmate 4.85 marks, and that of a mentally ill or deficient person 4.50 marks. The average earnings of a laborer, on the other hand, were only 2.50 marks, and those of a civil servant 4 marks daily. (The exchange rate at the time was about forty cents -- 2.50 marks to the dollar.) The economist lamented: 'The state spends far more for the existence of these actually worthless compatriots than for the salary of a healthy man, who must bring up a healthy family,' and hinted that it was too bad that a more radical program than sterilization could not be employed.
PART II (continued from above)
Then, instead of coming out and just legalizing the killing of these people, he just...............Legalized it. He wrote this on his personal stationary:
ADOLF HITLER
Berlin, 1 September 1939
Reichsleiter Bouhler andDr. med. Brandt
are instructed to broaden the powers of physicians designated by name, who will decide whether those who have - as far as can be humanly determined - incurable illnesses can, after the most careful evaluation, be granted a mercy death.
/signed/ Adolf Hitler
Between December 1939 and August 1941, about 50,000 to 60,000 Germans children and adults were secretly killed by lethal injections or in gassing installations designed to look like shower stalls. It was a foretaste of Auschwitz. The victims were taken from the medical institution and put to death....
Never to Forget - New York:HarperCollins, 1976
Did you pick up on that? It was a "foretaste of Auschwitz."
This little "project" became known as T-4.
PART III (last part)
Of the number of people killed in the T4 and the 14f13 projects, the following statistics are usually given: adult mental patients from institutions, 80,000 to 100,000; children in institutions, 5,000; special action against Jews in institutions, 1,000; concentration camp inmates transported to killing centers (14f13), 20,000 (Klee estimated that at the end of 1941, some 93,521 `beds' had been emptied for other uses [70,000 patients gassed, plus over 20,000 dead through medication] - in other words approximately one-third of the places for the mentally ill.) But these figures may well be too low; twice these numbers of people may have perished. The fact is that we do not know and shall probably never know. Elements of deception, imposed chaos, and the destruction of many records make anything like an accurate estimate impossible.
The same is true concerning the total number of people murdered at specific killing centers. Hartheim victims of both ordinary `euthanasia' and 14f13 are variously estimated from 20,000 (by Dr. Georg Renno, Lonauer's successor as director), to 400,000 (by Franz Ziereis, the former commandant of Mauthausen, on his deathbed); 30,000 is believed to be the best estimate. While these figures may seem unimpressive when placed next to the millions killed in the Final Solution, they represent the murder of shockingly large numbers of peopleall in places characterized as hospitals." (The Nazi Doctors: Medical Killing and the Psychology of Genocide. London: Papermac, 1986 (Reprinted 1990) p. 142).
Have you heard those defending the murder of Terri using the term "mercy?"
The choice of terminology for the program is consistent with the Nazis' penchant for euphemisms. Euthanasia typically means "mercy killing". In the 1990's in the United States and other western nations, it has become synonymous with "physician-assisted suicide."
The most amazing thing I have seen on this thread is that those who seem to support starving Terri to death want to paint the rest of us as a bunch of emotional fanatics so wrapped up in right to life issues that we don't care about facts or some poor woman suffering as long as we can serve our agenda--
Yet- I submit to you that it is those fighting to save Terri that have actually DONE their homework and researched this case. If all you have is the word of a cheating husband eager to get the cash and rid himself of his wife so he can marry his girly-friend and a host OF CONFLICTS OF INTERESTS by the judge and his clan- I would guess it someone else whom is ignoring logic and facts, not doing the research and homework, and serving thier own agendas.
Has Greer been spending any money he can't account for?
not for me. There are plenty of people in nursing homes now that can use all the help everyone is willing to give. I'm being realistic is all.
I'm not a hypocrite. I'm not interested in visiting her, but thank you for the encouragement all the same.
Well, I, on the other hand, would love to visit Terri, and I am not allowed by Michael. He wouldn't even let 'Santa' visit her at Christmas time. Guess Santa might have seen that Terri really isn't as bad off as Michael is portraying.
And why does she have to STARVE TO DEATH?? Hmm? in a sane and compassionate world people would be able to die a peaceful and painless death. The only reason they have to die this way is because of people like you, so don't give me your sanctimonius crap, please.
So you knew her before she became this way?
sanctimonius crap?
I'm sanctimonious because I am against killing handicapped people?
I don't care if they were going to put her under and then give her an injection--it is the KILLING her that is wrong!
There is a HUGE difference between assisted suicide/euthenasia, ans killling someone who wants to live....HUGE difference!!!
No, I did not. If I had been one of her close friends, I would probably be on that visitation list. There's only a couple dozen people on it that are allowed. Michael, of course, can allow anyone who goes with him to visit her, such as Jodi, his children, whomever he sees fit for the time being. Michael forbids any of the rest of us to visit her, even if we went with the Schindlers. I have asked. The answer was no.
I do understand about Terri's true privacy rights, and I would never encroach on them without permission. Michael's paranoia about it goes beyond reason, though. He simply doesn't want anyone to see Terri's true condition. That's why he won't allow Larry King or Greta Van Susteran's crews in for a visit. That's why he won't allow her to get her wheelchair fixed and to be taken outside for fresh air. He wants her privacy for his interests, not hers. How else do you explain his dissertation about the indelicacies of Terri's gynecological exams on Larry King Live? He does not have Terri's true best interests at heart, and it is obvious.
Bump.
Of course I agree with you on that one...the operative word is WANT TO LIVE. And you don't really know that about Terri's wishes, nor do I. However, did I read you right when you said if somebody wants to die, they should be able to and have it assisted?
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