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Hockey Fans Haven't Seen Worst Yet
NBCSports.com ^ | 02/17/2005 | Bob Duff

Posted on 02/17/2005 6:17:52 AM PST by drt1

They all should be ashamed of themselves.

The owners. The players. Everybody.

The deal was there to be done and both sides refused to go the extra mile to make it happen.

"We have failed," was how Calgary Flames president and chief executive officer Ken King summed it up.

As he cancelled the season Wednesday, National Hockey League commissioner Gary Bettman described it as a "Sad and regrettable day."

You got that right....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bettman; bettmansucks; fan; firebettman; goonsonice; hockey; nhl; strike; whatisthishockey; yawn
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"Bettman guaranteed that all NHL teams would survive the shutdown and contraction wasn’t an issue." - Huh?? What planet is this guy inhabiting at present?
1 posted on 02/17/2005 6:17:53 AM PST by drt1
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To: drt1

Considering that Bettman has said that 20 / 30 of the franchises have lost money, the owners should now be happy. They won't lose any money this year.

Same old, Same old. Millionaires and billionaires fighting over money.


2 posted on 02/17/2005 6:21:24 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (Liberal tagline: Work harder! Millions on welfare depend on you!)
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To: drt1
They all should be ashamed of themselves. The owners. The players. Everybody.

Yeah! Everybody! Even the fans should be ashamed ... because ... because ... well, OK, maybe not everyone should be ashamed.

3 posted on 02/17/2005 6:22:20 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: drt1

I believe the player's union is to blame. The owners were well within their rights to demand a salary cap. For way too long, players have been paid way more than was sustainable. Sure, certain owners are to blame for that. But the NHLPA waited until the last hour to say they would accept a cap. Had they done that months ago, the players may be skating today.

The NHL will be a better league after this. It will be more competitive and more profitable for owners. That can only benefit the fans in the long run, IMO.


4 posted on 02/17/2005 6:23:05 AM PST by JCRoberts (We're at war. You think we're going to win it with a bunch of fish-eaters...Denny Crane)
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To: drt1; Betis70; CurlyBill; Hat-Trick
Hockey ping.

Anyone have reports of idiotic things their team owners said during their team pressers yesterday??

Chicago Blackhawks owner Bill Wirtz said, "You can't erase the pregnancy with vanishing cream." Figure that one out.
5 posted on 02/17/2005 6:25:19 AM PST by retrokitten (By Grabthar's hammer, by the sons of Worvan, you shall be avenged.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Pro sports salaries are way out of line. Yes, it's economics and fans are foolish enough to pay a lot for tickets to attend games. On top of that they are also asked to fork out tax money to build arenas and stadiums for the millionaires to play in. College sports are far more enjoyable.


6 posted on 02/17/2005 6:25:21 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: drt1

Thank you, Unions, you make America great.

/sarc


7 posted on 02/17/2005 6:25:21 AM PST by jtminton ("I shall never surrender or retreat." William Barret Travis Lt. Col. Comdt., Bexar, Feb 24th 1836)
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To: JCRoberts

Agreed... Hockey Players are far overpaid based on the revenues the teams and league generate. The fact that they were willing to cut off their noses to spite their faces shows they got what they deserved.


8 posted on 02/17/2005 6:25:46 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: JCRoberts

I agree with you completely.


9 posted on 02/17/2005 6:26:14 AM PST by rb22982
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To: drt1

I support the owners, but we sure miss hockey at our house.


10 posted on 02/17/2005 6:26:55 AM PST by arichtaxpayer (We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail.)
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Hockey Fans Haven't Seen Worst Yet

Don't tell me they're considering expansion again!

11 posted on 02/17/2005 6:27:28 AM PST by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: All

Look at the bright side. There's still boxing. Think of it as hockey without the skates and sticks. (Sorry but, the gloves have to stay on.)


12 posted on 02/17/2005 6:27:59 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: drt1

There are too many teams as it is now. I could see a few of the franchises in areas that aren't really natural hockey areas going under. The NHL expanded way too much, and way too fast. I could see the Florida franchises surviving due to all the snowbird retirees, but for places like Phoenix, Atlanta, and Nashville, they could easily be gone by the time the next puck is dropped.


13 posted on 02/17/2005 6:28:24 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Ted Kennedy: Boldly driving a '68 Olds where no '68 Olds had gone before)
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To: arichtaxpayer

Well Tampa Bay still has the Cup, and we are not giving it back! So there!!! :-)~


14 posted on 02/17/2005 6:28:54 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (My quaker parrot can talk, can Your honor student fly?)
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To: HamiltonJay

I may get some flack...but oh if that it would spread over to basketball and football....I am so sick of all the millionaires crying about their salary.


15 posted on 02/17/2005 6:29:23 AM PST by native texan
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To: JCRoberts

A cap has worked just fine in the NFL. If you look at pro sports the NFL is the most competitive and small market teams can compete with the big market teams. It's time for the other sports to realize that their systems are broke and need to be fixed. They have a good working model in the NFL and should look at that system as a way to make their sports more competitive. Right now, with MLB about ready to start you have the usual suspects in the hunt with everyone else on the outside looking in. It killed my love of baseball. The only sport I'll watch anymore is football. That is because it is the only major pro sport that puts out a product that is major league.


17 posted on 02/17/2005 6:30:30 AM PST by MadAnthony1776 ("liberalism" = "do as I say, not as I do")
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To: JCRoberts

I blame everything on the NY Rangers!


18 posted on 02/17/2005 6:30:38 AM PST by Holicheese (This is Hockey East)
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To: JCRoberts
Hi Heard the owner of a local junior team say it like it is: on average (across the league), the players are holding out for an extra 200K based on a $2M salary.

Pure greed, and there's enough to go around.

Would an NHL player rather play hockey for a "pitiful" but astounding $500,000 a year or be an office clerk (assuming they have the skills) for $40,000? Nope, they'd rather do nothing.
19 posted on 02/17/2005 6:31:02 AM PST by Stevieboy
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To: tiredoflaundry

I am just glad the Bruins didn't get knocked out in the first round of the playoffs again!


20 posted on 02/17/2005 6:31:16 AM PST by Holicheese (This is Hockey East)
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