Posted on 02/16/2005 11:47:42 AM PST by Salvation
NURSES ASSERT THAT SCHIAVO WOMAN, SET TO HAVE FEEDING STOPPED, HAS SPOKEN WORDS SUCH AS 'HI,' 'MOMMA,' AND 'HELP ME'
Nurses who tended to Terri Schiavo -- the Florida woman whose feeding and water tubes may soon be removed -- have stated in affidavits provided by her family that the 41-year-old has exhibited clear-cut behavior indicating she is conscious and aware of her surroundings.
In stunning testimony, one nurse, Heidi Law, a certified nursing assistant who took care of Terri when she was at Palm Gardens Nursing Home in Largo, Florida, in 1997, said that the severely disabled woman formed words such as "mommy, "momma," and most hauntingly, "help me."
"While it is true that those patients will flinch or make sounds occasionally, they don't do it as a reaction to someone on a constant basis who is taking care of them, the way I saw Terri do," claimed Law in a formal deposition. "I witnessed a priest visiting Terri a couple of times. Terri would become quiet when he prayed with her. She couldn't bow her head because of her stiff neck, but she would still try. During the prayer, she would keep her eyes closed, opening them afterward. She laughed at jokes he told her. I definitely know that Terri 'is in there.'"
The testimony, contained in affidavits provided to Spirit Daily by her family, the Schindlers, who are desperately attempting to prevent her death, contradicts widespread perceptions that Terri is a nearly brain-dead or comatose woman living in a vegetative state. In fact, by some indications the woman may have greatly improved had she been provided adequate therapy.
"I have heard her say 'mommy' from time to time, and 'momma,' and she also said 'help me' a number of times. She would frequently make noises like she was trying to talk," said Law.
That the disabled woman acknowledges the presence of her parents, responds to music, and follows the movement of objects such as a balloon has long been known and documented by videos [click here]; and the affidavits have appeared on advocacy websites. Indeed, the caretakers have testified that Terri seemed to stare out her window as if waiting for her mother -- not only denied therapy, but also in a small room with a radio that her husband allowed to be left on only a single station.
But that she actually formed words is attested by a second caretaker, Carla Sauer Iyer, a registered nurse who was at Palm Garden from 1995 to 1997.
"Terri's medical condition was systematically distorted and misrepresented," stated Iyer in her own affidavit for the family -- testimony that was not allowed into court by a judge who has consistently ruled against the Schindlers. "When I worked with her, she was alert and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence, saying such things as 'mommy' and 'help me.' 'Help me' was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times. Terri would try to say the word 'pain' when she was in discomfort, but it came out more like 'pay.' When I came into her room and said 'Hi, Terri,' she would always recognize my voice and her name, and would turn her head all the way toward me, saying, 'Haaaiiiii,' sort of, as she did. I recognized this as a 'hi,' which is very close to what it sounded like, the whole sound being only a second or two long. When I told her stories about my life, or something I read in the paper, Terri would sometimes chuckle, sometimes more a giggle or laugh."
The nurses said the Schiavo woman was often silent for hours and in a "cold sweat" after her husband visited. It was her husband Michael -- now living with a woman by whom he has had two children -- who the nurses said limited her rehabilitation and allegedly "intimidated" staff at the nursing home -- charges that, if true, warrant a major investigation. (Let us emphasize that thus far they are just that: allegations.)
"I made numerous entries into the nursing notes in her chart, stating verbatim what she said and her various behaviors, but by my next on-duty shift, the notes would be deleted from her chart," claimed Iyer in potentially devastating detail. "Every time I made a positive entry about any responsiveness of Terri's, someone would remove it after my shift ended. Michael always demanded to see her chart as soon as he arrived, and would take it in her room with him."
Schiavo, they assert, was denied rehabilitation even though there was evidence that at times she could swallow on her own. "I personally saw her swallow the ice water and never saw her gag," said Law. "On three or four occasions I personally fed Terri mouthfuls of Jello, which she was able to swallow and enjoyed immensely. I did not do it more often only because I was afraid of being caught by Michael."
The affidavits, it must be underscored, were conducted in 2003 on behalf of the Schindlers, and as such are in the category of advocacy for their position. Moreover, other nurses who tended to Terri have not yet been fully debriefed in public. Some experts have asserted that Terri's responses are not coordinated ones but nearly instinctual or reflex-like, indicating no real awareness.
But the facts as presented in the affidavits indicate quite differently -- if the testimony is correct, shockingly so. The two nurses portray Terri as a woman who adores baths, liked having her hair combed, and enjoyed a sweet-smelling lotion and soft nightgowns her mother provided.
"Every day, Terri was gotten up after lunch and sat in a chair all afternoon," said Law. "When Terri was in bed, she very much preferred to lie on her right side and look out the window. We always said that she was watching for her mother. It was very obvious that her mother was her favorite person in the whole world."
It is now her parents and siblings who are desperately fighting to prevent her husband from "pulling the plug" on feeding and hydration tubes, which could occur as soon as this month if the Schindlers do not win court victories. So far, judicial decisions have been baffling, with little consideration to Schiavo's state when an actual appearance by the woman might be all that is necessary to display her true condition. Thus far, only the actions of Governor Jeb Bush and the Schindler lawyers have prevented her death. But last week a Pinellas County judge turned down a request to set aside his order allowing Terri's feeding tube be removed, closing yet another legal avenue to her parents in their quest to keep her alive.
Instead of rehabilitation, a "do not resuscitate" sign has been hung on her door. The woman has been denied Holy Communion and Mass attendance, her father told Spirit Daily two weeks ago.
Iyer claims that she "became fearful for my personal safety" and was terminated after she called police about comments and activities at the nursing home relative to the Schiavo woman. "When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the door closed and locked while he was with Terri," the affidavit alleges. "He would typically be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would be trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold sweats. It looked to me like Terri was having a hypoglycemic reaction, so I'd check her blood sugar." The glucometer reading would be so low it was below the range where it would register an actual number reading. I would put dextrose in Terri's mouth to counteract it. This happened about five times on my shift as I recall. Normally Terri's blood-sugar levels were very stable due to the uniformity of her diet through tube feeding."
Added Law, the nursing assistant, "When she was upset, which was usually the case after Michael was there, she would withdraw for hours... Several times when Michael visited during my shift, he went into her room alone and closed the door. When he left, Terri was very agitated, was extremely tense with tightened fists, and sometimes had a cold sweat. She was much less responsive than usual and would just stare out the window, her eyes kind of glassy."
Bumping your remarks -- so true.
He'd come alone her room, shut the door, and scare the hell out of her. That man has no fear of the Living God.
Wait till he meets his Creator on his deathbed. Uh-oh!
Headed the wrong direction, Michael?
By messing with her diet, he would've done something to drop her blood sugar.....Does Terri require insulin shots?
It's suspicious, I wonder if they documented all of this.
I think she needs better lawyers.
Wishful thinking perhaps but it seems to me that any ruling in this case by Judge Greer should be ignored by the Governor, Legislature and law enforcement. Why? Fundamentally, the case comes down to competing claims of Terri's condition. If the judge rules without actually viewing the evidence--Terri--his ruling should be ignored.
Just my opinion, of course.
Has the family tried seeing if she could suck liquids from a straw, or eat baby food from a spoon? The judge can only order the feeding tube removed, he can't order her not to be fed.
Oh yeah.
Michael Shiavo is a scumbag of the 1st Order.
If Terri's dad had any balls, he'd have popped a cap on this dirtball a LONG time ago.
The article sounded like they did and then Michael would have things removed from the charts.
Do nurses ever secretly photocopy charts is cases like this so they have the actual (unaltered) record? I realize they would probably get in trouble with their supervisor in the short run, but in the long run -- they would be the heros.
She says Hi, Mom, Help, and Pain in her own way, she laughs and cries and swallows. Hospital documents proving same in spades are systematically altered to hide it. Great news!
Terri has another ace up her sleeve: if they pull the tubes she'll still live much longer than they expect because the sympathetic will just give her sufficient gelatin.
Then Voldemort's claim will be exhausted that she does not want artificial extension, she'll get along fine without it.
It's pathetic when it takes you 15 years to finish a murder!
Unfortunately you are incorrect. The judge ordered that no one try and feed her. A priest was threatened with jailtime for offering a wafer for sacrement.
There has to be something to why he is intent on killing her - he has another woman - kids - wouldn't you think you would just go away & leave her to her parents? There was an article on Free Rep. site a week or so ago that he dated some woman for a year and then stalked her and threatened her etc. He sounds like someone capable of doing harm which is what I think happened to Terri all those years ago & he's afraid she'll talk if she gets better. He is the one that should stop being fed! What a jerk wad!
Anyone know anything about that judge?
He's trying to kill her with a lawyer, how could it be possible to be more evil than that?
"Anyone know anything about that judge?"
Unfortunately we know plenty.
Would someone far more skilled than I please post a link to Judge Greer's statement that "noone try and feed that girl"
It has beeen on several threads recently.
Thanks
MsP
He took her to California for electro-shock "therapy" yet can't arrange for her dental hygene and other therapies.
Every time I made a positive entry about any responsiveness of Terri's, someone would remove it after my shift ended.
I don't understand how this could happen.
Hospitals have ways of dealing with documentation problems and suspicious activity. The nurses involved should've notified their nurse manager or the risk manager of the hospital when they saw or suspected their documentation was tampered with. Documentation would've been done in ink, and mistakes or corrections would have to be crossed out and initialled.
Also, if they noticed some "page" missing they could've added an addendum to the chart about the missing information.
I don't understand why Michael was allowed to have the chart and not be watched publically with it. That's bizarre, it's a legal/medical record for Terri.
This judge has, in the past, ordered that she's to have nothing (even a Communion wafer) by mouth.
Don't want her choking to death, is his reason.
It's astounding this man can keep his seat on the bench.
I hope that's true. I haven't followed this, having found that there is little tolerance for the questions of newbies to Terri threads... But what the heck... In spite the obvious first instinct for all to jump on this bandwagon, I'd caution that it's not real strong testimony. The first witness is not a nurse, but rather a CNA... and neither person has seen Terri in 8 over years.
While I agree that the final choice should no longer be in her ex-husbands hands (he should be just walk away both finacially and emotionally)What specific proof do you have that he murdered or tried to murder her? I don't want a "well I think he did" but specific proof, evidence etc...
BTW This is not a troll, I've heard this charge thrown around and have yet seen any evidence (real not imagined) to prove it.)
Just because your a letter before b hole doesn't follow you are a murderer. If that were true we'd all be ridin the lightning.
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