Posted on 02/16/2005 7:35:13 AM PST by MisterRepublican
Please read #52 and note that the posters claimed that nude swimming was FORCED on unwilling swimmers by his public scool.
should be 'considered far too virtuous'.
Yall keep leaving out the FORCED by a public school. It is the FORCED that I have a problem believing.
And do people honestly believe that this provided absolutely no effective incentive for young men not to have sex with young women? Do people really think that the thought, "Do I want to spend the rest of my life with this girl?" didn't cross the minds of those boys and that this didn't make more than a few of them keep their flies zipped because the answer was "No" or "I'm not sure"?
When you say "huge percentage" I really need a reference or link to support that. I'll believe that there were more prostitutes then than now for reasons I have stated, but I have trouble believing working and middle class women went into the "business" in huge percentages.
Yes, that is true too. The only thing more shameful than a woman who had a kid out of wedlock was the man who would not do the honorable thing and marry the woman he impregnated. The problem is that society had stopped stigmatizing both sexes for irresponsibility.
Me too. I'm 42, and I've seen a huge change.
Ditch Social Security.
No, I'm sure those same men had no problem having sex with white women, either. But some of them weren't married, and white girls who did that sort of thing outside of marriage were considered tramps and excluded from polite society. And some of those men were just plain old adulterers.
Your point? Nobody's claiming that all men respected all women at all times, at any point in human history.
In that the children didn't have a choice, yeah, I believe it. I believe that some schools forced showers, too. I can ask my father about it but I suspect it was more a matter of children simply not being given the option to refuse what an adult in authority was telling them to do.
True, but something like a third of Southerners had a slave in their household. I imagine daddy, his sons, visiting male family members and assorted male guests were all free to sample the pleasures of the female slaves of the the household.
Hmmm, Hillary looks reaaally happy in that picture, wonder why?
My point was that only white women's feminine virtue was celebrated and put up on a pedestal. There is nothing desirable about that sort of bigotry.
Why? In high school, we were required to take a shower after gym class, whether we wanted to or not.
You "imagine" or you have evidence? It's easy to "imagine" situations that support any point of view. "I imagine that aliens used to use mind control rays on people before 1968 to prevent them from wanting premarital sex." See how easy it is? It's also entirely worthless as an argument.
LOL, I was talking about since the 50's and 60's when I grew up. Sorry for the confusion.
Civil Rights are certainly better since the government stopped supporting the violation of them.
Electric light?
We had them. But no TV in my house for much of the time.
Fresh non-concentrated orange juice
That's the only kind we had in my house for most of my childhood.
Sex sells.
A very interesting read on the subject: The Torches of Freedom Campaign: Behaviorism, Advertising, and the Rise of the American Empire
bb you said it right... at no point ever in American history has a black women been seen as virtuous and feminine. Look at old films. As for slavery days, a white man didn't need to be a slave owner to know a black woman was easy pickings not protected by any rape laws whatsoever.
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