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Holland: Hindu temple under attack by Muslims
dhimmiwatch ^ | feb 2005 | Cid Martel

Posted on 02/16/2005 12:11:05 AM PST by dennisw

Holland: Hindu temple under attack by Muslims

Cid Martel of Dutchdisease.com has kindly sent over this translation of a Dutch-language article.

Why is it permissible in the Dutch press to say "Hindu" but not "Muslim," so that we get a story about a "Hindu" temple attacked by "Moroccan" youth? Are we supposed to believe that Moroccans as such have some animus toward Hindus? Are we to assume that this is fallout from some border dispute between Morocco and India? (You didn't know they shared a border? Of course they do. It runs just southwest of Poland China, the famous hog-breeding nation.)

A Hindu temple in The Hague, the Ram Mandir, is frequently being attacked by a group of Moroccan youth. Young Hindus are so fed up with the situation they want to take matters into their own hands. Morrocans shove dog faeces through the mailbox and have broken into the temple twice, stolen a statue, urinated inside and stolen money from the moneybox. Mister S. Ramdhani, a Hindu priest, says: “They spit, don’t let visitors pass through, robbed two elderly ladies and then threatened them not to press charges. Our secretary was attacked with a stick.”

Ramdhani doesn’t want young Hindus and Moroccans to clash. “If groups start fighting each other we get a very bad situation. We can’t have that here in Holland.” Ramdhani is very embittered about the case. Last year he was given a ribbon by the queen for his contribution to the integration of foreigners in the neighbourhood. Every year thousands of students from The Hague come to the temple to learn more about the Hindu faith; it’s also a haven for troubled teens. Since 9/11 Ramdhani has been trying to reach out to Christians and Muslims.

The trouble caused by Moroccan youth has made a dent in Ramdhani’s idealism. He’s thinking about no longer attending the 9/11 meetings. “I feel discriminated against. Why they have to choose our temple? There is a mosque nearby. Why don’t they go over there to cause trouble? They must hate the Hindu faith. Otherwise I don’t know.”

Rabin Baldewsingh, a member of the city council for the social-democrats, asked mayor Deetman for help. The police says it’s ‘on the agenda’.

Sure it is.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: dhimmi; eurabia; globaljihad; holland; india; islam; koranimals; netherlands; religionofpeace
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To: CarrotAndStick
" The sad fact is, while the rest of the world thinks Crusades are history"

Which Crusades? The Christian Crusades to stop the Muhammadan's from slaughtering their way into Europe may be over, but the Muhammadan crusades have never stopped, they were just slowed. The Muslim crusades have been continuing on quite openly for the last few decades now, except our backward media keeps calling them everything except what they really are.

21 posted on 02/16/2005 1:24:59 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: dennisw
Many Dutch immigrated to USA. Ever hear of New Holland in Michigan?

yup.

I've looked at the DHS website and the USCIS pages for the requirements of immigration.

The possibilities:

Immigration through family member: impossible, I have no relatives in the US, unless some lady out there wants to 'help' in that department :-)

Immigration through employment (or: permanent employment opportunity), in short, you need a job. I'll take almost (I said almost) anything, but where to search?

The diversity lottery is closed for the 2005 season. Does the USA take political refugees? :-)

22 posted on 02/16/2005 1:34:01 AM PST by William of Orange (I'm a DU troll pretending to be a FReeper, how am I doing?)
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To: Gengis Khan; dennisw

With whom do Muslims have cordial ties on a universal basis???They slaughter Christians in Sudan & the Caucusus,Hindus in India,Pakistan & Bangladesh-even the poor communists can't be left out given the state of Afghanistan's comrades & the former Yugoslavia!!!Really can't blame the ordinary muslim for this-his religion advocates treachery to meet their ends.


23 posted on 02/16/2005 1:45:10 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: William of Orange

We would accept you as a reasonable, intelligent, perceptive, right-thinking person. Or more succinctly stated, a conservative.

A.A.C.


24 posted on 02/16/2005 1:50:30 AM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: William of Orange
Then why do the Dutch elect such creeps??

we don't, we don't elect mayors around here, they are appointed by the queen (who is also a notorious Islam apologist). Then you would say, change the system, easier said than done, the regents have closed off many an avenue here.

I would suggest a bloody good revolution is in order. I would use the American experience as a guide. About one-third are for the Royals and the status quo. About a third would like to clean up the land. About a third don't care. In America, the Royalists and their lackeys got their asses kicked. In fact, the Revolutionaries mostly fought professional British soldiers. Unless the Queen hires mercenaries, it should be over in a week.

25 posted on 02/16/2005 1:52:51 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: William of Orange

I thought you might like the humor of appealing to the UN. :-)

As for political refugees from Europe, we have a lot of them in the U.S. already. My cab driver two months back was a Norwegian. I asked him what he thought about the elections and he launched into a monologue in absolute support of President Bush, America, and the Republican Party.

He called himself, a "refugee" from Europe.


26 posted on 02/16/2005 1:55:07 AM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: sukhoi-30mki; dennisw

I can understand Pakistani,Bangladeshi or even Indian Muslim holding a grudge against Hindus. I can understand Islamic terrorist attacking temples in India. I can understand Sudanese Muslims holding a grudge against Sudanese Christians or even Chechenian Muslim holding a grudge against Russians......for whatever reasons. But Morrocan Muslim having a grudge against Hindus. I dont suppose there are many Hindus in Morroco (docs or Computers Engineers taking away local jobs). So what problem do they have with us?


27 posted on 02/16/2005 2:00:56 AM PST by Gengis Khan ("There is no glory in incomplete action." -- Gengis Khan)
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To: Gengis Khan

Simple-the main point is jealousy as the Yindoos tend to mind their own business & seek to get through college & get a good job.That's not the same with most North African Muslim immigrants in Europe who record very high crimerates.Add to this the usual mix of being Kafirs & Hindus killing Muslims & Hindus allying with Jews & you have a pretty decent motive.

This is not restricted to the Netherlands alone-the same reasons were attributed to Pakistani Muslim youth going after Hindu youth in the UK.& it's not about Muslims alone!!!Ive read that Pakistani & Bangladeshi Muslims in the UK are real jealous of their Indian Muslim counterparts given that they are in relatively better positions.I remember a pretty controversial BBC survey in 2001 which said that Indian Muslims in the UK were 4 times more likely to get employed by non-Muslims than Pakistani or Bangladeshi ones.The figure for Hindus,Sikhs & Christians were ofcourse much higher.


28 posted on 02/16/2005 2:09:26 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: dennisw

religion of peace bump


29 posted on 02/16/2005 2:45:49 AM PST by ViLaLuz
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To: dennisw

"What is all this fuss I keep hearing about maracas? Maracas are harmless musical instruments that...Morrocans? Oh! That's very different, then! Never mind!"

30 posted on 02/16/2005 3:05:38 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel ("Senator, we can have this discussion in any way that you would like.")
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To: dennisw
Why is it permissible in the Dutch press to say "Hindu" but not "Muslim," so that we get a story about a "Hindu" temple attacked by "Moroccan" youth?

Good question!

31 posted on 02/16/2005 3:29:05 AM PST by A. Pole (Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
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To: dennisw

According to the tolerant Islam, "people of the book" (Christians and Jews) are to be tolerated on some conditions. Others (like Hindu and other pagans or atheists) have choice between death or conversion.


32 posted on 02/16/2005 3:33:42 AM PST by A. Pole (Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
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To: dennisw

The death cult is turning their children into hate filled monsters.


33 posted on 02/16/2005 3:37:44 AM PST by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Simple-the main point is jealousy as the Yindoos tend to mind their own business & seek to get through college & get a good job.That's not the same with most North African Muslim immigrants in Europe who record very high crimerates.Add to this the usual mix of being Kafirs & Hindus killing Muslims & Hindus allying with Jews & you have a pretty decent motive.

This is not restricted to the Netherlands alone-the same reasons were attributed to Pakistani Muslim youth going after Hindu youth in the UK.& it's not about Muslims alone!!!Ive read that Pakistani & Bangladeshi Muslims in the UK are real jealous of their Indian Muslim counterparts given that they are in relatively better positions.I remember a pretty controversial BBC survey in 2001 which said that Indian Muslims in the UK were 4 times more likely to get employed by non-Muslims than Pakistani or Bangladeshi ones.The figure for Hindus,Sikhs & Christians were ofcourse much higher.

On top of that, Muslims consider Hindus "idolators," worse than Christians and Jews. Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians are considered "People of the Book" and have a few rights under Islam. "Idolatrous" Hindus and Buddhists have none. Muslim hatred of non-Muslims seems to be innate.

Funny thing is that there is less "radical" (relatively-speaking) Islam in Morocco than in most other Muslim countries. Plus, the Berbers of North Africa (who make up about half of the population of Morocco) are adamantly opposed to Islamic fundamentalism because they, correctly, associate it with Arabization and are staunchly opposed to that! Berbers dislike Arabs.

34 posted on 02/16/2005 3:49:34 AM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: William of Orange

Your English is perfect, come on over!

Your best bet is probably via some highly skilled employment type thing.

They are always saying they need more HB-1 (something like that) visas for hi-tech types.


35 posted on 02/16/2005 4:12:54 AM PST by jocon307 (Vote George Washington for the #1 spot)
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To: William of Orange

William -- it looks from here in some ways as if the Dutch are fighting back. Isn't there some momentum from the Fortuyn and Van Gogh murders to activate Dutch Conservatives? I have always enjoyed my visits to your country -- I thought Den Haag was the relatively Conservative part of The Netherlands. Anyway, if you do come here -- and we would love to have you -- could you bring some herring and entwersoup with you?


36 posted on 02/16/2005 4:47:23 AM PST by speedy
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
In America, the Royalists and their lackeys got their asses kicked

And later on, when America invaded Canada, the Royalists kicked the snot out of the Americans. Hmm, History.

37 posted on 02/16/2005 5:11:04 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: CarrotAndStick

Sure looks that way....from what I've read...Britain is having their own Muslim problems as well....it's almost as if the Muslim community has planned it this way all along....Muslims are very patient people, so I've also read, and they also know the people in America are an impatient lot.....let us hope that is not what dooms us and the future of this country.


38 posted on 02/16/2005 5:17:20 AM PST by smiley
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To: dennisw

Maybe they should ask for help from their cousins, the Sikhs. A few fellows over six feet tall with turbans and swords, and the knowledge of how to use them (the swords, not the turbans), would probably make the Muslims (Moroccans is a redundancy) think twice about harming Indian Hindu property.


39 posted on 02/16/2005 5:29:29 AM PST by katana
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To: speedy
herring and entwersoup

... and don't forget the Reistafel (sp?), the best thing to ever come out of Dutch Indonesia.

40 posted on 02/16/2005 5:32:30 AM PST by katana
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