Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Great American Job Sellout
google groups ^ | feb 2005 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 02/15/2005 6:44:11 AM PST by dennisw

"The Great American Job Sellout By Paul Craig Roberts

Americans are being sold out on the jobs front. Americans' employment opportunities are declining as a result of corporate outsourcing of US jobs, H-1B visas that import foreigners to displace Americans in their own country, and federal guest worker programs

President Bush and his Republican majority intend to legalize the aliens who hold down wages for construction companies and cleaning services. In order to stretch budgets, state and local governments bring in lower paid foreign nurses and school teachers. To reduce costs, US corporations outsource jobs abroad and use work visa programs to import foreign engineers and programmers. The American job give away is explained by a "shortage" of Americans to take the jobs.

There are not too many Americans willing to accept the pay and working conditions of migrant farm workers. However, the US is bursting at the seams with unemployed computer engineers and well-educated professionals who are displaced by outsourcing and H-1B visas. During Bush's entire first term, there was a net loss of American private sector jobs. Today there are 760,000 fewer private sector jobs in the US economy than when Bush was first inaugurated in January 2001.

For years the hallmark of the European economy was its inability to create any jobs other than government jobs. America has caught up with Europe. During Bush's first term, state and local government created 879,000 new government jobs. Offsetting these government jobs against the net loss in private sector jobs gives Bush a four-year jobs growth of 119,000 government jobs. Comparing this pathetic result to normal performance produces a shortage of 8 million US jobs. What happened to these jobs?

Over these same four years the composition of US jobs has changed from higher-paid manufacturing and information technology jobs to lower-paid domestic services. Why?

During this extraordinary breakdown in the American employment machine, politicians, government officials, corporate spokespersons, and "free trade" economists gave assurances that America was benefitting greatly from the work visa programs and outsourcing.

The mindless chatter continues. Just the other day Ambassador David Gross, US Coordinator for International Communications and Information Policy in the State Department, declared outsourcing to be an economic efficiency that works to America's benefit. There is no sign of this alleged benefit in US jobs statistics or the US balance of trade.

Repeatedly and incorrectly, US corporations state that outsourcing creates more US jobs. They even convinced a New York Times columnist that this was the case.

The problem is, no one can identify where the US jobs are that outsourcing allegedly creates. They are certainly not to be found in the BLS jobs statistics. However, the Indian and Chinese jobs created by US outsourcing are highly visible.

On February 13, the Dayton (Ohio) Daily News reported that jobs outsourcing is transforming Indian "cities like Bangalore from sleepy little backwaters into the New York Cities of Asia." In a very short period outsourcing has helped to raise India from one of the world's poorest countries to its seventh largest economy.

Outsourcing proponents claim that US job loss is being exaggerated, that outsourcing is really just a small thing involving a few call centers. If that is the case, how is it transforming sleepy Indian cities into "the New York Cities of Asia"? If outsourcing is no big deal, why are Bangalore hotel rooms "packed with foreigners paying rates higher than in Tokyo or London," as the Dayton Daily News reports?

If outsourcing is of no real consequence, why are American lawyers or their clients paying $2,900 in fees plus hotel and travel expenses and two days' billings to attend the Fourth National Conference on Outsourcing in Financial Services in Washington DC (April 20-21)?

On the jobs front, as on the war front, the social security front and every other front, Americans are not being given the truth. Americans' news comes from people allied with the Bush administration or dependent on revenues from corporate advertisers. Displease the government or advertisers and your media empire is in trouble. The news most Americans get is filtered. It is the permitted news. Many "free trade" advocates also are dependent on the corporate money that funds their salaries, research and think tanks.

Another clear indication that outsourcing of US jobs is no small thing comes from the reported earnings of the leading Indian corporations that provide American firms with outsourced IT employees and engineers. During the recent quarter, Infosys' revenues increased by 53%, TCS grew by 38%, and Wipro was up 34%.

On January 1, 2001, Cincinnati-based Convergys Corp had one Indian employee. Today it has 10,000. Why? Because it can hire Indian university graduates for $240 a month, a sum that is a small fraction of the US poverty level income.

Many Americans think that an outsourced job is an existing job that is moved offshore. But many outsourced jobs are created offshore in the first place. On February 11, USA Today told the story of OfficeTiger, "the sort of young technology company that once created thousands of high-paying jobs in the USA, fueling sizzling economic growth." The five-year old startup business employs 200 Americans and ten times that number of Indians. The company has plans for hiring many more Indians to perform "tech-heavy financial services."

Under pressure from venture capitalists who fund new companies, American startup firms are starting up abroad. Thus, the new ventures, which "free trade" economists assured us would create new jobs to take the place of the ones moved offshore by mature firms, are in fact creating jobs for foreigners.

As a consequence, tech jobs in the US are falling as a percentage of the total. Clearly, tax breaks for venture capitalists are self-defeating when the result is to create jobs for foreigners, not for Americans. Why should the American taxpayer subsidize employment in India and China?

These developments have obvious adverse implications for engineering and professional education in America. The BLS jobs forecast for the next ten years says the vast majority of US jobs will not require a college education. University enrollments will decline and so will the production of PhDs as fewer professors are needed.

As India and China rise to first world status, the US falls to third world status where the only jobs are in domestic services.

This has enormous implications for the US balance of payments. Americans' consumption of manufactured goods is heavily dependent on foreign manufacture, whether that of foreign firms or that of US multinational firms that supply their American customers from offshore. How does an economy in which employment growth is concentrated in nontradable domestic services pay for its imports with exports?

Since 1990 the US has been paying for its imports by giving foreigners ownership of its assets. In the last 15 years foreigners have accumulated $3.6 trillion of America's wealth.

America has been able to pay for its consumption by giving up its wealth because the dollar is the world's reserve currency. As America's high-tech and manufacturing capabilities decline and its red ink rises, the dollar's role as reserve currency must end.

When the dollar loses its reserve currency role, America will not be able to pay for the imports on which it has become dependent. Shopping in Wal-Mart will be like shopping at Neiman Marcus.

Until recent years, US companies employed Americans to produce the goods that Americans consumed. Employment supported sales, and sales supported employment. No more. By their shortsighted policy of moving US jobs abroad, our corporations are destroying their American markets.

Economists give assurances that the dollar's decline and fall will bring jobs and industry back to the US. Once Americans are as poor as Indians and Chinese are today, the process will reverse. Multinational corporations will locate in America to take advantage of cheap labor and unserved markets. By becoming poor, the US can become rich again.

You might want to ask the economists and our "leaders" in Washington why we should put ourselves and our descendants through such a wrenching process."

--Jerry Leslie Note: les...@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bs; china; freetrade; globalism; loserblog; trade
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 341-360361-380381-400 ... 541-555 next last
To: superiorslots
"You are picking out the stupid gov. regulations."

Stupid? Reducing pollution is stupid? Isn't that the goal? Or is the unintended consequences stupid?

No, what is stupid is sending money to Washington and expecting something intelligent to happen.

My gawd man Washington is filled with government employees. You could move a small family of Llamas into the place and raise the aggregate I.Q. level by two points.

How can anything good come from a place with such inhabitants?

361 posted on 02/15/2005 1:11:09 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 348 | View Replies]

To: Havoc

Wrongo Mr. Keyboard cowboy.


362 posted on 02/15/2005 1:11:21 PM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 358 | View Replies]

To: Mad Dawgg
I am willing to live with a lot more anarchy and a lot less nanny state.

When you're overzealousness leads to treason by putting a weakened nation at risk, there I have to draw the line. The government is in a good many things - but often times because businesses won't do the right thing. Slavery is a massive example of this. And it was protested as loudly. Now that business has found it's equivelent in .37 an hour slaves in china, the fight has sprouted anew with all the same arguments and deceptions. There is nothing new under the sun and addicts will not be constrained.

363 posted on 02/15/2005 1:12:27 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 356 | View Replies]

To: jpsb
"Where do you live?"

Ohio, but we are not the only state that does so.

364 posted on 02/15/2005 1:13:21 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 353 | View Replies]

To: Protagoras

No need, I am not an Ann Rand economist, planet earth has lots of experience with unrestrained capitalism, it does not work. Unrestained capitalism leads to a society of the few very rich and the many very poor. Some means of redistrubution of wealth in a captalistic system is neccessary to have a wealthy, moral, educated and lawful nation.


365 posted on 02/15/2005 1:14:18 PM PST by jpsb
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 357 | View Replies]

To: neutrino
"...the US falls to third world status where the only jobs are in domestic services."

"Well said and true."

You actually believe America is falling to "third-world status"?! Shirley, you jest...MUD

366 posted on 02/15/2005 1:16:50 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (Decrease the Federal Expenditures as a percentage of GDP from its present 20% to 12% by 2013!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Havoc
One should have clear terms when presenting an argument.

Please define Slave.

I doubt you can do so properly.

367 posted on 02/15/2005 1:17:02 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 363 | View Replies]

To: jpsb
"Unrestained capitalism leads to a society of the few very rich and the many very poor. Some means of redistrubution of wealth in a captalistic system is neccessary to have a wealthy, moral, educated and lawful nation."

Workers of the world unite!

Join the Peoples Party!

(Busted)

368 posted on 02/15/2005 1:18:42 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 365 | View Replies]

To: jpsb
Some means of redistrubution of wealth in a captalistic system is neccessary to have a wealthy, moral, educated and lawful nation.

This gets better by the minute. You could have saved a ton of posts by just owning up to your liberal beliefs in the beginning.

I love exposing liberals on FreeRepublic.

You can be sure these posts will be reposted many times on these threads. LOL

Redistribution of wealth as a moral concept....Mr. Kerry,,is that you?

369 posted on 02/15/2005 1:18:57 PM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 365 | View Replies]

To: Protagoras
Umm, Mr "hide behind my key board" calls me a traitor, calls the free market treason, and cries like a child about name calling.

I'm not hiding behind my keyboard, want an address and some cops present.. I can oblige you. And I used a word properly without making an epithet or empty charge of it. I can fully defend it and have done so. You have demonstrably failed to do so and are rather just throwing hollow charges. When what little you offer by way of argument is destroyed and shown wrong, you name call. I'm not going to wine about it, I merely warn you that it may get you banned. I've put up with worse from better than you. While I don't have to and don't deserve it, I also agree that others don't have to put up with it and shouldn't be made to. So, as I said before, you may wish to consider taking a break before someone hits abuse. Cause you're there, pal.

370 posted on 02/15/2005 1:19:53 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 360 | View Replies]

To: Protagoras
"You can be sure these posts will be reposted many times on these threads. LOL"

How can I get a screen shot of his post. I want it for my trophy wall.

371 posted on 02/15/2005 1:20:31 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 369 | View Replies]

To: Mad Dawgg

You still haven't addressed his specific points. He says that the private-sector job market is not growing, only the government-sector job market. He says that the composition of the private sector job market is changing - - that it's more at the low end, less at the high end. Do you have statistics that refute either of these claims? As a long-time freemarketer, I really want to believe he's wrong. But he's citing statistics, and I want to see evidence that he's wrong, not mere rhetoric.


372 posted on 02/15/2005 1:24:16 PM PST by churchillbuff
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 243 | View Replies]

To: jpsb
"...planet earth has lots of experience with unrestrained capitalism, it does not work. Unrestained capitalism leads to a society of the few very rich and the many very poor. Some means of redistrubution of wealth in a captalistic system is neccessary to have a wealthy, moral, educated and lawful nation."

Balderdash and poppycock...yer making excuses fer an ever-expanding and all-powerful Federal Leviathan!!

FReegards...MUD

373 posted on 02/15/2005 1:26:20 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (Decrease the Federal Expenditures as a percentage of GDP from its present 20% to 12% by 2013!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 365 | View Replies]

To: Protagoras
Redistribution of wealth as a moral concept

No as a practical matter. It took the great Teddy Roosevelt (Republican by the way) to correct the capital system in the USA with labor and antitrust laws. So I think I am in excellent company. I would rid the USA of the progressive income tax, bust non utility monopolies, and return to tariffs/sales taxes, give labor more collective bargaining rights and then after a while fine tune the system.

374 posted on 02/15/2005 1:27:17 PM PST by jpsb
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 369 | View Replies]

To: Mad Dawgg
slave   Audio pronunciation of "slave" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (slv)
n.

   1. One bound in servitude as the property of a person or household.
   2. One who is abjectly subservient to a specified person or influence: “I was still the slave of education and prejudice” (Edward Gibbon).
   3. One who works extremely hard.
   4. A machine or component controlled by another machine or component.


intr.v. slaved, slav·ing, slaves

Companies in China, lest we forget, are paying the chinese government who then turns around and doles out a part of the money to the workers. Slaves. We call it slavery, sweatshop labor, etc. The chains here are the wages and conditions. When you're paying less for a body than it would cost to maintain them as slaves, you're dealing in slaves. Call it what you like, if the end result is the same, you've gained nothing with terminology.

Now, that said, you're dealing with the modern equivelant of slavery. Dirt cheap (literally) wages. I can't buy a 1 pound bag of top soil in this country for what they're paying for two hours of labor in China. Yet, you want us to compete against that knowing it is wage rate dumping and has been illegal in this country for decades. Now that we throw about terminology, we're supposed to excuse it when you go to another country and tacitly do what's illegal here and pretend it's ok because you're making monstrous profits while subverting our economy?!

Yes, we should define our terms. Shouldn't we. Because when we paint the picture, it really enrages America even more.

375 posted on 02/15/2005 1:28:35 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 367 | View Replies]

To: Mudboy Slim

You know better then that, see my 374.


376 posted on 02/15/2005 1:28:45 PM PST by jpsb
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 373 | View Replies]

To: Protagoras

protagorass

Does not some redistribution create a middle class whereby they can buy your goods or services??
Capitalism was probbaly the most "free" as you call it in the late 1800's/early 1900's. I also read where people worked7 days a week, 16 hour days with no discretionary income whatsover during those time periods. Kids as young as 10 worked also. Whatever they made went 100% for food or heat or housing.

I've also seen the '50's(for example) when there was some discretionary income because of wealth redistribution(as you call it) and people seemed pretty happy and this was when the "consumerism" started in the country. That is a good thing.

Sorry but I would rather live in the '50's anyday.

BTW: You would have made a great robber baron.



377 posted on 02/15/2005 1:29:44 PM PST by superiorslots
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 369 | View Replies]

To: Mudboy Slim

"...yer making excuses fer an ever-expanding and all-powerful Federal Leviathan!!

FReegards...MUD


Go Mudboy!


378 posted on 02/15/2005 1:33:20 PM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 373 | View Replies]

To: Havoc
You call me a traitor from behind a keyboard. You have done it repeatedly. Go call the mods to protect you.

So, as I said before, you may wish to consider taking a break before someone hits abuse. Cause you're there, pal.

The only someone is you. .

My pals don't call me a traitor from the safety of their homes while hiding on the internet.

But I know what your scam is, It's to get the mods to wipe out this whole thread so no one will see what you have done here.

Flame wars are against posting guidelines, And by you coming onto this thread and calling people who disagree with you traitors and accusing them of treason is precisely what causes them.

PS, we ain't pals.

379 posted on 02/15/2005 1:37:18 PM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 370 | View Replies]

To: international american; Mudboy Slim
Capitalism only works then individual rights are defending by government that has adopted the capitalist economic system. Allowing COMMUNITST China to reap the benefits of the capitalist US market WITHOUT adopting the concept of individual rights and collective bargaining rights for it workers is a SELLOUT of the capitalist system.

yall can bump and high five all you want, but you are KILLING the USA with your unrestrained greed.

380 posted on 02/15/2005 1:42:11 PM PST by jpsb
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 378 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 341-360361-380381-400 ... 541-555 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson