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The Great American Job Sellout
google groups ^ | feb 2005 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 02/15/2005 6:44:11 AM PST by dennisw

"The Great American Job Sellout By Paul Craig Roberts

Americans are being sold out on the jobs front. Americans' employment opportunities are declining as a result of corporate outsourcing of US jobs, H-1B visas that import foreigners to displace Americans in their own country, and federal guest worker programs

President Bush and his Republican majority intend to legalize the aliens who hold down wages for construction companies and cleaning services. In order to stretch budgets, state and local governments bring in lower paid foreign nurses and school teachers. To reduce costs, US corporations outsource jobs abroad and use work visa programs to import foreign engineers and programmers. The American job give away is explained by a "shortage" of Americans to take the jobs.

There are not too many Americans willing to accept the pay and working conditions of migrant farm workers. However, the US is bursting at the seams with unemployed computer engineers and well-educated professionals who are displaced by outsourcing and H-1B visas. During Bush's entire first term, there was a net loss of American private sector jobs. Today there are 760,000 fewer private sector jobs in the US economy than when Bush was first inaugurated in January 2001.

For years the hallmark of the European economy was its inability to create any jobs other than government jobs. America has caught up with Europe. During Bush's first term, state and local government created 879,000 new government jobs. Offsetting these government jobs against the net loss in private sector jobs gives Bush a four-year jobs growth of 119,000 government jobs. Comparing this pathetic result to normal performance produces a shortage of 8 million US jobs. What happened to these jobs?

Over these same four years the composition of US jobs has changed from higher-paid manufacturing and information technology jobs to lower-paid domestic services. Why?

During this extraordinary breakdown in the American employment machine, politicians, government officials, corporate spokespersons, and "free trade" economists gave assurances that America was benefitting greatly from the work visa programs and outsourcing.

The mindless chatter continues. Just the other day Ambassador David Gross, US Coordinator for International Communications and Information Policy in the State Department, declared outsourcing to be an economic efficiency that works to America's benefit. There is no sign of this alleged benefit in US jobs statistics or the US balance of trade.

Repeatedly and incorrectly, US corporations state that outsourcing creates more US jobs. They even convinced a New York Times columnist that this was the case.

The problem is, no one can identify where the US jobs are that outsourcing allegedly creates. They are certainly not to be found in the BLS jobs statistics. However, the Indian and Chinese jobs created by US outsourcing are highly visible.

On February 13, the Dayton (Ohio) Daily News reported that jobs outsourcing is transforming Indian "cities like Bangalore from sleepy little backwaters into the New York Cities of Asia." In a very short period outsourcing has helped to raise India from one of the world's poorest countries to its seventh largest economy.

Outsourcing proponents claim that US job loss is being exaggerated, that outsourcing is really just a small thing involving a few call centers. If that is the case, how is it transforming sleepy Indian cities into "the New York Cities of Asia"? If outsourcing is no big deal, why are Bangalore hotel rooms "packed with foreigners paying rates higher than in Tokyo or London," as the Dayton Daily News reports?

If outsourcing is of no real consequence, why are American lawyers or their clients paying $2,900 in fees plus hotel and travel expenses and two days' billings to attend the Fourth National Conference on Outsourcing in Financial Services in Washington DC (April 20-21)?

On the jobs front, as on the war front, the social security front and every other front, Americans are not being given the truth. Americans' news comes from people allied with the Bush administration or dependent on revenues from corporate advertisers. Displease the government or advertisers and your media empire is in trouble. The news most Americans get is filtered. It is the permitted news. Many "free trade" advocates also are dependent on the corporate money that funds their salaries, research and think tanks.

Another clear indication that outsourcing of US jobs is no small thing comes from the reported earnings of the leading Indian corporations that provide American firms with outsourced IT employees and engineers. During the recent quarter, Infosys' revenues increased by 53%, TCS grew by 38%, and Wipro was up 34%.

On January 1, 2001, Cincinnati-based Convergys Corp had one Indian employee. Today it has 10,000. Why? Because it can hire Indian university graduates for $240 a month, a sum that is a small fraction of the US poverty level income.

Many Americans think that an outsourced job is an existing job that is moved offshore. But many outsourced jobs are created offshore in the first place. On February 11, USA Today told the story of OfficeTiger, "the sort of young technology company that once created thousands of high-paying jobs in the USA, fueling sizzling economic growth." The five-year old startup business employs 200 Americans and ten times that number of Indians. The company has plans for hiring many more Indians to perform "tech-heavy financial services."

Under pressure from venture capitalists who fund new companies, American startup firms are starting up abroad. Thus, the new ventures, which "free trade" economists assured us would create new jobs to take the place of the ones moved offshore by mature firms, are in fact creating jobs for foreigners.

As a consequence, tech jobs in the US are falling as a percentage of the total. Clearly, tax breaks for venture capitalists are self-defeating when the result is to create jobs for foreigners, not for Americans. Why should the American taxpayer subsidize employment in India and China?

These developments have obvious adverse implications for engineering and professional education in America. The BLS jobs forecast for the next ten years says the vast majority of US jobs will not require a college education. University enrollments will decline and so will the production of PhDs as fewer professors are needed.

As India and China rise to first world status, the US falls to third world status where the only jobs are in domestic services.

This has enormous implications for the US balance of payments. Americans' consumption of manufactured goods is heavily dependent on foreign manufacture, whether that of foreign firms or that of US multinational firms that supply their American customers from offshore. How does an economy in which employment growth is concentrated in nontradable domestic services pay for its imports with exports?

Since 1990 the US has been paying for its imports by giving foreigners ownership of its assets. In the last 15 years foreigners have accumulated $3.6 trillion of America's wealth.

America has been able to pay for its consumption by giving up its wealth because the dollar is the world's reserve currency. As America's high-tech and manufacturing capabilities decline and its red ink rises, the dollar's role as reserve currency must end.

When the dollar loses its reserve currency role, America will not be able to pay for the imports on which it has become dependent. Shopping in Wal-Mart will be like shopping at Neiman Marcus.

Until recent years, US companies employed Americans to produce the goods that Americans consumed. Employment supported sales, and sales supported employment. No more. By their shortsighted policy of moving US jobs abroad, our corporations are destroying their American markets.

Economists give assurances that the dollar's decline and fall will bring jobs and industry back to the US. Once Americans are as poor as Indians and Chinese are today, the process will reverse. Multinational corporations will locate in America to take advantage of cheap labor and unserved markets. By becoming poor, the US can become rich again.

You might want to ask the economists and our "leaders" in Washington why we should put ourselves and our descendants through such a wrenching process."

--Jerry Leslie Note: les...@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bs; china; freetrade; globalism; loserblog; trade
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Can I be so forward as to ask what state you are located in? (Job hunting right now, as a matter of fact)


161 posted on 02/15/2005 9:24:06 AM PST by lilmsdangrus (hard work musta hurt somebody, somewhere....)
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To: Protagoras

Your whole premise that the current economy is just capitalism at work is false. Try to read the post.


162 posted on 02/15/2005 9:24:08 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Conspiracy Guy
This has been an interesting thread. I have never been to Alabama but I was curious about prevailing wages and such after reading  a few of your comments..

I was surprised at a lot of things which I saw on the Careerbuilder site for recent Grads/Entry level jobs. The Technical apprentice job for 50K was surprising, no degree or certificate required.

 Y'all been keeping secrets from us Yankees.

163 posted on 02/15/2005 9:24:10 AM PST by Radix (This country needs a seriously good buggy whip government subsidy program.)
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To: Age of Reason

Pay hasn't been the issue. I could Shanghai a few from competitors but I don't believe in it. The candidates I'm getting are minimum wagers and we don't have any minimum wage positions.


164 posted on 02/15/2005 9:25:02 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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To: Protagoras
Well then do not post your particulars, and I will not ask questions about your particulars.

You by the way are the most annoying sort of person. Things apparently, are going well for you, so the country, the economy, the citizens can all be damned as long as you get yours. I am happy do not know you.

165 posted on 02/15/2005 9:25:28 AM PST by jpsb
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To: hedgetrimmer
I never made that premise.

Try to read the post.

I fall asleep when reading wordy cut and paste stuff.

166 posted on 02/15/2005 9:26:02 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: mississippi red-neck

Please read on down. I've answered all that down thread.


167 posted on 02/15/2005 9:26:35 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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To: lilmsdangrus

Oops, didn't see your post before I posted, I see you are in Alabama.


168 posted on 02/15/2005 9:26:37 AM PST by lilmsdangrus (hard work musta hurt somebody, somewhere....)
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To: Protagoras

A fisherman is only as prosperous as the number of fish he can catch.

A boss is only as big a boss as the number of employees he can attract.

If you run out of resources, then you've run out of resources.

If a fisherman thinks there's more fish to catch in India, then let him move to India.

And if you think there are more employees in India, then move your business to India.


169 posted on 02/15/2005 9:26:53 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Conspiracy Guy
I work for foreigners, bringing foreign money into the states. But of course once I talk all the American companies into outsourcing their IT departments to this nameless foreign company I won't have any more technical work to do. Oh well, then maybe I can concentrate on my true love, Indian style woodworking.


170 posted on 02/15/2005 9:27:12 AM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: Conspiracy Guy
The candidates I'm getting are minimum wagers and we don't have any minimum wage positions.

Maybe you should open a cleaning service.

If all you have are lemons, try making lemonade.

171 posted on 02/15/2005 9:28:54 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: cp124

I believe it will halt and turn around. If not I will deal with it. The Lord giveth and the Government taketh away. They can't have my soul so I'll get by. In the meantime I continue to fight where I think it makes a difference.


172 posted on 02/15/2005 9:29:27 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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To: cp124

Keep reading. It is all down thread.


173 posted on 02/15/2005 9:30:47 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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To: jpsb
Well then do not post your particulars, and I will not ask questions about your particulars.

I didn't, so don't.

You by the way are the most annoying sort of person.

Thank you. I love to annoy pretend conservatives.

Things apparently, are going well for you, so the country, the economy, the citizens can all be damned as long as you get yours.

You don't know any of that stuff. So you live in a fantasy world.

I am happy do not know you.

Me too. I don't suffer fools gladly so we wouldn't get along very well.

174 posted on 02/15/2005 9:31:51 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
one left to build houses, and two got lured to another company.

Sounds to me like these employees were trying to increase their profit margin.

Maybe if the company would have offered them more money they would have stayed.

175 posted on 02/15/2005 9:32:10 AM PST by mississippi red-neck
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To: quack
"They want their landscape manicured and taken care of,but don't have time...."

Pay attention all tyour protectionists: You mean some other guy in your area specialized in a certain type of business made a profit and had excess capital so he invested it in products and/or services he deemed he needed that he did not have time to make/do himself thus giving birth to another specialized business which in turn will turn a profit allowing you to invest your excess capital in specialized services/products you do not have time to make or do?

Gawd, someone ought to write this all down.

Paging Mr. Smith, Paging Mr. Adam Smith...

Please pick up the white courtesy phone, your theory is working.

176 posted on 02/15/2005 9:32:11 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Age of Reason

What kind of nonsense hogwash union BS are you pushing. MONEY IS NOT AN ISSUE.


177 posted on 02/15/2005 9:32:53 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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To: Age of Reason
Thanks, that is really deep.

If he moves his business to India, won't he be a traitor?

If a person is unqualified, will he be automatically qualified if he gets more money?

178 posted on 02/15/2005 9:34:33 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: Protagoras
I fall asleep when reading wordy cut and paste stuff.

So when someone actually substaniates their post with information, it bores you?
179 posted on 02/15/2005 9:35:03 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: jpsb

Keep reading. I really didn't get on the thread to post jobs. I said it was anecdotal evidence in the beginning and you're questions are answered down thread.

BTW if I say I have a carwash that pays more than all my competitors, that is a relevent statement. I'm not in the carwash business and I am not the owner.


180 posted on 02/15/2005 9:36:15 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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