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Lawmaker offers $5,000 on man-woman marriage
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Feb. 12, 2005

Posted on 02/12/2005 1:00:23 PM PST by CitizenM

Democrat putting up cash, saying Bible not clear on union of sexes

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bible; gay; homosexualagenda; liberals; marriage; samesexmarriage; stunt; wrongforum
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To: dcnd9
"Somebody brought that up and he still said it's just a term. How they feel was more important...if one thinks they are wife/woman and the other husband/man that's okay."

Words have meanings, not "feelings". I wonder how he will "feel" when he is introduced to a lake of fire?

"No answer will suffice him. He's just stiring the pro-same sex marriage pot!"

I know, but he still owes me 5 G's.

: )
61 posted on 02/12/2005 2:25:10 PM PST by DocRock
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To: CitizenM

Woul he like this in the original languages? (ie greek?)

This way he can't play games with the transaltion.

The point is not whether he will pay, every one knows this democrat has no intention of paying. However the mere offer will be bootstrap cited repeatedly.

It is big lie theory in action.


62 posted on 02/12/2005 2:25:27 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: DocRock

actually people should start sending him CERTIFIED MAIL return reciept mail so he can't deny recieving it.

This is about orwellian translating to adjust to his personal homosexual leanings.


63 posted on 02/12/2005 2:27:41 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: econ_grad
I know nothing about the Bible, but would appreciate if anyone can look up the original Greek versions of those passages.

The marriage at Cana was a real event, and took place long before the Middle Ages. The Greek word signifying that marriage is "gamos", the root word for "gamete" (reproductive cell) and such words as monogamy (and all the other kinds of -gamy, for that matter). The idea should arise then, that, as used in the New Testament, marriage referred to a union between a man and a woman, since that is the only procreative union possible.

64 posted on 02/12/2005 2:28:15 PM PST by Migraine
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To: FairOpinion
The Bible is full of passages talking about how sex between same sex people is sinful

And marriage is full of women talking about how sex, any sex, is totally out of the question. ;-)



65 posted on 02/12/2005 2:34:22 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Sonny M

Nah; When was the last time you got money from a democrat?


66 posted on 02/12/2005 2:44:28 PM PST by Incandesia (Please don't eat the Newbie)
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To: Incandesia
He's not going to pay, no matter what happens. Someone should take it to court.

Yes. If he refuses to pay, why not?

If nothing else, I think it'd be a great medium and irritate many lefties to have a case over biblical evidence being presented in a courtroom. ;-)

67 posted on 02/12/2005 2:44:57 PM PST by Zack Attack
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To: jwalsh07

I know how to read. Find out a passage in the Bible which says that a man cannot marry another man. In fact, find me passages that talk about marriage at all. The Bible also condones other forms of marriages which are frowned upon in our society, like polygamy.


68 posted on 02/12/2005 3:11:13 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: Incandesia
When was the last time you got money from a democrat?

If I ever become a crackhead, I'm pretty sure a democrat will give me somone elses money.

69 posted on 02/12/2005 3:16:01 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Reaganesque

True, it forbids homosexual sex, but what does the Bible say about marriage? The Bible does say "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's." That probably means that the civil laws of a country can be different from God's laws. What is in question here is should Caesar allow homosexual marriage?

I used to think differently about homosexuals because I didn't know any. But, when I moved to an urban area, I got to meet a lot of them and my views about them changed a lot. If they want to be married and be miserable, let them be.


70 posted on 02/12/2005 3:17:04 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: econ_grad
I know how to read.

Perhaps but you don't seem to comprehend very well.

The Bible doesn't procribe the rape of small babies explicitly either. But any sensible reading of the Bible makes clear that raping babies is proscribed.

71 posted on 02/12/2005 3:22:54 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Sonny M
True; true.

However, this guy's "offering" money from his own pocket, which tells us right off that he won't be reasoned with. Maybe they could get that kid that asked for Culpepper's diamonds to confront this guy; What good Democrat would be able to resist the photo op, even for gay rights?

72 posted on 02/12/2005 3:25:57 PM PST by Incandesia (Please don't eat the Newbie)
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To: jwalsh07

You are changing the subject. The Bible doesn't talk about marriage at all. This is a matter of civil laws, not ecclesiastical. Should govt discriminate against homosexuals from marrying each other? The answer to that question is not in the Bible, my friend.


73 posted on 02/12/2005 3:28:28 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: jwalsh07

What about polygamy? It is clearly condoned by the Bible. If it is good enough for Abraham, it is good enough for me. Should govt be allowed to ban polygamy even though it is sanctioned by God?


74 posted on 02/12/2005 3:29:56 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: CitizenM

This dude can't be reasoned with.A lady gave him a Bible with the passages highlighted and he still ....is an idiot.Down here in South Alabama the 'D' stands for DipStick.He's a Loser


75 posted on 02/12/2005 3:31:04 PM PST by southronbtgoG (GRITS-----what more can you say......DEO-VINDICE)
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To: CitizenM

Think he has a permit to operate a game of chance?


76 posted on 02/12/2005 4:05:07 PM PST by Shanty Shaker ( WAS BECAUSE)
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To: econ_grad
You are changing the subject.

Not really, I am only offering you an analogy. You can reject if you'd like but that would simply be more evidence of cognitive dissonance. The Bible is quite clear on marriage, you simply refuse to accept it.

The Bible doesn't talk about marriage at all.

Simply not true. Marriage is the joining of one man and one woman with the Biblical purpose of procreation. That you argue that point is actually quite amazing to me.

This is a matter of civil laws, not ecclesiastical.

Then argue the Constitution. I'd be happy to engage you there as well.

Should govt discriminate against homosexuals from marrying each other?

Government doesn't discriminate in the institution of marriage. Any citizen of age and properly removed genetically can marry any member of the opposite sex.

The answer to that question is not in the Bible, my friend.

Right, it's in the Constituion. Care to debate that?

77 posted on 02/12/2005 4:24:51 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Marriage is the joining of one man and one woman with the Biblical purpose of procreation.

The first part of your sentence is true by fiat. Marriage does not exist in nature. It is purely a function of humans who organize into civil society. Any connection drawn to the Divine is purely ex post. The second part clearly doesn't depend on the first part. I am not even sure if the second part of your statement is factually correct. People have been procreating long before the Bible was written, so it cannot be something that is unique to Christians. You are in no shape to call on my dissonance.

The Constitution also makes no reference to marriage, and in fact the ninth and tenth Amendments leave it up to the state. The federal govt has no jurisdiction over such things. The debate should be whether federal govt can stop homosexuals from marrying each other. No one is forcing the Catholic Church to recognize homosexual marriages. The point is whether CA or NY can recognize a marriage between two or more adults who enter voluntarily into a contract. Christianity does not forbid homosexual marriage, and even if it did it is a moot point.

78 posted on 02/12/2005 4:53:41 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: CitizenM

INTREP - Why not have him show us where same-sex marriage is natural and acceptable to God?


79 posted on 02/12/2005 5:18:42 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America is happening)
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To: econ_grad

actually the platapus mates for life. Does that count?


80 posted on 02/12/2005 5:19:36 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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