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Forensic Scientists reveal what Jesus may have looked like as a 12-year old
Catholic News Agency ^
| February 12, 2005
Posted on 02/12/2005 11:59:27 AM PST by NYer
Rome, Feb. 11, 2005 (CNA) - Forensic scientists in Italy are working on a different kind of investigationone that dates back 2000 years.
In an astounding announcement, the scientists think they may have re-created an image of Jesus Christ when He was a 12-year old boy.
Using the Shroud of Turin, a centuries-old linen cloth, which many believe bears the face of the crucified Christ, the investigators first created a computer-modeled, composite picture of the Christs face.
Dr. Carlo Bui, one of the scientists said that, the face of the man on the shroud is the face of a suffering man. He has a deeply ruined nose. It was certainly struck."
Then, using techniques usually reserved for investigating missing persons, they back dated the image to create the closest thing many will ever see to a photograph of the young Christ.
Without a doubt, the eyes... That is, the deepness of the eyes, the central part of the face in its complexity, said forensic scientist Andrea Amore, one of the chief investigators who made the discovery.
The shroud itself, a 14-foot long by 3.5-foot wide woven cloth believed by many to be the burial shroud of Jesus, is receiving renewed attention lately.
A Los Alamos, New Mexico scientist has recently cast grave doubt that the carbon dating originally used to date the shroud was valid. This would suggest that the shroud may in fact be 2000 years old after all, placing it precisely in the period of Christs crucifixion.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: christ; christchild; forensic; godsgravesglyphs; holycrap; jesus; medievalhoax; pantocrator; science; shroud; shroudofturin; sudariumofoviedo; veronicaveil; wrongforum
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posted on
02/12/2005 11:59:29 AM PST
by
NYer
To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
It is widely accepted that the Christ Pantocrator image is that of Christ.
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posted on
02/12/2005 12:01:52 PM PST
by
NYer
("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
To: Kolokotronis; Destro; MarMema; Agrarian
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posted on
02/12/2005 12:02:53 PM PST
by
NYer
("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
To: shroudie; Swordmaker
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posted on
02/12/2005 12:03:25 PM PST
by
NYer
("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
To: NYer
What a beautiful image but the eyes look so sad.
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posted on
02/12/2005 12:05:37 PM PST
by
BMC1
To: BMC1
I thought the same thing.
To: NYer
There are hundreds of images of "Christ Pantocrator." It is simply not enough to say that "Christ Pantocrator" is the image of Christ. You have to point to a specific version by that name. I see the one you have posted. What is its orgin and time?
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posted on
02/12/2005 12:09:45 PM PST
by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: NYer
He had a beautiful, lovely face.
To: NYer
Thanks for this post. I find the original recreation from the shroud fascinating, also.
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posted on
02/12/2005 12:13:56 PM PST
by
Richard Kimball
(It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
To: peyton randolph
There is no corpse. He's alive.
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posted on
02/12/2005 12:14:49 PM PST
by
Richard Kimball
(It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
To: NYer
To: MineralMan
I believe the image in post #2 is from the Haghia Sofia in Istanbul (formerly Constantinople) which used to be the capital of the Eastern Roman Empire. Haghia Sofia was the HQ for the Eastern Orthodox Church for centuries. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. There were similar mosaics I saw in another church in Istanbul called the Khora church? Anyway, it was 16 years ago and I wasn't paying much attention to churches when I was 19 and in the Army.
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posted on
02/12/2005 12:18:09 PM PST
by
Tailback
To: NYer
This is REALLY pushing the envelope.
MANY believe this shroud is a fraud. To suggest that even if it wasn't a fraud that it was Jesus is beyond probability. Even if the shroud is legitimate, how can anyone wilt credibility claim it was Christ? They can't.
It really shouldn't matter what Jesus looked like. One of the reasons I don't believe it is real is His own image is because of "graven images" NOT being allowed.
Exod.20:4
[4] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Lev.26:1
[1] Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.
Deut.4:16
[16] Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,
[23] Take heed unto yourselves, lest ye forget the covenant of the LORD your God, which he made with you, and make you a graven image, or the likeness of any thing, which the LORD thy God hath forbidden thee.
Deut.5:8
[8] Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
There are tons of verses on this in the Bible - that is if what HE says matters to you. It's most unlikely that He would allow a graven image on HIMSELF to be left behind when He is so opposed to it.
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posted on
02/12/2005 12:19:37 PM PST
by
nmh
(Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
To: peyton randolph; NYer
His corpse was "reanimated" after 3 days and remains alive and well. Since He's Glorified, He doesn't suffer aging, disease, pain, etc. However, He can still enjoy eating food (reference the fish meal when he revisited the Apostles on the beach).
I'm sure you're just being funny with the humorous picture. Perhaps you should mention "sarcasm" after such a post to avoid the ozone smell.
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posted on
02/12/2005 12:20:13 PM PST
by
SaltyJoe
("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
To: Tailback
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posted on
02/12/2005 12:20:34 PM PST
by
BMC1
To: MineralMan
What is its orgin and time? This one is from the Hagia Sophia.
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posted on
02/12/2005 12:23:06 PM PST
by
NYer
("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
To: peyton randolph
HIS "corpse" has already been re-animated - and the angels rolled away the stone so he could leave the tomb. If HE had been only a spirit - the stone would not need to be removed.
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posted on
02/12/2005 12:24:37 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
(Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
To: Tailback
I believe the image in post #2 is from the Haghia Sofia in Istanbul You are correct!
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posted on
02/12/2005 12:25:11 PM PST
by
NYer
("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
To: peyton randolph
I like your imagination, but his corpse didn't see corruption. It rose from the dead, ascended into heaven, and will return. See Revelation chap. 1 for a scriptural decription of what he will look like (eyes like a flame of fire, etc.)
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posted on
02/12/2005 12:26:44 PM PST
by
Zuriel
(Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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