[Elkiejg]

GO OLLIE!! Note to Mr. Jordan: "If" your statements were true, there would be NO journalist left in Iraq. Think about that Mr. Jordan.

[Former Military Chick]

I was just about to post this thread. Indeed Ollie has a lot of GREAT things to say!

[backhoe]

 

 Eason's Fables-- the sordid Jordan Story

 

[kcvl]

Release the tape if you have nothing to hide, Jordan!

[MEG33]

Great Ollie..Right on!

RELEASE THE TAPE!

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[kitkat]

......................RELEASE THE TAPE, JORDON..............................

[.45MAN]

If the statements are true than Jordan should be in hiding..

[ViLaLuz]

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[Jet Jaguar]

The pamphleteers.

[Heuristic Hiker]

One of the most prominent philosophies of the "science" of modern history is "post modernism." I’ve been struck by how this philosophy has tinted the view of the conflict in Iraq and now the elections have been viewed by the rest of the world.

It has been a depressing time for liberals and post modernists in general.

On the issue of Press coverage in Iraq, yes, American journalists could be expected to emphasize different things about Iraq than say a newspaper in Jordan....but both stories should be based on the same "facts." Like the fact that American forces went into Iraq at a certain date, that a certain battle happen at a particular place or a certain number of people were killed or injured. The reasons for what is happening can be debated but the "facts" should not be.

Postmodernists in general, would suggest that the American and Jordan newspapers should not even be able to agree on things like places and the times of events in Iraq. I think this is a position that verges on anarchism. There are things that both sides can agree are "facts."

But the story of another Jordan....Eason Jordan would suggest that post modernism complicates the issue of the debate over "facts" even more than that between Arab and American. His are unsubstantiated allegations about crimes allegedly committed by members of the American military against journalists.

One of the cardinal tenets of post modernism is its claim of “moral relativity.” That in fact there is no moral standard. From my perspective, one of the prime motivations for Jordan’s allegations at the Davos conference was to “knock” the U.S. morality down a notch or two…and who really needs “facts” to do this when one is a post modernist.

[RushLake]

I bet this Josef Goebbels wannabe would have blamed Ernie Pyle's death on the Marines if he'd been around back then.

He should be ready to document the details of each death if he has them and have no problem making that information available to the public.

[sure_fine]

ping a jurnalist

[wayoverontheright]

David Gergen, editor-at-large for U.S. News & World Report and moderator of the discussion in Davos, now says Jordan had recently been to Iraq, and was "caught up in the tension of the moment" and "deserves the benefit of the doubt."

Why? He didn't give our soldiers the benefit of any doubt.

[stevem]

David Gergen, editor-at-large for U.S. News & World Report and moderator of the discussion in Davos, now says Jordan had recently been to Iraq, and was "caught up in the tension of the moment" and "deserves the benefit of the doubt."

I have no idea what this means. Is it any wonder a clown like Gergen would go to bat for bill clinton? What "benefit" of what "doubt?"

I can see how a discussion with a bunch of other journalists can be so tense that it would cause a "leader" in journalism to make up something this explosive.

[trebb]

. . . Jordan had recently been to Iraq, and was "caught up in the tension of the moment" and "deserves the benefit of the doubt.

That attitude is designed to cover (up) a multitude of sins...

[trebb]

Barney Frank claims he contacted Jordan and demanded "specifics." Frank said he would pursue the issue if there were credible evidence. At this writing, Jordan has yet to take the congressman up on his offer.

But, if it is proven a lie, the Senator will be oh-so-happy to let it slide...

[SeaBiscuit]

Go get'em Ollie!!

[oh8eleven]

These e-mailing, Web-surfing, call-'em as you see-'em bloggers are the electronic equivalent of the pamphleteers who brought about our revolution.
Thomas Paine lives!

[arasina]

There is a lesson in all of this, and not just for CNN, but for all the media. Jordan's disparaging duplicity wasn't exposed by the barons of broadcasting or the potentates of print, but by "amateurs" -- bloggers -- the same "unwashed masses" who brought down Dan Rather. These e-mailing, Web-surfing, call-'em as you see-'em bloggers are the electronic equivalent of the pamphleteers who brought about our revolution.

Terrific piece! I love the historical analogy he gives here. You're one of us, aren't you, Ollie.

[GVnana]

why should any member of the media in attendance be let off the hook for failing to immediately jump up and demand: "Prove it!" when Jordan made his unsubstantiated charges?

By their actions (or inactions) you will know them.