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Homeland chief to 'waive all laws'?
worldnetdaily.com ^ | February 10, 2005 | worldnetdaily

Posted on 02/09/2005 11:21:04 PM PST by ovrtaxt

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ON CAPITOL HILL

Homeland chief
to 'waive all laws'?

Security provision in REAL ID Act
gives feds broad powers at border


Posted: February 10, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com


Opposition to a homeland-security bill brought to the floor of Congress yesterday largely has centered on fears it would lead to a national ID, but some critics point to an overlooked section that apparently gives the White House sweeping powers to suspend laws for the purpose of protecting U.S. borders.

Section 102 of the REAL ID Act of 2005 seeks to expedite the building of a three-mile fence at the border near San Diego to staunch the flood of illegal aliens that travel through an area known as "smuggler's gulch."

Environmental laws have been the project's chief roadblock, but the bill's language appears to provide an unlimited scope, reading, "Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall have the authority to waive, and shall waive, all laws such Secretary, in such Secretary's sole discretion, determines necessary to ensure expeditious construction of the barriers and roads under this section."

Significantly, it also says courts are prohibited from reviewing the secretary's decision.

A spokesman for Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif. -- a supporter of the bill whose district includes the border area -- said he could not comment on the scope of the measure's language. But he emphasized the need to construct the barrier as soon as possible to shut down a potential entry point by terrorists.

"There is an urgent priority to finish it," said Joe Kasper. "For several years, we've been going back and forth with the California Coastal Commission to finish up this border fence, with little success."

But Jim Harper, a former judiciary committee staffer who now serves as director of information policy studies for the libertarian Cato Institute in Washington, believes the way the bill is written does not limit the secretary's powers to removing environmental impediments.

"Taking judicial review away is quite dramatic," he told WND. "The secretary, under a strict reading, could waive any law and conceivably detain people, wiretap -- the list would go on and on of the laws that could be waived."

Harper said he objects to the bill being run through so quickly, which limits participation in the process to only the most aggressive players in Congress.

"It's really difficult to write legislation well," he said, "which is the reason we have a slow, deliberative process. Here we are not having that process, and the result is shoddily written legislation."

Kasper acknowledged the language is broad.

"But one thing we need to remember is, we are looking within the limits of the secretary of Homeland Security, what he deems necessary to finish fences and roads for the sake of national security," Kasper said.

To Americans who want assurance their civil liberties will not be eroded, he said: "The real assurance is in the safety [the bill] will provide, especially in relation to this border fence that will [block] terrorists trying to penetrate our border."

The section of the proposed legislation reads:

SEC. 102. WAIVER OF LAWS NECESSARY FOR IMPROVEMENT OF BARRIERS AT BORDERS.

Section 102(c) of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (8 U.S.C. 1103 note) is amended to read as follows:

(c) Waiver-

(1) IN GENERAL- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall have the authority to waive, and shall waive, all laws such Secretary, in such Secretary's sole discretion, determines necessary to ensure expeditious construction of the barriers and roads under this section.

(2) NO JUDICIAL REVIEW- Notwithstanding any other provision of law (statutory or nonstatutory), no court shall have jurisdiction--

(A) to hear any cause or claim arising from any action undertaken, or any decision made, by the Secretary of Homeland Security pursuant to paragraph (1); or

(B) to order compensatory, declaratory, injunctive, equitable, or any other relief for damage alleged to arise from any such action or decision.

The bill's chief sponsor, Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisc., says the main purpose is to "prevent another 9-11 attack by disrupting terrorist travel."

Cosponsored with at least 115 House members, in addition to the fence, it aims to reform elements of the system manipulated by terrorists, requiring states to establish uniform rules for granting temporary driver's licenses to foreign visitors and tightening asylum procedures.

Jeff Deist, spokesman for Rep. Ron Paul -- a Texas Republican who regularly raises civil-liberties concerns during the formation of security related policy -- said his staff is getting a first look at the sections related to the fence, but "on face value, as written, it's exceedingly broad."

"The ostensible purpose is to allow the Homeland Security secretary to operate in that one area -- but 'all laws'? Would that include the Posse Comitatus Act?" he asked, referring to the measure passed in 1878 that bars the Army, and now the Air Force also, from executing laws except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress.

Paul contends that despite Sensenbrenners' denials, the REAL ID Act moves the country toward creation of a national ID card.

A group called Defenders of Wildlife said it believes that although Sensenbrenner repeatedly has described H.R. 418 as limited only to the San Diego project, it likely would enable the secretary to waive all laws applying to the nearly 7,500 miles of border with Mexico and Canada.

Rodger Schlickeisen, president of the group, called the section "extreme and unnecessary."

Hunter's spokesman Kasper said he could not address the question of whether the law would apply beyond the San Diego area and referred WND to the House Judiciary Committee. But a staffer for the committee already had referred WND to Hunter's office for questions about that part of the bill.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderfence; bordersecurity; dhs; hr418; immigration; nationalid; privacy; realidact; sandiego
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To: DoughtyOne

That's my understanding, but don't take my word for it. I didn't even know about the congress limiting the courts!


21 posted on 02/10/2005 12:02:55 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Go Howard Go!)
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To: ovrtaxt

On some aspects that might be preferable. On other aspects that might actually be frightening.


22 posted on 02/10/2005 12:04:15 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree with you, and here's another tightrope the GOP is walking: The Patriot Act with a Reno-style AG.

I don't even want to think about that possibility.


23 posted on 02/10/2005 12:05:30 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Go Howard Go!)
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To: ovrtaxt

I got an email today that talked about a report on CNN that had to do with internal checkpoints.


It was really frightening stuff.

They can pass all the laws they want about "Homeland Security". (I guess now they prefer the term "Home Front Security")

The problem is that 99 percent of the folks who ever get harrassed won't be foreigners, or Mexicans, or terrorists, it'll end up being the guy next door.

Bet on it.


24 posted on 02/10/2005 12:08:12 AM PST by djf
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To: djf

Just look at the average airport terminal. We wouldn't want to be 'discriminatory', right?


25 posted on 02/10/2005 12:10:20 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Go Howard Go!)
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To: ovrtaxt

When we think of these bills we simply must think about Clinton, Lanny Davis, Anne Lewis, James Carville, Vernon Jordan, Monica Blewhimsky, Reno, Web Hubble, Hillary Clinton...

It is also advisable to think of the FBI and BATF. We've already seen what they are capable of. Imagine them on steroids with these new laws. It was scarey enough before these laws.


26 posted on 02/10/2005 12:14:45 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Well, I'd like to think that if they started just arresting people and not giving them trials, that the average American would have somewhat of a bad opinion about that.

But it's too late. They're way more worried about social security. About whether they are safe from the local pedophile. About what's happening in the stock market, what Trump is gonna do on "The Apprentice", hell, they're more worried about the next episode of "Will and Grace"

We've lost.


27 posted on 02/10/2005 12:19:47 AM PST by djf
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To: krucz

Bite me, newbie leftie scum.


29 posted on 02/10/2005 12:32:49 AM PST by djf
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To: krucz

Tell us more o sage DUmpster clown...(2/10/05)


30 posted on 02/10/2005 12:35:38 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: ovrtaxt
necessary to ensure expeditious construction of the barriers and roads

The way I read this, the "Waive all laws" ONLY pertains to the building of barriers and roads at the border. The intent would seem to be to get it out of the courts and get'r done.

31 posted on 02/10/2005 12:37:25 AM PST by Flyer (Got Domain? - $8.99 a Year! - https://dahtcom.nameservices.net)
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To: krucz
check out the fruits

Yep, I'm doing that right now.

32 posted on 02/10/2005 12:39:25 AM PST by Flyer (Got Domain? - $8.99 a Year! - https://dahtcom.nameservices.net)
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To: krucz

What's really sad is that there is a Soviet Party in American and a Stupid Globalist Party, neither of which is worth saving...did you run back to the DUmpster?


33 posted on 02/10/2005 12:43:51 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Its like anything, too much of a good thing is bad, just like not enough. Power in and of itself is not a bad thing, but too much power centralized in too few locations is bad. One must always keep in mind that government is a fearful master, and is very much akin to fire.

Consider the plight of the homeowner: in the winter it gets mighty cold and so he brings fire into his house to warm his abode. However, uncontrolled fire in the middle of one's living or family room is downright dangerous (not merely destroying a homeowner's domicile but kill him outright). Therefore the wise homeowner builds a fireplace, to contain the power of the fire, a hearth to distribute the heat of the fire, and a chimney to provide channel the noxious byproducts of fire away from the homeowner.

And so it is with citizenry and its government. Governement exists by the mutual consent of those willing to be governed by it. Congress can make any law it chooses, the Supreme Court is the final arbitrator (from which there is no appeal), whether or not Congress is usurping power not delegated to it by the People (through the Constitution). The executive branch can only carry out the laws that it is delegated to enforce. Congress can make the executive and judicial branches as strong or weak according to its choosing (and at its peril also), within the confines of the document that give it authority to do so. And herein lies the beauty of that: Congress itself serves at the will of the people.

The biggest problem that I see in this regard is that the separate and several sovereign States are substantially weaker because their distinct representation has been abrogated through popular election of the Senate. This was never intended to be the case by the founders. This in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing, if the State's interests with respect to any arbitrary Senator at election time was made clear to the electorate, and were allowed to vigorously campaign for specific Senatorial candidates.

The peoples voice is in the House, the States voice is in the Senate. But the peoples interest lies localy, and within their own district of residence. If the States legislating bodies elect Senators who they feel will promote the State's interests in Congress, then indirectly the people have a voice in the matter by electing to their respective state legislatures candidates whom they believe will send to Washington Senators who ultimately should be looking out for their State's best interests (and indirectly the interests of the State citizenry). As such, the State has a vested interest precisely in those two Senators will be representing the whole state in Congress (and not just pandering to the largest population center in the State).

With respect to legislation, Congress can pass a law in 48 hours if they really wanted to. If there was such an egregious abuse of power by either the judiciary or the executive branch to warrant it, there'd be such a hullaballoo from Congress' constituancy they'd move and they'd move quickly. Because there's nothing that motivates a Congresscritter more than the fear of being voted out of office.

In the grand scheme of things, its just like most parents behave with their children. If the kids act up, the parents instill Draconian measures like stren rebuke, pulling an ear, or hair, inflicting some pain with a slap or spanking, or curtailing of freedom and perhaps outright revokation of things. Over time, and if the children behave, the parents lighten up and the kids may end up with even more freedoms than before. On the other hand, if the kids show they can't be trusted about anything, the parents are going to respond harshly. And so I believe it is with our government. Ultimately, whatever happens is the peoples fault, and the government they get is the one they deserve.

34 posted on 02/10/2005 1:10:15 AM PST by raygun
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To: DoughtyOne

You are correct.


It is always imperative to consider what the opposition will do with a law.

I'm pretty sure that the idea of being allowed to ignore _all_ laws is in and of itself a bad idea whoever is in office.

Traffic violations? Murder? Drug dealing? Child abuse?

In pursuit of officiaol duties only or just in general.

Maybe I haven't had enough caffeine yet, but it sure looks strange.


35 posted on 02/10/2005 3:25:49 AM PST by From many - one. (formerly e p1uribus unum)
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To: djf

True....

And they sure don't want CAIR whining, either.


36 posted on 02/10/2005 5:05:39 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: TomGuy

It took what, a couple thousand years of civilization to come up with the Bill of Rights?

Do we want to give them up now? Just because a bunch of loony diaper-heads are waving a couple SKS's in the air?

I won't.


37 posted on 02/10/2005 5:10:44 AM PST by djf
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To: djf

Yes.

When Congress passed the Telecom bill in the mid-90's, knowing parts were unconstitutional...

When Congress passed CFR and we saw the fiasco with it...

etc....

I get suspiciously nervous whenever Congress is involved in rewriting laws or wanting to change the Constitution.

I don't trust any current politician to be doing anything more than what is self-serving and in their own interest, monetarily. Not a one on Capitol Hill will ever measure up to our Founding Fathers.


38 posted on 02/10/2005 5:27:07 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: Jim Robinson

"Equal and separate powers."

Not even close. The Congress was originally meant to wield more power and responsibility than the other two, and the President more than the courts.

The notion of "coequal" is nonsense.


39 posted on 02/10/2005 5:30:19 AM PST by Veritas et equitas ad Votum (If the Constitution "lives and breathes", it dies.)
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To: TomGuy

"Not a one on Capitol Hill will ever measure up to our Founding Fathers."

I think there is ONE man up there in the entire Congress who still fulfills the duties of his office and respects the Constitutional limitations on the federal government.


40 posted on 02/10/2005 5:36:18 AM PST by Veritas et equitas ad Votum (If the Constitution "lives and breathes", it dies.)
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