Design for Living: The Basis for a Design Theory of Origins

Discovery Institute ^ | February 7, 2005 | Michael Behe

[bondserv]

Still, some critics claim that science by definition can't accept design, while others argue that science should keep looking for another explanation in case one is out there. But we can't settle questions about reality with definitions, nor does it seem useful to search relentlessly for a non-design explanation of Mount Rushmore. Besides, whatever special restrictions scientists adopt for themselves don't bind the public, which polls show, overwhelmingly, and sensibly, thinks that life was designed. And so do many scientists who see roles for both the messiness of evolution and the elegance of design.

[RadioAstronomer]

[Thunderous applause!]

I do a find in forum and read their posts on a few people every day. Ichneumon is one of them. :-)

[PatrickHenry]

Ichneumon is one of them.

You must be one of those Crater-ite "rocks from the sky" cultists.

[RadioAstronomer]

You believe nothing exploded without a cause and made the universe.

Sigh. Spouting the same crap thread after thread. Have you learned nothing from all the myriads of posts to you over these past years?

[RadioAstronomer]

You must be one of those Crater-ite "rocks from the sky" cultists.

Rocks from the sky? You mean very very hard pieces of cheese falling off the moon don't you?

[Dataman]

You believe spontaneous generation.

Grossly inaccurate mischaracterization of abiogenesis. And since the evidence indicates that despite your personal incredulity (and without "magic wands"), that is indeed what actually happened, strike two.

So you admit you believe in spontaneous generation, Mr. Science? {insert guffaws and eye-rolling here) Anyone who cherishes known "old wives' tales" as you do shouldn't pretend to be a representative of science.

Your post is a keeper. It may come in handy in the future.

[RadioAstronomer]

we conclude that in fact goddidit.

ROTFLMAO!

[PatrickHenry]

... pieces of cheese falling off the moon ...

Typical trollish behavior. Just like a Crater-ite swine. Make a joke when you're trapped by the facts!

What you Rocks-from-the-Sky cultists fail to admit is that your "theory" was proposed and refined right before the 20th century, the most bloody century in mankind. Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot were all Crater-ites. Marx could have never have written Das Kapital if he didnt believe that large rocks fell from the sky.

If you cultists can get people to start believing that rocks fall from the sky, then life has no meaning. Why shouldn't we all run around raping and killing each other? Where will it all end?

[Dataman]

Sigh. Spouting the same crap thread after thread.

Is that your best shot at refutation? I thought so.

[longshadow]

If you cultists can get people to start believing that rocks fall from the sky, then life has no meaning. Why shouldn't we all run around raping and killing each other? Where will it all end?

What's next; the evils of electricity?

;-)

[js1138]

;-)

[PatrickHenry]

What's next; the evils of electricity?

Scoff if you like, Crater-ite dog! Why do you fear the truth? Afraid they'll cut off your government grants?

Face the facts! A so-called meteor crater is irreducibly complex. You have the central depression, the outer ridges, the rim, the debris field, the errosion ... how could all of these features have flown together by purely random events? The odds against that are at least 1⁷²⁰ to one. If ever there was an undeniable example of design, right in front of our faces, the so-called "meteor" crater is it.

What we have here is an unwitnessed event, one which can't be reproduced in the lab (except as absurdly unpersuasive micro-impacts), an event comprised of numerous features which can't be explained by themselves, but only as part of an integrated whole, an event which can't be dated due to the unreliability of radiometric dating techniques, an event which thus far has received only Godless, naturalistic "explanations" in the form of rocks randomly falling from the sky, an event which -- even if it happened as long ago as the naturalist scientists claim -- can't be verified due to their ignorance of conditions so long ago, an event which seems to defy the odds by its very uniqueness, an event which mimics the shape of recently-observed crop circles, and this is the event which the Godless naturalistic scientists want to teach to the children as a purely natural event.

[Michael_Michaelangelo]

[BMCDA]

What's next; the evils of electricity?

You may be on to something there:

"Communism is Soviet power plus the electrification of the whole country." Lenin

Now, there you have it. Electricity is a communist plot.

[PatrickHenry]

Electricity is a communist plot.

I know you jest, but Craterism is a communist plot! Think about it. If you are told since childhood that rocks fall from the sky, and at any moment your existence can be snuffed out by a random rock, then life has no meaning. Why study, why save, why work, why worry about morality, why care about the future? Just let the government handle things, while you lie back in a drug-induced stupor, engaged in animalistic fornication.

The evil of Craterism serves those who would be your masters. Wake up!!

[itsahoot]

One must assume that Missler is ignorant of science and its history.

One who would, would be mistaken. Do a little research on the guy.

[Ichneumon]

which thus far has received only Godless, naturalistic "explanations" in the form of rocks randomly falling from the sky, an event which -- even if it happened as long ago as the naturalist scientists claim -- can't be verified due to their ignorance of conditions so long ago,

...and besides, No One Was There To See It Happen, So There (tm).

LOL -- great job.

[PatrickHenry]

I shall not rest until the evil of Craterism is expunged from our schools.

The Founders of this great country did not believe in the blasphemy of Craterism. They had hope for the future. They built this nation as a Shining City on a Hill, as an example to all mankind. And now the Craterites, these Rocks-from-the-Sky cultists, claim that some random rock will drop down from the sky to flatten the glorious work of the Founders. What un-American nonsense these Craterites preach!

[longshadow]

....while you lie back in a drug-induced stupor, engaged in animalistic fornication.

Believing that meteors create craters leads to "animalisitic fornication"?

I've got to get me more of those meteors!

[PatrickHenry]

Believing that meteors create craters leads to "animalisitic fornication"? I've got to get me more of those meteors!

Classic Craterite cultist attitude. Do you think your schemes are unknown to us? Do you imagine we are unaware of how you whisper to our daughters: "Why preserve your chastity, young maiden, when at any moment a rock may fall upon us from the sky."

We are aware that your materialistic Craterism is leading our women astray, by robbing them of all hope of the future, of any reason to plan for the next generation. You are destroying the most basic foundation of our society with your Rocks-from-the-Sky blasphemy! And all this, all these lies, merely to satisfy your animalistic lust. Have you no shame?

[DoctorMichael]

Design?