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To: kimber

I don't mean to start a fight. But I am afraid that the national ID will be our federal government's answer to the illegal alien issue.

People have been screaming on FR for God knows how long now for the Feds to do something and now they are reacting like the bureaucrats they are. Hope you all are happy.

flame away, but we brought it on ourselves to a certain extent.


22 posted on 02/09/2005 12:07:47 PM PST by MikefromOhio (An isolationist America will not ensure our safety.)
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To: MikeinIraq

Yep.


26 posted on 02/09/2005 12:15:25 PM PST by Flyer (Got Domain? - $8.99 a Year! - https://dahtcom.nameservices.net)
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To: MikeinIraq

I agree with you for the most part.....I see both sides of the issue and am open to suggentions but I would think our security if the most important......I'm not so fearful of a nat'l id card per se.....these guys can come get you anytime they want in the night and no one will be the wiser..but if it will help with security and illegal immigration, then I would be reluctantly for it....otherwise, like we say to the Dems all the time, let's hear your ideas


33 posted on 02/09/2005 12:29:48 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: MikeinIraq

Mike, sorry but I see your response something like this.

We complain because folks are running red lights and killing people, so the government reacts by taking our cars away.

No, we want stiff penalties on the offenders, so it will stop.

With regard to the border it's the same premise. We didn't bring this on ourselves. The government refused to stop illegal immigration. You just watch. There will still be illegal immigration after all is said and done, but the citizens of this nation will for all intents and purposes be plugged in 24/7 so the government will know every thing we do.

We either accept this, or we put the government on notice, that this s--t is going to stop. We have reached our limit with the level of intrusion that we will accept.


53 posted on 02/09/2005 2:05:44 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: MikeinIraq; Dan from Michigan; Dog Gone; Howlin; farmfriend
"I don't mean to start a fight. But I am afraid that the national ID will be our federal government's answer to the illegal alien issue."

The current "Real ID" legislation *requires* that you have your National ID card prior to applying for any new job.

This means that *millions* of citizens are about to be required to go stand in lines that will make Driver's License cues look short in comparison before anyone can get a new job.

Politicians who vote for this bill haven't thought this thing through; no one wants to feel the ire of millions of potential job seekers, especially those rural red state workers who would not only have to stand in long lines, but also make a special drive into the city to get their new ID card.

56 posted on 02/09/2005 2:34:09 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: MikeinIraq

Well Its not out fault. I and sdeveral others here have been calling for MILITARIZING THE BORDER. Not this ID crap.


70 posted on 02/09/2005 8:41:14 PM PST by Paul_Denton (The UN is UN-American! Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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